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Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

  • Yes, as soon as possible

    Votes: 220 57.7%
  • Yes, but I do not want to be among the first to take it.

    Votes: 68 17.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 17 4.5%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 21 5.5%
  • Absolutely not

    Votes: 50 13.1%
  • I do not care if I do or don't

    Votes: 5 1.3%

  • Total voters
    381
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jetwolf

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Please explain to me what makes a vaccine with potential allergies, possible side effects that has not been used on the general public different from any other new drug that may cause allergies, may have side effects and not been used on the general public.
One difference is that the vaccine is intended to be administered to the entire population, most of whom are healthy. So, if a certain % of people suffer an adverse reaction, that's a lot more people suffering an adverse reaction than would be the case for a typical drug which is administered to a relatively small number of sick people. The acceptable margin of error with a vaccine is lower.
 

shack

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One difference is that the vaccine is intended to be administered to the entire population, most of whom are healthy. So, if a certain % of people suffer an adverse reaction, that's a lot more people suffering an adverse reaction than would be the case for a typical drug which is administered to a relatively small number of sick people. The acceptable margin of error with a vaccine is lower.
Fair enough but to a single individual taking a drug for the first time that does not apply. In fact, with what you say an individual would be safer with the vaccine since the margin of error is lower.
 

massman

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If you are even just considering getting vaccinated for the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19), Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has a message for you: don’t do it!

The nephew of former president John F. Kennedy recently issued a public statement urging people everywhere to avoid the COVID-19 jab at all costs because it contains an untested new technology known as mRNA, the long-term side effects of which are completely unknown.

mRNA directly alters the genetic material of those who receive it, much like what happens when “scientists” genetically engineer (GMO) food crops like soybeans or corn to make them resistant to bugs or drought.

“This intervention can be compared to genetically modified foods, which are also very controversial,” Kennedy says.

Unlike all other vaccines, the genetic damage of which is not necessarily permanent, mRNA genetic damage is “irreversible and irreparable,” Kennedy notes.

You can learn more about mRNA vaccine technology at this link.

“Even though the media and politicians are currently trivializing the problem and even foolishly calling for a new type of vaccine to return to normality, this vaccination is problematic in terms of health, morality and ethics, but also in terms of genetic damage,” Kennedy says.

Kennedy: COVID-19 vaccines are a “crime against humanity”
As opposed to older vaccines, many of which can be “detoxified” following injection, mRNA COVID-19 vaccines live on in perpetuity inside the body. The damage they cause, in other words, is forever.

“You will have to live with the consequences because you will no longer be able to be cured simply by removing toxins from the human body,” Kennedy explains, comparing the genetic damage to the type that causes Down syndrome or cystic fibrosis.

mRNA is almost like a continuous vaccine “engine” that repeatedly vaccinates a person for the rest of his or her life. Because of this, there is no way to “fix” or “cure” any problems that arise.

“This clearly means: if a vaccination symptom develops after an mRNA vaccination, neither I nor any other therapist will be able to help you, as the damage caused by this vaccination will be genetically irreversible,” Kennedy warns.

Not since the actual Holocaust has something so evil been foisted on the world in the name of “public health.” COVID-19 vaccines are not only unsafe, Kennedy contends, but they represent a “crime against humanity that has never been committed in such a significant way in history.”

“As experienced physician Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg said: Actually, this ‘promising vaccine’ for the vast majority of people should be banned because it is genetic engineering!'”

In other words, getting vaccinated for COVID-19 means that a person will become a GMO zombie, of sorts, with no opportunity to go back to his old self. It sounds a whole lot like the mark of the beast from the book of Revelation, would you not agree?

In the past, Kennedy, who is considered by many to be the best Kennedy, has warned that traditional vaccines are already bad enough, causing serious brain damage that for many is irreversible. And Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines are far worse than that, he says, which is why nobody under any circumstances should take them.

“Study the history of vaccination, from Jenner to Pasteur to Polk,” wrote one Strange Sounds commenter. “There is no proof they do anything but inject you with (best case scenario) a portion of the virus.”

“A virus is simply a piece of DNA or RNA and because it is NOT a cellular life form, is not deactivated or dead,” this same commenter added. “The theory is you need to educate or exercise your immune system. Wrong. Modern medicine can simply be described by the movie Frankenstein.”

More related news about the new Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines can be found at Pandemic.news.

Sources for this article include:

StrangeSounds.org

Science.news

Radio.NaturalNews.com
This is all lies, and clearly RFK jr should stick to the family business of politics and leave medicine and science to the pros. mRNA DOES NOT permanently alter your genetic makeup. mRNA is degraded completely within hours. It does not get inserted into your DNA. Anti vaccine charlatans are using confusion between mRNA and DNA to stoke fear and further their warped agenda at the expense of the health of society.
 

Fun For All

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I just told you, it doesnt. With any new drug I think its smart to wait a while before you take it.
Especially since these vaccines have been rushed through in less than a year.

What is it you dont understand about that??
You'll show us how smart you are, way to go...I guess those Health Canada people are just stumbling around in the dark acting recklessly for the public's health.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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You'll show us how smart you are, way to go...I guess those Health Canada people are just stumbling around in the dark acting recklessly for the public's health
Not necessarily reckless, sometimes just being too quick to approve some drugs
Have a look at this (its FDA but HPB has made similar mistakes in the past):


Nearly a third of FDA-approved drugs had problems, study finds

Patients might think the US Food and Drug Administration’s stamp of approval means that a product is the last word on safety, but about a third of the drugs the FDA approved between 2001 and 2010 were involved in some kind of safety event after reaching the market, according to a study published Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

The authors found that in that time, 222 novel therapeutics were approved, and there were 123 postmarket safety events involving 71 products that required FDA action. Manufacturers needed to add 61 boxed warnings, also commonly called a black box warning, to call attention to serious or life-threatening risks.

In 59 cases, some kind of communication had to warn users about a product’s safety.

Three therapeutics were withdrawn from the market.

Drugs used to treat mental illness and drugs that went through an accelerated approval process had a higher number of “events,” the study found
 

Fun For All

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Not necessarily reckless, sometimes just being too quick to approve some drugs
Have a look at this (its FDA but HPB has made similar mistakes in the past):


Nearly a third of FDA-approved drugs had problems, study finds

Patients might think the US Food and Drug Administration’s stamp of approval means that a product is the last word on safety, but about a third of the drugs the FDA approved between 2001 and 2010 were involved in some kind of safety event after reaching the market, according to a study published Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

The authors found that in that time, 222 novel therapeutics were approved, and there were 123 postmarket safety events involving 71 products that required FDA action. Manufacturers needed to add 61 boxed warnings, also commonly called a black box warning, to call attention to serious or life-threatening risks.

In 59 cases, some kind of communication had to warn users about a product’s safety.

Three therapeutics were withdrawn from the market.

Drugs used to treat mental illness and drugs that went through an accelerated approval process had a higher number of “events,” the study found
Again, don't take it...wow, you just proved it, I don't think anybody should take it now...a COVID vaccine that has been approved by Health agencies, what a scam.
 
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jcpro

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Again, don't take it...wow, you just proved it, I don't think anybody should take it now...a COVID vaccine that has been approved by Health agencies, what a scam.
You mean to say that you're not concerned? Trump's Warp Speed project removed a lot of hurdles to keep the "vaccine by the end of the year" promise. A 3 to 5 years process was compressed to about six months. I got to say, your faith in the system is on a whole different level.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Again, don't take it...wow, you just proved it, I don't think anybody should take it now...a COVID vaccine that has been approved by Health agencies, what a scam
You too have reading comprehension fail.

I never said I wouldnt take the vaccine, I said I was going to wait a year or two
 

Fun For All

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You mean to say that you're not concerned? Trump's Warp Speed project removed a lot of hurdles to keep the "vaccine by the end of the year" promise. A 3 to 5 years process was compressed to about six months. I got to say, your faith in the system is on a whole different level.
No, I'm not concerned and I do have faith in the system...
 
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squeezer

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Doctors , nurses, all front line medical workers, people with under lying conditions and old folks in old age homes isn't enough of a trial run??

WTF, there is no hope for some. LOL
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Doctors , nurses, all front line medical workers, people with under lying conditions and old folks in old age homes isn't enough of a trial run??

WTF, there is no hope for some. LOL
They are, but not over a very short period of time. You need to give it at least 1 or 2 years.
Some people think its even longer (like 8 to 10 years). But I'm not gonna wait that long
 

Fun For All

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You can be a good citizen AND a guinea pig at the same time.
The two are not mutually exclusive
The longer it takes to vaccinate the people the longer it’ll be to open up businesses/entertainment/etc...if you want to be that selfish with an arrogant attitude than you will be one of the causes for a slow recovery.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The longer it takes to vaccinate the people the longer it’ll be to open up businesses/entertainment/etc...if you want to be that selfish with an arrogant attitude than you will be one of the causes for a slow recovery.
Here is the thing, if you get vaccinated you should be safe from the virus, so why are you worried about me possibly passing it along to you after you've been vaccinated??
 

Fun For All

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Here is the thing, if you get vaccinated you should be safe from the virus, so why are you worried about me possibly passing it along to you after you've been vaccinated??
I’m not worried about it...the government officials will be slower to green light the reopening phase if only a small percentage of citizens get vaccinated...
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I’m not worried about it...the government officials will be slower to green light the reopening phase if only a small percentage of citizens get vaccinated...
Not necessarily. Those who have been vaccinated can start going to bars, restaurants, cinemas.....etc. And those who havent simply will have to wait a while. Also we might have a vaccination passport soon, and that means you cannot enter public places without them:

 
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