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Chauvin guilty but whats changed? What now?

wazup

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Holy shit. I don't know where to even begin unpacking this steaming pile of racist garbage.
That's the only rebuttal you have is the race card nonsense. Don't like what someone has to say, call them a racist. Why don't you disprove what I said?
 

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Are you blaming everyone?? 😆
Finger pointers gotta point somewhere...

Derek's in administrative segregation (solitary) for his own safety (DUH). Better mount a suicide watch as well...
 
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Darts

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Lesson learned.

Next time, FIDO! When asked later what happened? Sorry chief, I missed that intersection. Life is too short for that shit.
 

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Finger pointers gotta point somewhere...

Derek's in administrative segregation (solitary) for his own safety (DUH). Better mount a suicide watch as well...
Couldn't help but notice the lack of a reaction from him as the judge read three guilty sentences in a row? If I wanted to let my imagination run wild he looked like there was some kind of reprieve from the darkest outcome he would be fearing. Perhaps he was promised out in ten and the prison version of the Holiday INN not so bad if you are in his shoes. I guess we will have to wait and see I can't imagine this is the end of it.

LJ
 

Robert Mugabe

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Where do we go from here? This is some level of victory for society but even since this crime happened it has happened again?

Do you think this verdict will change police behavior?

Do you think this will embolden criminal behavior?

Do you think there will be a revamp of North American training standards for police?

Do police get the kind of pertinent necessary training "now" to deal with the world they work in?

Do police have to recertify their training as you do for other employment competencies?

Why didn't the other attending officers at the scene of this murder get charged with accessory???

LJ
Cops are cops. Us against them mentality, with an extra serving of "Obey". I don't know if it is still in place, but a few years ago the Toronto cops introduced Gold/Silver/Bronze wind shield stickers, based on contribution level, for people who donated cash to the police. So if you got pulled over I guess you could point to the sticker on your windshield in the assumption you would get preferential treatment. Nothing corrupt about that really. Or the mentality that instigated it.
 

Robert Mugabe

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Couldn't help but notice the lack of a reaction from him as the judge read three guilty sentences in a row? If I wanted to let my imagination run wild he looked like there was some kind of reprieve from the darkest outcome he would be fearing. Perhaps he was promised out in ten and the prison version of the Holiday INN not so bad if you are in his shoes. I guess we will have to wait and see I can't imagine this is the end of it.

LJ
Too bad he was wearing a mask. Though doubtful his facial expression would have revealed much. His head was bobbing to one and all as he was dismissed and led away, like a meek little lamb.
 

angrymime666

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it’s too easy for the poor to blame the rich but also too easy for rich to dismiss the poor as simply not working hard enough, when they themselves have had so many advantages.
like everything its not so cut and dry.

while the rich do have the advantage of money and greater options they achieved this through the choices they made. the poor have less money and options. they made poor choices which lead to their poverty and lack of choices. a poor person can work 120hrs a week and be very financially stable. however, if they have several kids(which is a choice) they are considered poor from a household earning point.

a large percentage of those who are rich did not inherit their riches. mostly earning over time and amassing assets during that period.

its all about choices. some people make good choices and some bad.
 

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it’s too easy for the poor to blame the rich but also too easy for rich to dismiss the poor as simply not working hard enough, when they themselves have had so many advantages.
With all due respect; are you not seeing what is happening?. It's not rich or poor this or that. The BLM, Antifa and other extremists are being financed by the biggest corporations, they have the support of the Democrat elites and the costal millionaires who would never even dream of putting their kids in the public schools or live anywhere close to the poor neighborhoods. They even call for the abolishment of the police while paying for private security to protect them. This is being led and fuelled by the "radical chic".
 
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Male4Strapon

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like everything its not so cut and dry.

while the rich do have the advantage of money and greater options they achieved this through the choices they made. the poor have less money and options. they made poor choices which lead to their poverty and lack of choices. a poor person can work 120hrs a week and be very financially stable. however, if they have several kids(which is a choice) they are considered poor from a household earning point.

a large percentage of those who are rich did not inherit their riches. mostly earning over time and amassing assets during that period.

its all about choices. some people make good choices and some bad.
I dont disagree but I am talking about the many poor who never had a shot because of the decisions of their parents and the rich who were put into situations because of theirs.

I don’t want to hijack this thread but it could be as simple as this - my wife and I are in position to ensure our kid has enough money for university without taking any loans and barring disaster, when we die, she will have a good inheritance. We’re not rich by any means but she has the luck of being born to us. And part of what allows us to provide this for her is the luck we had being born to our parents who ensured we were provided for and inheritances were there for their children.

Now think of a kid born into a poor family. Through no fault of his own he doesn’t have any of these advantages, is often pressured to provide for his family so he can’t build up his own savings. He has to get student loans and if his parents are renting, he likely inherits nothing. Even if he is a great student, works his ass off and makes all the right decisions, he is still always playing catch-up.

my point is that rich people don’t hold poor down and it’s too easy to say the poor need to work harder to get out of their financial troubles.
I am not saying it has anything to do with Chauvin and Floyd, I was just responding to a post saying people will blame the rich .
 
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Male4Strapon

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With all due respect; are you not seeing what is happening?. It's not rich or poor this or that. The BLM, Antifa and other extremists are being financed by the biggest corporations, they have the support of the Democrat elites and the costal millionaires who would never even dream of putting their kids in the public schools or live anywhere close to the poor neighborhoods. They even call for the abolishment of the police while paying for private security to protect them. This is being led and fuelled by the "radical chic".
I see that and completely agree. It’s disgraceful but if the head of the cancer charity was skimming from donations, you wouldn’t abolish the charity, you would fire that person.
I support the goals of BLM but there is something in inherently wrong about the display of wealth from leadership rather than that money being funneled down to help its constituents.
 
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Darts

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The next Chauvin will simply say FIDO and say he had a flat on his way to the scene. Life is too short for this shit. All this debacle over a fake $20.

Don't tell anybody but Wal-Mart in Canada has a no cop policy if the value of the shoplifted item(s) is less than $25.
 

mandrill

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The next Chauvin will simply say FIDO and say he had a flat on his way to the scene. Life is too short for this shit. All this debacle over a fake $20.

Don't tell anybody but Wal-Mart in Canada has a no cop policy if the value of the shoplifted item(s) is less than $25.
Yep. That'll teach those uppity Blacks and spoiled woketards to complain the next time the cops kill one of them. The cops just won't show up to the next bank robbery, rape or domestic assault. Perfectly fair and reasonable - in Darts-land.
 
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With all due respect; are you not seeing what is happening?. It's not rich or poor this or that. The BLM, Antifa and other extremists are being financed by the biggest corporations, they have the support of the Democrat elites and the costal millionaires who would never even dream of putting their kids in the public schools or live anywhere close to the poor neighborhoods. They even call for the abolishment of the police while paying for private security to protect them. This is being led and fuelled by the "radical chic".
Nonsense.

The people who support BLM cut across all social and economic levels and categories. You're just mining that old rant from the 60's desegregation struggle where the righties laughed that "JFK didn't have to live in a neighbourhood with Coloureds because he had his Hyannisport estate."

It wasn't accurate then and it's even less accurate now. There's no "conspiracy of multi billionaire woketards" to sell out the common guy. BLM is a mass movement.

And since when do multi billionaires and corporations support antifa?! Surely that's the last thing they'd do!
 
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like everything its not so cut and dry.

while the rich do have the advantage of money and greater options they achieved this through the choices they made. the poor have less money and options. they made poor choices which lead to their poverty and lack of choices. a poor person can work 120hrs a week and be very financially stable. however, if they have several kids(which is a choice) they are considered poor from a household earning point.

a large percentage of those who are rich did not inherit their riches. mostly earning over time and amassing assets during that period.

its all about choices. some people make good choices and some bad.
#lol from MEMES
 
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Darts

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Yep. That'll teach those uppity Blacks and spoiled woketards to complain the next time the cops kill one of them. The cops just won't show up to the next bank robbery, rape or domestic assault. Perfectly fair and reasonable - in Darts-land.
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angrymime666

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I agree that someone with wealth will have more opportunities; however, people who have disadvantages can change their lives despite being dealt certain cards. I have seen it many times in many different scenarios where people have overcome. granted its not everyone, nor could I guess a percentage of those who overcome what they have been dealt.

not all people who work hard will achieve wealth. it requires so much more than just working hard. being financially intelligent, living below your means, not living in excess, making responsible choices, getting married before you have kids, picking a suitable partner, having a business plan, etc.

the pareto distribution illustrates this point. there will always be inequity among humans. there will always be the poor(unless its star trek), the middle class, wealthy and everything in between.

wealth distribution has also changed over history as it was held by less people in the world. now its distributed over more people.
 

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That's the only rebuttal you have is the race card nonsense. Don't like what someone has to say, call them a racist. Why don't you disprove what I said?
There is no need to further prove you have clear racial biases. You've already done the work.

Sure the term racist gets thrown around a lot but there are still plenty of people t fits.
 

basketcase

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Lesson learned.

Next time, FIDO! When asked later what happened? Sorry chief, I missed that intersection. Life is too short for that shit.
Of course that's the lesson you would take from this. How about doing the job without kneeling on a guy until long after he stops breathing?
 
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With all due respect; are you not seeing what is happening?. It's not rich or poor this or that. The BLM, Antifa and other extremists are being financed by the biggest corporations, they have the support of the Democrat elites and the costal millionaires who would never even dream of putting their kids in the public schools or live anywhere close to the poor neighborhoods. They even call for the abolishment of the police while paying for private security to protect them. This is being led and fuelled by the "radical chic".
Alex Jones? Is that you?
 

basketcase

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I agree that someone with wealth will have more opportunities; however, people who have disadvantages can change their lives despite being dealt certain cards. I have seen it many times in many different scenarios where people have overcome. granted its not everyone, nor could I guess a percentage of those who overcome what they have been dealt.
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Money in the family does give a huge safety factor. I casually know a couple people in their late 30's who are still living on and freely spending parents money. Meanwhile for racialized poor people, they have very little room for error (or even bad luck).
 
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