Wes Borland weighs in on Marilyn Manson abuse allegations: “Every single thing that people have said about him is true”

[Valcazar]

And my dudes, google search, 'grooming'. These creeps don't come across as creeps when you first meet them, even with BDSM and kink involved, they know exactly how to coax and prey on women (the more vulnerable the better, you've all seen the "daddy issues" jokes, cmon now). Yes, they may enter into consensual sex and kink, but agreeing to be spanked is a fuck of a lot different than agreeing to given a black eye and a fat lip. Abuse is abuse and the (alleged) victim shaming here is gross. If 5 different exes have spoken out, this isn't a smear campaign, the dude clearly has a problem. Just how many women need to step forward before you believe it? 100s?

The kink scene has had (its gotten somewhat better) a huge fucking problem with predatory Doms and Tops. Grooming people new to the scene and especially convincing them they don't have the right to complain because a "real sub" wouldn't is just part of the bullshit involved.
It's a fucking stereotype for a reason.

 

[Fun For All]

Yup. I remember vividly hanging around a certain goth club in the 90s and a couple of the underage girls coming by after a show bragging about giving him a BJ back stage, and other (more emotionally mature) girls saying he was a total creep. It was incredibly well known in the community.

Not the first time or the last that a Rock N Roll star got a backstage BJ from a girl...

 

[Jasmina]

Yup. Part of why I just stick to my TTT and stay out of the scene now.

The kink scene has had (its gotten somewhat better) a huge fucking problem with predatory Doms and Tops. Grooming people new to the scene and especially convincing them they don't have the right to complain because a "real sub" wouldn't is just part of the bullshit involved.
It's a fucking stereotype for a reason.

 

[Jasmina]

Read my post again, *underage*

Not the first time or the last that a Rock N Roll star got a backstage BJ from a girl...

 

[I'm Me]

Read my post again, *underage*

Under age to drink? Consent to sex? Exactly how old was she? How do you know how old she was?

 

[Fun For All]

Read my post again, *underage*

Marilyn Manson is a creepy guy, some might think that is part of the allure to his bizarre little world and why young girls may be attracted to him...not me.

Also, I've met women 25 years of age that I swear could be underage while some 15-16 year olds look a lot older...I don't think these celebrities ask for ID...

 

[Jasmina]

Agreed on first part, for second, these girls definitely did not pass for 18. They looked (and were) around 15. I myself was only 17 at the time. That's one aspect of rock n'roll that I wish would change already... lots of these dudes know exactly what they are doing. That is why there are loads of songs about 16 year olds.

Marilyn Manson is a creepy guy, some might think that is part of the allure to his bizarre little world and why young girls may be attracted to him...not me.

Also, I've met women 25 years of age that I swear could be underage while some 15-16 year olds look a lot older...I don't think these celebrities ask for ID...

 

[Jasmina]

The goth scene in Toronto has never been big, many people went to school with each other... ages were often openly known amongst the in crowd.

Under age to drink? Consent to sex? Exactly how old was she? How do you know how old she was?

 

[Fun For All]

Agreed on first part, for second, these girls definitely did not pass for 18. They looked (and were) around 15. I myself was only 17 at the time. That's one aspect of rock n'roll that I wish would change already... lots of these dudes know exactly what they are doing. That is why there are loads of songs about 16 year olds.

I wouldn't know...I'm trying to pass for 40.

 

[Renus]

More abuse

Charisma Carpenter Details Buffy/ Angel Boss Joss Whedon's Allegedly 'Toxic' and 'Hostile' Misconduct: 'I Can No Longer Remain Silent’

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/entertainment/charisma-carpenter-details-buffy-angel-172616874.html

Amber Benson, who played Tara on Buffy, echoed Carpenter’s general sentiment, saying on Twitter, “Buffy was a toxic environment and it starts at the top.

 

[lessjamie7]

I believe her. She seems like she was honest. She said everything was consensual but that he clearly has some violent ways of thinking of people. I would have run too.

Hmm, case closed.

LJ

 

[Starstrike]

More abuse

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/entertainment/charisma-carpenter-details-buffy-angel-172616874.html

Amber Benson, who played Tara on Buffy, echoed Carpenter’s general sentiment, saying on Twitter, “Buffy was a toxic environment and it starts at the top.

Hahahaha! And Joss Whedon has always pretended to be this massive feminist! Oh, this is too good!

 

[Robert Mugabe]

 

[Charlemagne]

Los Angeles authorities investigating Marilyn Manson abuse allegations

Los Angeles authorities investigating Marilyn Manson abuse allegations

Authorities in Los Angeles are investigating multiple allegations of abuse against rock musician Marilyn Manson.

thehill.com

 

[Insidious Von]

Hahahaha! And Joss Whedon has always pretended to be this massive feminist! Oh, this is too good!

Joss Whedon didn't pass the smell test with Disney, he lost The Avengers franchise after Ultron.

I'm of the impression that the dogma of the women's liberation movement has not seeped into the minds of young women. In his prime more women flung themselves at Marylin Manson more often than us board members have had lurid thoughts. At the height of his Gonad the Barbarian daze, David Lee Roth had women lined up at his hotel waiting to fuck him. Now the bitter reality is that the process of banning abortion has already begun, the bill will make it's way to the SC within the next 18 months. Roe vs Wade potentially could be repealed. So far I have seen no groundswell of support for pro-choice. If a Million Woman March to protect their civil right does not happen, then the Women's Liberation Movement will have failed.