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Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

  • Yes, as soon as possible

    Votes: 220 57.7%
  • Yes, but I do not want to be among the first to take it.

    Votes: 68 17.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 17 4.5%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 21 5.5%
  • Absolutely not

    Votes: 50 13.1%
  • I do not care if I do or don't

    Votes: 5 1.3%

  • Total voters
    381
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TeeJay

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Looking at the flu as an example, I could not find a single report of a death caused by the vaccination in Canada in the past few years compared to 6000+ deaths. I expect the covid vaccine will have similar numbers.
Search for the correct term and you can easily find them

Under anaphylactic shock we had *16* iatrogenic cases that resulted in death in Ontario alone

Even Health Canada has issued a warning as those who can experience allergies can be at risk

 

Phil C. McNasty

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Speaking of dumbass, it is amazing that the alt-right is now upset with the corporate nature of pharma companies.

Sad that these guys now think science is really just political opinion.


And no shit you shouldn't take a vaccine if you are allergic to any of the components. It's like telling someone with peanut allergies that they should be careful around Thai food
The problem is some people might be allergic to the vaccine itself, and you have no way of knowing that until you actually take the vaccine.

Also, they dont know what the long-term effects of this vaccine will be.
We are in completely uncharted territory with this drug
 
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Insidious Von

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Yes but only when told by health authorities to do so. I didn't take precautions to protect myself only to get caught in a crush of people.
 

shack

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The problem is some people might be allergic to the vaccine itself, and you have no way of knowing that until you actually take the vaccine
Which is the exact same for any medication. Do you also warn people about antibiotics, pain killers, diabetes meds, heart meds etc?
 

shack

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Also, they dont know what the long-term effects of this vaccine will be.
We are in completely uncharted territory with this drug
How is that different from any other new drug? By definition of the word "new" they are all completely uncharted.
 

squeezer

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I would love to roll up my sleeve but most of us will have to wait until the spring.

 

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Shocking report on COVID vaccine adverse effects: the roll-out continues anyway
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Millions of people can experience life-threatening effects from the vaccine
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December 14, 2020
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From the UK, The Guardian has the story: “People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not receive the Covid vaccine, the medicines regulator has said, after two NHS workers experienced symptoms on Wednesday.”
They just figured this out? Now?
The Guardian is referring to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, which has just been approved in the US.
Two people experiencing significant adverse effects may not sound important, particularly since they already a history of allergic reactions, but the following quote in the Guardian article raises major red flags a mile high:
“The MHRA [UK Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency] advice states: ‘Any person with a history of a significant allergic reaction to a vaccine, medicine or food (such as previous history of anaphylactoid reaction or those who have been advised to carry an adrenaline autoinjector) should not receive the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine. Resuscitation facilities should be available at all times for all vaccinations. Vaccination should only be carried out in facilities where resuscitation measures are available’.”
First of all, a very large number of people have a history of allergic reactions to a vaccine or medicine or food. Automatically, these people should not take the vaccine. But how many people in the general public are aware of this restriction?
Second, with the operation to vaccinate hundreds of millions of people running at top speed, who actually believes that many locations where shots are given will have the necessary resuscitation equipment on hand? Sheer insanity.
Then, on top of all this, we have a bombshell statement from the Denver Post: “Documents published by the two [vaccine] companies [Pfizer and BioNTech] showed that people with a history of severe allergic reactions were excluded from the [clinical vaccine] trials, and doctors were advised to look out for such reactions in trial participants who weren’t previously known to have severe allergies.”
In other words, the clinical trials were already biased, because they excluded people with a history of allergic reactions. Therefore, the performance of the vaccine looked safer. Therefore, no one would find out that allergic reactions to the vaccine are a MAJOR danger.
And NOW, as if it’s nothing more than an afterthought, we get—“Oh, by the way, if people have allergies, they shouldn’t take the vaccine.”
Why don’t regulators simply admit, “This vaccine is as disastrous as possible, but we can’t let that cat out of the bag.”
I have written about the inherent dangers of the new experimental RNA technology deployed with this COVOD vaccine. The world population is a vast group of guinea pigs. Past efforts to introduce RNA tech have failed because serious autoimmune reactions have occurred. The body basically attacks itself.
What rational person would line up to take this shot?
You have to ask yourself why some Pittsburgh and Chicago medical centers aren’t making the new COVID vaccine mandatory for their own healthcare workers.
They’ve issued that announcement on the basis of wait-and-see. They know the vaccine carries major risks, and the clinical trials were far from convincing.
According to WebMD, “more than 50 million Americans suffer from allergies each year.” 200,000 people come to the ER with food allergies. 4-5% of the population have food allergies. Who can say, with certainty, how many Americans would experience, say, life- threatening anaphylactic shock from the COVID vaccine?

And when it comes to medicines, consider just one type of allergic reaction—to penicillin or antibiotics. Is the outbreak of a rash serious enough to warrant automatic exemption from the COVID vaccine? Should shortness of breath be the standard? No one knows.

Finally, as I’ve reported in these pages several times, the 3 major clinical trials of COVID vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca) were designed to prevent nothing more than a “mild case of COVID-19.” That means a cough, or chills and fever.

Serious cases of illness? Hospitalization? Death? These were not on the radar of the clinical trials.

Cough, or chills and fever, cure themselves naturally. No need for a vaccine.

So again, what rational person would line up to take the COVID shot?

What rational person would imagine the celebratory media coverage of the vaccine rollout, or the carnival barking of Trump, amounts to more than a typical sales job and a hustle and a con?

Of course, you’re not supposed to know about the information in this article, even though it’s readily available in open source literature and in mainstream news. Social media censor the ANALYSIS OF THE MEANING OF THIS INFORMATION.
That’s called a clue.
That’s called medical tyranny.
A dictatorship wants you to take the COVID shot.
That’s another clue.

Shocking report on COVID vaccine adverse effects: the roll-out continues anyway « Jon Rappoport's Blog (nomorefakenews.com)
 

basketcase

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Search for the correct term and you can easily find them

Under anaphylactic shock we had *16* iatrogenic cases that resulted in death in Ontario alone

Even Health Canada has issued a warning as those who can experience allergies can be at risk

1) A source would be useful.
2) 16 deaths from the flu shot in (?) years (assuming your source is legit) out of 5 million doses given and compare to 1,500 flu deaths every year?

And no shit that if you are allergic to the ingredients of something you shouldn't have it. Don't know why the two people in the UK (who didn't dies BTW) would take it if they had previous anaphalactoid responses to vaccines.
 

basketcase

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The problem is some people might be allergic to the vaccine itself, and you have no way of knowing that until you actually take the vaccine.

Also, they dont know what the long-term effects of this vaccine will be.
We are in completely uncharted territory with this drug
You're right. That is a possibility. That's why the tested the vaccine on 40,000 people before distribution.

That said, the two people with anaphlalactoid responses had known allergies to previous vaccines.
 

shack

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It isnt, which is exactly why I'm going to wait a year or two before taking it
I asked how it was different and your answer is just "it isn't".

Please explain to me what makes a vaccine with potential allergies, possible side effects that has not been used on the general public different from any other new drug that may cause allergies, may have side effects and not been used on the general public.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I asked how it was different and your answer is just "it isn't".

Please explain to me what makes a vaccine with potential allergies, possible side effects that has not been used on the general public different from any other new drug that may cause allergies, may have side effects and not been used on the general public
I just told you, it doesnt. With any new drug I think its smart to wait a while before you take it.
Especially since these vaccines have been rushed through in less than a year.

What is it you dont understand about that??
 
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TeeJay

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1) A source would be useful.
2) 16 deaths from the flu shot in (?) years (assuming your source is legit) out of 5 million doses given and compare to 1,500 flu deaths every year?

And no shit that if you are allergic to the ingredients of something you shouldn't have it. Don't know why the two people in the UK (who didn't dies BTW) would take it if they had previous anaphalactoid responses to vaccines.
Its on the ON health page are you serious you dont know where to look for numbers after all of this?

Vast majority of allergies are discovered through a violent reaction
Whether something simple like nuts or complex like drugs

Sometimes reaction can even be delayed (eg exposed and a few hours later die)


Also according to StatsCan 28% of Canadians have a KNOWN allergy
Which means to be safe (counting unknowns with no reactions yet) should probably double that number up to 56% of Canadians COULD have a very serious reaction to the Covid vaccine

Hence reason for public health warning


But with limited doses available and a vaccine that can easily kill the guinea pigs who try it out I doubt you will see much compliance with vaccinations


 

basketcase

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Its on the ON health page are you serious you dont know where to look for numbers after all of this?
So you don't want to give a source for your claims then and think I should scour through the whole portal to find your alleged facts? I should have known by now that all your numbers come from your nether regions.

The data they do give is from 2012 to 2018 and they list 2 case as "managed as anaphylaxis" listed as serious but does not list whether the patient died. During that time there were somewhere around 20 million doses administered (and roughly 1400 deaths from the flu).

Pathetic to see a person accusing mask wearers of being stupidly afraid claiming that a 1 in 10 million chance is a major threat.
 

squeezer

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Which means to be safe (counting unknowns with no reactions yet) should probably double that number up to 56% of Canadians COULD have a very serious reaction to the Covid vaccine

Hence reason for public health warning


But with limited doses available and a vaccine that can easily kill the guinea pigs who try it out I doubt you will see much compliance with vaccinations


Oh boy, wow! The stupidity is hiilarious.
 
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