Tam warns that full vaccination does not equal full protection from COVID-19

[Jenesis]

You need to take accountability for what you convey, don't blame him. He isn't slandering or attacking anyone personally on here...that's his own agenda. I don't necessarily agree with what he says but at the same time I don't feel the need to attack people on here in terms of what they believe it.

Bottom line is look one should look in the mirror and shouldn't blame others for how they conduct themselves.

Well if that is the opinion you want to take then you are acting as a hypocrite because you are not allowing me to express my opinion about him.

See how that works?!?! LOL

I stand by what I have said. I think his repeated attempts to spread misinformation is disgusting. I think he is a fowl person for what he says. He compared COVID measures to nazi Germany. He is fucked in my opinion and I say so. He can call me a bitch, a cunt, a fat cow if he like. I don’t care. And he attacks the entire pandemic with his post and bullshit about it. He attacks the entire system and if people listen to him they actually could die. Just sayin’.

My opinion stands. I take full responsibility for my post.

Anything else?

PS - I think Trump is fucked too. As well as Pedofiles who’s opinions are they should be able to have sex with children. Sometimes a negative opinion is justified. But again, feel free to agree to disagree. LOL

 

[TorontoPlayer88]

Well if that is the opinion you want to take then you are acting as a hypocrite because you are not allowing me to express my opinion about him.

See how that works?!?! LOL

I stand by what I have said. I think his repeated attempts to spread misinformation is disgusting. I think he is a fowl person for what he says. He compared COVID measures to nazi Germany. He is fucked in my opinion and I say so. He can call me a bitch, a cunt, a fat cow if he like. I don’t care. And he attacks the entire pandemic with his post and bullshit about it. He attacks the entire system and if people listen to him they actually could die. Just sayin’.

My opinion stands. I take full responsibility for my post.

Anything else?

Calling someone "fucked" and "beyond fucked" is ok with you? I didn't say anything about not being able to share your opinion btw. Just don't blame your abusive language on someone else, we're not in elementary school.

 

[Jenesis]

Calling someone "fucked" and "beyond fucked" is ok with you? I didn't say anything about not being able to share your opinion btw. Just don't blame your abusive language on someone else, we're not in elementary school.

When did I blame someone else? Please point that out and I will apologize straight out but I think I am quite clear that I am totally fine with my opinion that I have shared.

Yes - based on all his posts, the fact that I don’t believe he suffers from any major mental health issue and is spewing the dangerous shit he is - he is fucked. Beyond fucked, as I have said. That is my opinion.

So again, anything else?

PS - he does insult others as well so be sure to be fair and scold him too ok teacher? Thanks. LMAO

 

[lenny2]

He isn't slandering or attacking anyone personally on here...that's his own agenda.

He refers to others paranoia & fear mongering.

 

[Jenesis]

He refers to others paranoia & fear mongering.

Exactly. Says others have reading comprehension issues that I just read today, and I would have to go back and pull threads but he has said many things to many people.

TorontoPlayer doesn’t come down on him. TP doesn’t come down on @squeezer who says far more shit then I have about CM. Love Ya squeezer! LOL.

I think TP may Be sexist since he is only coming down on a woman and not his fellow man. But that is just a maybe. Wouldn’t want to scolded again for “name-calling”

 

[canada-man]

You’re fucked. Like beyond fucked. I seriously can not believe there are people like you who actually think like you, in this world.

You truly make me sick with some of the nasty shit that you post.

It is SCIENCE. S-C-I-E-N-C-E. How can you, someone who probably barely passed grade 10 science, how can you say it is base off lies and fear and not actual scientific data? How can you possibly say that with any factual back up to your claim? Not some quote from some fringe new site. I’m talking about you, with no scientific background or degree to stand on? You can’t. So just shut up already.




I’m honestly sick of his shit. He is fowl and disgusting. One of the lowest forms of humanity we have on this earth.

Insults and name calling means you already lost the debate

 

[lenny2]

Insults and name calling means you already lost the debate

That's a logically unsound statement.

Surely you don't even need a course in 1st year university Philosophy (with a strong emphasis on logic) to understand that.

 

[Jenesis]

Insults and name calling means you already lost the debate

LMAO. I didn’t lose shit. I finished bothering with you. There is a difference.

You have lost it buddy. You lost it a year ago when you started with your shit. I have tried on plenty of occasions to rationally debate with you. I am done debating, hence why I ended it and gave my final observation. You are fucked.

 

[lenny2]

Insults and name calling means you already lost the debate

Yawn NOBODY cares about your paranoa

Is someone calling someone else paranoid? Is that name calling?

 

[Jenesis]

Is someone calling someone else paranoid? Is that name calling?

paranoia is an actual mental health condition so really he is making fun of those with mental illness.

 

[Valcazar]

That's a logically unsound statement.

Surely you don't even need a course in 1st year university Philosophy (with a strong emphasis on logic) to understand that.

It's a logically ridiculous statement, but it is the mantra of the "internet debater" (and also trolls). It's become very popular offline as well, as seen by people who think Ben Shapiro is a great debater.

 

[Jenesis]

Be careful guys. TorontoPlayer may come in and scold you. LMAO

 

[shack]

I'm getting tired of the constant fear mongering, and Tam isn't making the situation better.

When I hear that a vaccine is 94% effective and then Tam says that full vaccination does not mean full protection, then to me both statements are saying the same thing.

Any rational person understands that 94% effective does not mean 100% effective. There is no fear mongering except for people like c-m telling us that a vaccine that has side effects which present (verb t.) at a rate 1/1000 or less than that of getting seriously ill from covid is more dangerous than covid.

 

[NotADcotor]

Calling someone "fucked" and "beyond fucked" is ok with you? I didn't say anything about not being able to share your opinion btw. Just don't blame your abusive language on someone else, we're not in elementary school.

What if someone is fucked and beyond fucked. When the stuff they say is so beyond reasonable that you really can't tell if they are serious or just trolling.
I think it is perfectly reasonable for someone to not want to associate with a person who is a reality denier, even if the reality denying isn't a hate crime.
The earth isn't flat
Vaccines work and save lives
Anecdotal evidence could provide an path for research it isn't evidence.
Logistics are very important
Justin Beiber is history's greatest monster.
Seat belts save lives
Kate Micucci is the hottest chick on the planet

I also think it is perfectly reasonable to not want to socialize or associate with someone who just won't fucking listen. Like recently this guy keeps bringing up a study claiming that 1 dose doesn't provide much protection. Multiple people have pointed out that the study wasn't designed to look into that, that tthe one dose people got the second dose on time, so it really didn't look at people with 1 dose 3+ weeks out but only during the ramp up period where the vaccine won't be very effective. It was also pointed out that the abstract of the article made no mention of this finding [it's in the supplementary section] for that reason. He never once addressed these concerns and keeps bringing it up over and over. Much like the Canadamans and the TeeJays, the Big Sleazies etc.
They say shit, it's clearly debunked and they keep bringing it up.
I am not even talking about a difference of opinion here, that's fine. It's a willful ignoring of reality.

Like CM's I am not going to live in fear mantra. That's gotta be designed to annoy.

 

[shack]

everyone is entitled to their own opinion as we all share different views.

It's not opinion. It's bald faced lying contrary to scientific fact.

If you say "I really liked that movie", even if all the critics panned it, that is opinion.

If you tell your 5 year old child that the earth is flat, that is lying.

c-m is lying for an agenda. It is lying propaganda.

 

[NotADcotor]

LMAO. I didn’t lose shit. I finished bothering with you. There is a difference.

You have lost it buddy. You lost it a year ago when you started with your shit. I have tried on plenty of occasions to rationally debate with you. I am done debating, hence why I ended it and gave my final observation. You are fucked.

Have you tried ignoring him. It isn't as if he contributes much of value and his signal to noise ratio is really bad.
I've put him and others on ignore and it has embiggined the cromulance of this forum greatly.
My hair is growing back, I've gained 10 pounds of muscle, my hard ons have never been better. Even getting better gas milage and saved 20% on my car insurance. I can highly recommend it.

I do always fear that one of the people I ignore might start a review thread or other useful hobby thread but oddly that almost never happens. Weird that.

 

[Jenesis]

Have you tried ignoring him. It isn't as if he contributes much of value and his signal to noise ratio is really bad.
I've put him and others on ignore and it has embiggined the cromulance of this forum greatly.
My hair is growing back, I've gained 10 pounds of muscle, my hard ons have never been better. Even getting better gas milage and saved 20% on my car insurance. I can highly recommend it.

I do always fear that one of the people I ignore might start a review thread or other useful hobby thread but oddly that almost never happens. Weird that.

Ya I have done that as well. Put him on ignore. However he starts thread With relative news articles sometimes and I found I was missing out on those threads. Now granted he uses those article to denounce them but I appreciate the comments of others and with the ignore system the way it, I don’t even see the thread. Unless I have caught it just in time to be on the front page for a reply that came from a non ignored member.

 

[Jenesis]

What if someone is fucked and beyond fucked. When the stuff they say is so beyond reasonable that you really can't tell if they are serious or just trolling.
I think it is perfectly reasonable for someone to not want to associate with a person who is a reality denier, even if the reality denying isn't a hate crime.
The earth isn't flat
Vaccines work and save lives
Anecdotal evidence could provide an path for research it isn't evidence.
Logistics are very important
Justin Beiber is history's greatest monster.
Seat belts save lives
Kate Micucci is the hottest chick on the planet

I also think it is perfectly reasonable to not want to socialize or associate with someone who just won't fucking listen. Like recently this guy keeps bringing up a study claiming that 1 dose doesn't provide much protection. Multiple people have pointed out that the study wasn't designed to look into that, that tthe one dose people got the second dose on time, so it really didn't look at people with 1 dose 3+ weeks out but only during the ramp up period where the vaccine won't be very effective. It was also pointed out that the abstract of the article made no mention of this finding [it's in the supplementary section] for that reason. He never once addressed these concerns and keeps bringing it up over and over. Much like the Canadamans and the TeeJays, the Big Sleazies etc.
They say shit, it's clearly debunked and they keep bringing it up.
I am not even talking about a difference of opinion here, that's fine. It's a willful ignoring of reality.

Like CM's I am not going to live in fear mantra. That's gotta be designed to annoy.

Exactly. Being fucked just means you are talking shit. You are wrong. You are not making any sense. You are not facing evidence, you are not facing reality. You are acting in a way that can be seriously harmful to others.

If you are fucked it beyond fucked - then that is simply what it is.

Now if he has/had a mental illness that makes this so - I would not have said anything. I wouldn’t engage him at all except to repeatedly ask for him to get help for himself. But that is not the case here. Not in my opinion and as always and as proven time and time again, if I am wrong, I will say I’m wrong and apologize for it. Never been a problem for me before. Won’t be a problem for the thousand times I will be wrong between now and when I die. LOL

 

[squeezer]

everyone is entitled to their own opinion as we all share different views. If this is how you convey your message to someone that you disagree with you should consider learning learning how to articulate your point/views in a more constructive format.

Hmmmmmm, interesting post

 

[IM469]

Tam warns that full vaccination does not equal full protection from COVID-19 (msn.com)

covid science is based on lies and fear

Tam should realize that any statement that even states that 99.9% is not 100% will be seized on by the scientific illiterate as a reason to ignore the whole procedure.

Obviously that first person that falls into the 0.1% (which could be a number of people when multiplied by millions) will be hoisted on 'the why bother ?'' platform. It is no different that taking a person who died in a car crash and suggesting - well seat beats didn't help him, obviously putting brakes in cars didn't help him, headlights , safety checks, etc, etc ... didn't help him. It is lunacy, very sad and from a rational perspective would be humorous if it didn't promote dangerous behavior in the gullible.