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DoFo says another lockdown 'on the 'table'

TeeJay

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ICUs are not being overloaded there are over 2000 icu rooms

turn off your tv.
Covid Round Table yesterday made (another) baseless prediction that 800 people will be in ICU by months end (April)

Seeing as they have NEVER been close to correct yet care to wager they are wrong again?

And this is AFTER we discovered they have falsely inflated ICU occupancy as we speak (+27 counting people who are testing NEGATIVE for Covid so current "record high" is also #FakeNews)
 

doggystyle99

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ON inoculated over 3 million people (out of a population of 15 million... this must be a province of dinosaurs lol)
ON reserved vaccine for old people and at risk communities first

Old people do not protest, usually wear masks, shop at separate hours from young people, and generally stay home

So assuming any of the nonsense you spout is vaguely true why exactly is Ford peeing his pants again?
More TeeJay facts.

Every time you post there is something new that you need to be thought.

in·oc·u·late

treat (a person or animal) with a vaccine to produce immunity against a disease.
"he inoculated his tenants against smallpox"

Don't confuse yourself with the numbers of vaccines doses given and the number of people who are inoculated, they are two different things in this case.
 
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I believe that one can achieve herd immunity with far less than 100% vaccination. The virus simply dwindles and fades out if its opportunities to continue to spread are curtailed at even the 70% level.
Only one problem. This virus is mutating to be more virulent, not less. The figure of 70% applies to a normal virus which when it mutates becomes less aggressive. This one becomes more aggressive.
 

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I actually agree restaurants should be compensated for stock and other opening expenses due to the unforeseeable hardships through no fault of their own. As I've mentioned before I do feel very bad for small business folks but I also blame folks with your bent pandemic thinking prolonging lockdowns by fighting regulations and assisting with some of the spread.
I love this thinking :). Compensated by whom??? By us? The taxpayers. No, thank you, we have paid too much already.
 

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The huge problem I see coming is that if 30 percent of people refuse to be vaccinated, this plague will never end.

We will continually be locking down because there will be no shortage of hosts for this virus and the ICUs will forever be overloaded.

They are going to have to enact legislation to FORCE people to be vaccinated.
And why we should lock down? After all willing people get the vaccine, why should we still be in lock down? If someone refuses to get vaccine, it is on them and, eventually, either most of them get immunity after a short period of illness or will never get a virus. Either way the heard immunity will be reached.
 

Valcazar

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I believe that one can achieve herd immunity with far less than 100% vaccination. The virus simply dwindles and fades out if its opportunities to continue to spread are curtailed at even the 70% level.
The basic rule is herd immunity happens at 1- 1/R0
That means for herd immunity to work with only 70% of the population vaccinated the R0 would have to be 3 or less. (a bit higher actually). If I recall, most indications were that it was somewhere around 2/2.5 so 70% should work.
 
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mandrill

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Only one problem. This virus is mutating to be more virulent, not less. The figure of 70% applies to a normal virus which when it mutates becomes less aggressive. This one becomes more aggressive.
They normally become more contagious and less lethal. An unsuccessful virus is one that kills its hosts and does not transmit easily.
 
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More TeeJay facts.

Every time you post there is something new that you need to be thought.

in·oc·u·late

treat (a person or animal) with a vaccine to produce immunity against a disease.
"he inoculated his tenants against smallpox"

Don't confuse yourself with the numbers of vaccines doses given and the number of people who are inoculated, they are two different things in this case.
They have given 1st doses to 3+ million
That is what is on their own webpage lol

Your english is also incorrect
Vaccinate is the most narrow definition
Inoculate INCLUDES vaccinate

(so it is possible a person inoculated has not been vaccinated, every person who has been vaccinated has been inoculated)

Since I know you always try and fob off facts that you do not understand:

 

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Several Doctors who are on the Health table have appeared on CTV, CBC, and everyone favorite fake news channel CP24 and stated our vacination strategy is incorrect. When will Ford grow some balls and fire Williams?
 

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There are lawsuit against Federal and provincial govts regarding interval between vaccine. 4 months interval is something Canada does only. The effectiveness of vaccine will dissipate fast with people with low immune system.
 

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They have given 1st doses to 3+ million
That is what is on their own webpage lol

Your english is also incorrect
Vaccinate is the most narrow definition
Inoculate INCLUDES vaccinate

(so it is possible a person inoculated has not been vaccinated, every person who has been vaccinated has been inoculated)

Since I know you always try and fob off facts that you do not understand:

More bullshit from TJ
Ontario website says total doses administered 2,276,313.
Far cry from 3+ million
 
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Valcazar

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They normally become more contagious and less lethal. An unsuccessful virus is one that kills its hosts and does not transmit easily.
It's more complicated than that, of course, but as a rule of thumb that's right. The issue is that with a virus that transmits well while asymptomatic there is much less pressure to become less lethal. If it can spread well and then kills you on the back end, it has no pressure to stop doing that. It is only if it kills you before it can spread that it fucks itself.

There are lawsuit against Federal and provincial govts regarding interval between vaccine. 4 months interval is something Canada does only. The effectiveness of vaccine will dissipate fast with people with low immune system.
We really don't know. No one has data on this.
 

mandrill

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There are lawsuit against Federal and provincial govts regarding interval between vaccine. 4 months interval is something Canada does only. The effectiveness of vaccine will dissipate fast with people with low immune system.
the lawsuit will go nowhere. No judge is going to whack the government for not providing vaccines that it doesn't have.
 

mandrill

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It's more complicated than that, of course, but as a rule of thumb that's right. The issue is that with a virus that transmits well while asymptomatic there is much less pressure to become less lethal. If it can spread well and then kills you on the back end, it has no pressure to stop doing that. It is only if it kills you before it can spread that it fucks itself.
IIRC the classic case is the bubonic plage, which spread very effectively, but also killed itself out of existence in Europe in only 2 years.
 

Valcazar

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IIRC the classic case is the bubonic plage, which spread very effectively, but also killed itself out of existence in Europe in only 2 years.
The bubonic plague had a reservoir of rats, it lasted for hundreds of years. It's still around.
 

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I love this thinking :). Compensated by whom??? By us? The taxpayers. No, thank you, we have paid too much already.
They are being put through yoyo shutdowns because of the pressure from the righties on re-opening has been intense on Dofo. The restaurants restock, re-hire, spend money to reopen to be shut down in the blink of an eye. We should have had a 3-week complete lockdown with massive enforcement but the provincial government hasn't had the political balls to do it. I can't say I blame Doug, unlike the righties who jump over Justin over ridiculous things, I understand Doug is walking a tight rope and it's obvious he's trying to do the best he can so I'll cut him some slack. All of North America and every well-to-do country has run up massive debt due to COVID. Everyone is basically printing money. Restaurants and some other small businesses deserve a helping hand to see if they can make it through the vaccination campaign.
 
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Valcazar

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They are being put through yoyo shutdowns because of the pressure from the righties on re-opening has been intense on Dofo. The restaurants restock, re-hire, spend money to reopen to be shut down in the blink of an eye. We should have had a 3-week complete lockdown with massive enforcement but the provincial government hasn't had the political balls to do it. I can't say I blame Doug, unlike the righties who jump over Justin over ridiculous things, I understand Doug is walking a tight rope and it's obvious he's trying to do the best he can so I'll cut him some slack. All of North America and every well-to-do country has run up massive debt due to COVID. Everyone is basically printing money. Restaurants and some other small businesses deserve a helping hand to see if they can make it through the vaccination campaign.
That's been the problem throughout, both here and the US. No one wants to take the political hit for a real lockdown so they do shitty half measures and ease them up too quickly.
 
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The bubonic plague had a reservoir of rats, it lasted for hundreds of years. It's still around.
It staged comebacks throughout the pre antibiotic era. The "Great Plague of London" in 1665 (?) was one of them.

There was a backpackers travel show about 30 years ago called Lonely Planet where the traveller dude went to Mongolia of all places. Now there isn't a lot to do in Mongolia - Only 1 city, too arrid and cold for agriculture, sparsely populated. So he found a random local and went marmot hunting. The marmot was found, shot and thrown in a cooking pot. Didn't look that appetizing, but they were obviously challenged for interesting and colourful local experiences to film. Traveller then relates that he found out afterwards that the marmot is a notorious carrier of bubonic plague......

IIRC marmots were the cause of the mini outbreak about a year ago. Fucking marmots!
 

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Several Doctors who are on the Health table have appeared on CTV, CBC, and everyone favorite fake news channel CP24 and stated our vacination strategy is incorrect. When will Ford grow some balls and fire Williams?
When will Tory and Trudeau grow some balls and fire Devilla and Tam?
 
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