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The Lockdowns Weren’t Worth It

basketcase

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I know we're talking old news here but Sweden's no lockdown plan had 3 times the death rate with an economy only a marginally better than their neighbours. Hardly sounds like a winning solution.
 
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Valcazar

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I know we're talking old news here but Sweden's no lockdown plan had 3 times the death rate with an economy only a marginally better than their neighbours. Hardly sounds like a winning solution.
It wasn't.
It's the WSJ opinion page "we would have happily have killed more people ourselves if the GDP went up a point" is pretty much their default position.
 
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I know we're talking old news here but Sweden's no lockdown plan had 3 times the death rate with an economy only a marginally better than their neighbours. Hardly sounds like a winning solution.
Three times the death rate as who. Their death rate was the same this year as any other year. Countries with strict lockdowns had higher death rates than some countries without them. You are right about it though. The news is old but it's far from accurate.
 

fictionfactor

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I know we're talking old news here but Sweden's no lockdown plan had 3 times the death rate with an economy only a marginally better than their neighbours. Hardly sounds like a winning solution.
we live in a global society, If swedens neighbours are not doing well it will affect them as well..........................China is doing amazing btw
 

jcpro

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We spent 400-500 billion dollars with untold billions in the economic damage. Just imagine if we had invested a quarter of that into protecting our seniors and those with the underlying conditions.
 

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Three times the death rate as who. Their death rate was the same this year as any other year. Countries with strict lockdowns had higher death rates than some countries without them. You are right about it though. The news is old but it's far from accurate.
You know very you lost that wager to Val, I mean TJ did, the same thing. You get my point. LOL
 

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We spent 400-500 billion dollars with untold billions in the economic damage. Just imagine if we had invested a quarter of that into protecting our seniors and those with the underlying conditions.
The economic damage globally is into the trillions and keeps growing. But can a price be put on healthcare in a global pandemic? Maybe, maybe not? Furthermore what is the concept of money mean actually anyway when damage is done into the hundreds of billions dollars where the Central Banks when they are ready, can will and must “print” tens of billions of dollars, yen, euros and release them into the world’s economic coffers?

Notice that Ottawa has postponed delivering their budget because the economic situation is changing monthly as personal and government debt is grows at an accelerated rate.
 

jcpro

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The economic damage globally is into the trillions and keeps growing. But can a price be put on healthcare in a global pandemic? Maybe, maybe not? Furthermore what is the concept of money mean actually anyway when damage is done into the hundreds of billions dollars where the Central Banks when they are ready, can will and must “print” tens of billions of dollars, yen, euros and release them into the world’s economic coffers?

Notice that Ottawa has postponed delivering their budget because the economic situation is changing monthly as personal and government debt is grows at an accelerated rate.
I'm not really that concerned what the "Globe" is doing to itself. I am concerned that my barber is forced to cut my hair in the basement of his house, not paying taxes and after closing his shop on the eve of the second lockdown.
 
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luvyeah

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That is total B.S.

Being inconvenienced is a long way from having one's life "destroyed". No wonder that nobody takes the covidiots seriously, aside from other covidiots.
I guess all those people who were economically fucked: anyone with a mortgage who lost their job and those business owners that were not deemed essential were just inconvienced. Tough luck I guess to all those covidiots.

Why would you get into debt right before a pandemic, dumbasses!

Just stay at home for 2 weeks they said, going on now for a year.
 

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I guess all those people who were economically fucked: anyone with a mortgage who lost their job and those business owners that were not deemed essential were just inconvienced. Tough luck I guess to all those covidiots.
The point that you are missing, is that despite what that dumb cartoon attempted to depict, 99.9% of lives were not "destroyed". Unfortunately some were, but for the very vast majority of people, it has mainly been a prolonged inconvenience. Please try to deal in reality.

BTW, please consider how many lives were destroyed by the deaths of loved ones from the virus.
 
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doggystyle99

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That cartoon couldn’t be more false if it tried.

99.9% of lives have not been been destroyed.
0.1% of the population is not vulnerable.

Most certainly 0.1% vaccine recipients do not die from the vaccine.

All you posted is COVIDIOT facts but we all know
COVIDIOTS be factually and mathematically challenged, that’s why those numbers only makes sense to them.
 

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From a healthcare perspective, the worst type of individual to treat is one of these ”covidiots” anti-maskers when they get sick as they tend to be the most, arrogant, obnoxious, ingrates who are perpetually “me first” and don’t think that they are Covid-19 immune. Their time as indeed all of our times will come.
 

basketcase

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I'm not really that concerned what the "Globe" is doing to itself. I am concerned that my barber is forced to cut my hair in the basement of his house, not paying taxes and after closing his shop on the eve of the second lockdown.
He's not forced to break the law.

The problem he faces is not having the financial resources he had before. He has a house, he has food. It would suck for him if he needed to downsize or rely on public services and foodbanks but a successful business is not covered in any human rights code.
 
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basketcase

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I guess all those people who were economically fucked: anyone with a mortgage who lost their job and those business owners that were not deemed essential were just inconvienced. Tough luck I guess to all those covidiots.
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Death of some people vs. some people losing money? Sorry but easy choice for a society to make.
 
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