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Valcazar

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IIRC the classic case is the bubonic plage, which spread very effectively, but also killed itself out of existence in Europe in only 2 years.
The bubonic plague had a reservoir of rats, it lasted for hundreds of years. It's still around.
 

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I love this thinking :). Compensated by whom??? By us? The taxpayers. No, thank you, we have paid too much already.
They are being put through yoyo shutdowns because of the pressure from the righties on re-opening has been intense on Dofo. The restaurants restock, re-hire, spend money to reopen to be shut down in the blink of an eye. We should have had a 3-week complete lockdown with massive enforcement but the provincial government hasn't had the political balls to do it. I can't say I blame Doug, unlike the righties who jump over Justin over ridiculous things, I understand Doug is walking a tight rope and it's obvious he's trying to do the best he can so I'll cut him some slack. All of North America and every well-to-do country has run up massive debt due to COVID. Everyone is basically printing money. Restaurants and some other small businesses deserve a helping hand to see if they can make it through the vaccination campaign.
 
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Valcazar

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They are being put through yoyo shutdowns because of the pressure from the righties on re-opening has been intense on Dofo. The restaurants restock, re-hire, spend money to reopen to be shut down in the blink of an eye. We should have had a 3-week complete lockdown with massive enforcement but the provincial government hasn't had the political balls to do it. I can't say I blame Doug, unlike the righties who jump over Justin over ridiculous things, I understand Doug is walking a tight rope and it's obvious he's trying to do the best he can so I'll cut him some slack. All of North America and every well-to-do country has run up massive debt due to COVID. Everyone is basically printing money. Restaurants and some other small businesses deserve a helping hand to see if they can make it through the vaccination campaign.
That's been the problem throughout, both here and the US. No one wants to take the political hit for a real lockdown so they do shitty half measures and ease them up too quickly.
 
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The bubonic plague had a reservoir of rats, it lasted for hundreds of years. It's still around.
It staged comebacks throughout the pre antibiotic era. The "Great Plague of London" in 1665 (?) was one of them.

There was a backpackers travel show about 30 years ago called Lonely Planet where the traveller dude went to Mongolia of all places. Now there isn't a lot to do in Mongolia - Only 1 city, too arrid and cold for agriculture, sparsely populated. So he found a random local and went marmot hunting. The marmot was found, shot and thrown in a cooking pot. Didn't look that appetizing, but they were obviously challenged for interesting and colourful local experiences to film. Traveller then relates that he found out afterwards that the marmot is a notorious carrier of bubonic plague......

IIRC marmots were the cause of the mini outbreak about a year ago. Fucking marmots!
 

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Several Doctors who are on the Health table have appeared on CTV, CBC, and everyone favorite fake news channel CP24 and stated our vacination strategy is incorrect. When will Ford grow some balls and fire Williams?
When will Tory and Trudeau grow some balls and fire Devilla and Tam?
 

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IIRC marmots were the cause of the mini outbreak about a year ago. Fucking marmots!
There's actually an argument that marmots may have brought a wave of bubonic plague in the 1200s before the famous outbreak in the 1300s. Some recent research indicating a sizable outbreak that wasn't recorded as such because it was in the more sparsely populated areas and probably acted as the seed for the major outbreak that happens later. There are descriptions of the Siege of Baghdad in the 1250s that seem to have the plague hitting it. You've got contact with the plague-infected marmot area of Mongolia, you've got some major outbreaks. Then a couple of generations later you get the big explosion.
 
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Valcazar

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Found it.
 
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Just stating the obvious. Closing of mass transportation should be number one priority on the list of measures to combat any pandemic.
Based on what evidence?

But fine, as long as the big box stores and patios stay open.
 

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I believe that one can achieve herd immunity with far less than 100% vaccination. The virus simply dwindles and fades out if its opportunities to continue to spread are curtailed at even the 70% level.
Depends on the R0 value of the virus and the efficacy of the vaccines/immunity acquired through infection. The predictions seem to average around 70% but estimates run from mid 50s to mid 80s.
 

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Only one problem. This virus is mutating to be more virulent, not less. The figure of 70% applies to a normal virus which when it mutates becomes less aggressive. This one becomes more aggressive.
Covid is seeming to follow the history of other major pandemics. The 1918 flu was most deadly during its second wave.
 

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Based on what evidence?

But fine, as long as the big box stores and patios stay open.
Common sense, lots of people in confined small space , touching same parts to steady themselves. If there is a breeding ground for a virus, it's the subway, street car or a bus.

BTW: What evidence is there to close down barber shops. There must be some strong evidence because they were ones of the first to be closed and are still shot down.
 
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