Some masks better than others

[Phil C. McNasty]

Maybe you should follow the advice of the mask's designers and get it fit properly. Like any mask, not wearing an N95 as designed is as effective as a condom with holes in it

I told you that already. The instructions on how to fit an N95 properly are on the box.
What part of that do you not understand??

And I'm still waiting for your plan on how to make every man shave daily so that N95s are effective

Wait, so are you now admitting that infected air can escape through gaps and holes of an improperly fitted mask???
Wow, thanks for proving me right.

To answer your question, maybe the media should instill more awareness??

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

It means that you do not know if what you are posting is true

I actually do know, in the video he says he wears a mask.
But he wears one just to put people at ease around him, not because he thinks they work.
And if you had watched the entire video you would know that

 

[shack]

And you're wrong about the percentage infected air that are free floating particles, thats a large part of infected air you breathe out

How large of a percentage? Does every single particle of exhaled breath contain virion?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

How large of a percentage? Does every single particle of exhaled breath contain virion?

I dont think anyone knows the exact percentage.

Lets play a little Q & A. If I'm standing beside you in a store lined up waiting to get to the teller.
How many litres of infected air do I breathe out in those 5 minutes (assuming I am Covid-19 positive).

Lets see if you can answer that

 

[shack]

I dont think anyone knows the exact percentage.

Lets play a little Q & A. If I'm standing beside you in a store lined up waiting to get to the teller.
How many litres of infected air do I breathe out in those 5 minutes (assuming I am Covid-19 positive).

Lets see if you can answer that

Better questions because the amount you breathe does not take into account are how much does your mask block, how much non-blocked is directed toward me and how much non-blocked and directed towards me does my mask block? Let's see if you can answer that.

 

[basketcase]

Large droplets fall to the ground very quickly, they dont linger in the air (even if you dont wear a mask).

Wow. To bad that all the medical people weren't telling us that from the beginning!!!

And you're wrong about the percentage infected air that are free floating particles, thats a large part of infected air you breathe out

And I'm sure you have evidence to back that up right? Of course you don't. For some reason, all the medical studies are about spread from large droplets and aerosols. The closest out there is a letter by some docs concerned that microdroplets around 5um might be playing a role. Maybe you should tell them that they're all wrong. Is there a single study out there discussing respiratory transmission of the virus that is not from droplets of some size?


It is indisputable that a significant amount of transmission occurs through droplets and aerosols and it is indisputable that masks reduce the amount and velocity of those particles. Masks help.

 

[squeezer]

Wow. To bad that all the medical people weren't telling us that from the beginning!!!

And I'm sure you have evidence to back that up right?

Come on man, you expect proof & real evidence? I think you're being a bit too demanding!!!

 

[glamphotographer]

You could still get killed in a gunfight wearing a bulletproof vest, so do you stop wearing bulletproof vests?

 

[glamphotographer]

NHL players still can get injured wearing equipment, so do they stop wearing equipment?

 

[squeezer]

I dont think anyone knows the exact percentage.

Lets play a little Q & A. If I'm standing beside you in a store lined up waiting to get to the teller.
How many litres of infected air do I breathe out in those 5 minutes (assuming I am Covid-19 positive).

Lets see if you can answer that

WHY and how can an individual with very good taste in women be so wrong on everything else, WHY???

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Better questions because the amount you breathe does not take into account are how much does your mask block, how much non-blocked is directed toward me and how much non-blocked and directed towards me does my mask block? Let's see if you can answer that.

You responded to my question, but you didnt answer it.
So again, how many litres of infected air do I breathe out in those 5 minutes (assuming I'm Covid-19 positive)

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Wow. To bad that all the medical people weren't telling us that from the beginning!!!

And I'm sure you have evidence to back that up right? Of course you don't

Of course I can. You need to do better research, you come across as terribly uneducated and are starting to embarrass yourself

How Coronavirus Spreads through the Air: What We Know So Far

The virus that causes COVID-19 can persist in aerosol form, some studies suggest. But the potential for transmission depends on many factors, including infectiousness, dose and ventilation

www.scientificamerican.com

To address the prospect of airborne spread of the novel coronavirus, it is first necessary to understand what scientists mean by “airborne.” The term refers to transmission of a pathogen via aerosols—tiny respiratory droplets that can remain suspended in the air (known as droplet nuclei)—as opposed to larger droplets that fall to the ground within a few feet. In reality, though, the distinction between droplets and aerosols is not a clear one. “The separation between what is referred to as ‘airborne spread’ and ‘droplet spread’ is really a spectrum,” especially when talking about relatively small distances, says Joshua Santarpia, an associate professor of pathology and microbiology at the University of Nebraska Medical Center

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

You could still get killed in a gunfight wearing a bulletproof vest, so do you stop wearing bulletproof vests?

NHL players still can get injured wearing equipment, so do they stop wearing equipment?

False equivalence

 

[shack]

You responded to my question, but you didnt answer it.
So again, how many litres of infected air do I breathe out in those 5 minutes (assuming I'm Covid-19 positive)

My questions were more relevant. Who cares how much air you breathe without knowing how much is blocked by the mask and what direction the breaths go? Without knowing the other stuff your question is irrelevant.

 

[squeezer]

https://www.umms.org/coronavirus/wh...qKfJRXat2g-ZLZJk8LDpYdxe_Pxl1uBUJeINy3rmJmcD7

 

[shack]

University of Maryland vs. Phil. Who should I trust more? Hmmm.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

My questions were more relevant. Who cares how much air you breathe without knowing how much is blocked by the mask and what direction the breaths go? Without knowing the other stuff your question is irrelevant

You can't even answer a simple question.
The answer is in 5 minutes you have breathed out 30 litres of infected air: https://www.google.ca/search?as_q=h...ch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&tbs=

Now lets see if you can answer my 2nd question, where do you think all that breathed out air goes to if you're standing in a store lineup????

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

https://www.umms.org/coronavirus/wh...qKfJRXat2g-ZLZJk8LDpYdxe_Pxl1uBUJeINy3rmJmcD7

The numbers dont show that masks have made any difference. Only lockdowns have

 

[shack]

You can't even answer a simple question.
The answer is in 5 minutes you have breathed out 30 litres of infected air: https://www.google.ca/search?as_q=h...ch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&tbs=

Now lets see if you can answer my 2nd question, where do you think all that breathed out air goes to if you're standing in a store lineup????

If you answer my questions, you will have your answer.

Here's a question. If the infected person is facing forward, does the person behind him receive as much of his air as the person in front?

 

[basketcase]

Of course I can. You need to do better research, you come across as terribly uneducated and are starting to embarrass yourself

How Coronavirus Spreads through the Air: What We Know So Far

The virus that causes COVID-19 can persist in aerosol form, some studies suggest. But the potential for transmission depends on many factors, including infectiousness, dose and ventilation

www.scientificamerican.com

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Just another example where you don't even read what you post. It talks about large droplets and aerosols, not free particles of the virus.

And in case you missed it (because you did post it before), those aerosols are in the 5-10um range.