Sweden says its coronavirus approach has worked. The numbers show a different story
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You do understand noone has proven / disproven a dam thing when it comes to covid right?
Even majority of experts are in the dark, and the WIDE disparities in HOW each country reports means you have no way of comparing Country A to Country B (fuck you cant even compare between provinces since they all have different rules)
Maybe 10 years from now someone will be able to crunch the numbers and get a better perspective but EVERY source being quoted has bias and the people doing the quoting have their own political bias
I have visited 4 different hospitals in 3 different cities
There is no "over run" despite what media is crying and anyone can see this for themselves
(majority of hospitals are ghost towns as people are afraid to go there unless they REALLY need to now)
I went into emergency at a hospital for over 3 hours yesterday. Not afraid in the least. Went to get pain meds.
Calling BS
Noone goes to hospital to "get pain meds" lol
That's what your doctor is for
As well it sounds unbelievable that YOU of all people would head to a dangerously overcrowded hospital
But thanks for confirming hospitals are empty anyways. If even non-essential is getting through emerg in such a short time it basically backs up what we have been saying re #FakeNews
Wrong, as usual.
I don't have a doctor & the walk-in clinics were closed for the day. Therefore i went to the hospital. Duh.
Also had xrays taken while there for 3.5 hours.
The hospital was far from empty. In the waiting room there were 5 people sitting there when i arrived, with seating capacity for only 1 more after me. We don't know how many were in a separate covid area or ICU.
"What Young, Healthy People Have to Fear From COVID-19
The White House’s new science adviser says: nothing. The science disagrees.
Herd immunity is an inoperable plan, teetering on a false assumption of elderly-cocooning, which encourages young people to play craps with the long-term health of their internal organs. The choice is yours. You can listen to the scientists. Or you can roll the dice with your guts.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...ung-healthy-people-have-fear-covid-19/616087/
"COVID-19 now likely leading cause of death among 25-44's in USA":
"...Based on the study findings, the team concluded that COVID-19 has likely become the leading cause of death among young adults in some areas of the U.S. during the pandemic. The team also noted that in these regions, the COVID-19 related mortality is similar to the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)/ Acquired Immunodeficiency Disease Syndrome (AIDS) epidemic at its peak in the country between 1994 and 1995.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...ading-cause-of-death-among-25-44s-in-USA.aspx
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That won't keep them from being infected from others who are infected at places where they get food, groceries, medicine, clinical or hospital care. And many such places have no "designated hours".Ladeda;13331136 said:
Clinics & hospitals are where high risk people & low risk people congregate. So your plan for them to "stay away" from each other is not going to work. It's going to fail on multiple fronts, in multiple places. Not only in clinics & hospitals, but in grocery stores, work places, sidewalks, public transit, long term care homes, people's personal residences, etc.Ladeda;13331136 said:
With your plan to let low risk people do whatever they please, even more of them will end up sick & in hospitals, clinics, pharmacies, etc, so even more risk for high risk people going to those places.
With many, if not the vast majority, of countries worldwide that is simply not available and or not an option governments are willing to implement.Ladeda;13331136 said:
Yet deaths continue there even under stricter conditions than you would prefer. You would allow people to do whatever they please, putting those nurses at greater risk of infection, which means the high risk people under their care are at higher risk of death because of your irresponsibility.Ladeda;13331136 said:
See above. What the irresponsible do in acting less safely affects others who are at high risk. Studies prove this. That's how pandemics work.Ladeda;13331136 said:
Furthermore if younger healthier people do whatever they want & get infected, many of them will get sick & fill up hospitals putting a strain on them & risking them being overwhelmed.
What hypocrites do is irrelevant. Because person A says its wrong to murder but does it himself is not a justification for doing what is wrong or an excuse for you to do the same.Ladeda;13331136 said:
To err is human. We're all sinners.
Sweden didn't have a huge influx of infected from early pandemic hotspots such as China, Iran, Italy. NYC did.
Sweden has a much less concentrated population than NYC.
Sweden has more people who live alone than NYC.
If Sweden's population was crammed into NYC's location it's soft lockdown approach would have resulted in far more deaths.
OTOH if NYC's residents were relocated to where Sweden is & spread throughout the country, NYC would have had way fewer deaths than it has had.
Comparing Sweden to NYC is like comparing apples to banana peels, not apples to apples.
Comparing Sweden to its 3 Nordic neighbours is an apples to apples comparison. And it shows Sweden's soft lockdown strategy has been a colossal failure.
Wait, the guy who spend the summer claiming Sweden reached herd immunity thinks I'm missing the point?
p.s. have you looked at Sweden's version of that graph?
Denmark Mid-October low until now
Oct 13: 290 cases ---- Dec 10: 3132 ---- Increase of 1080%
Sweden mid-October low to now:
Oct 10 509 cases ---- Dec 10: 6051 ---- Increase of 1188%
BTW Dec 9 was 8042, a 1580% increase
So tell me, how is it that Sweden is doing better than Denmark?
Yet almost a year ago you already concluded covid is a hoax? Yeah, that makes sense.
The word 'proven' isn't super scientific but we have a heck of a lot of data that exposes your fraud.
The point is Denmark's new cases have skyrocketed over the last few weeks, and all this while Denmark made masks mandatory.
Go explain that one
Interesting opinion here:
forums.eog.com
Sweden more successful than NYC
Get out of your basement and make some more videos....
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Even in a non pandemic a hospital is not a doctor office
We know lenny is an idiot but who walks into emerg looking for a pain killer?
I was in non covid areas of the hospital where everyone was masked up & social distancing.
Evidently the health authorities in my area - Vancouver, BC - think hospitals accepting non covid emergency patients is ok.
Got some pain meds that i'll be able to use for travelling to & within Asia in 2021 or 2022.
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"Sweden’s Covid Workers Are Quitting in Dangerous Numbers
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
www.bloomberg.com
On your next trip can you pick up some Risperdal for CM/SPFree/Decoy/Dracula , Beejay , Smallhatch and a few other Amigos.
Riiiiiiiight. You were quite clearly trying to use Denmark to 'prove' Sweden's actions have been a success. without bothering to consider that Sweden is doing worse by those same metrics.
By any criteria you want to look at, Sweden's response was a failure.
Strange to see a guy who denies medical and scientific discoveries refer to someone as an idiot.
Not the best use of an ER but if it was a serious pain and his doctor's office had no appointments available, it makes more sense than pretending covid isn't a problem.
You do realize if your family doc is busy (or no fam doc) they have something called a walk in?
Noone ever goes to emerg for a pain killer unless they are a real idiot
At best you will sit for hours as every more serious case passes you by at worst you are wasting a doctors time
