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y2kmark

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Year 2010: Alex Jones is a lunatic conspiracist
Year 2020: Alex Jones is a prophet

Aliens area real and the Illuminati are signing intergalactic treatise as we speak. You decry globalization but you ain't seen nothing yet.
If A. Jones is a prophet so was Art Bell.

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basketcase

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rocket thrust=mass flow rate×exit velocity+(exit pressure−free stream pressure)×exit arearocket thrust=mass flow rate×exit velocity+(exit pressure−free stream pressure)×exit area
Hmm. Whatever source you looked that up in must have forgotten to include friction. Strange.

Friction is a force exerted when two surfaces are in contact. No surface = no friction.


Friction that allows us to walk depends on gravity to convert our mass to weigh...
I'll stop you right there. When on a surface, friction is able to provide a resisting force. That resisting force could be a reaction force (a la Newton) and create an impulse. You have absolute no need to use friction for this purpose though when the normal force can do it (the reason nascar tracks are banked). You don't need friction to jump straight up and you don't need friction if you are pushing on a surface that isn't horizontal.

Rockets and for the most part jet engines work on conservation of momentum. Friction has nothing to do with it. Yes, when walking on a flat surface, you need something to exert an impulse and friction can serve that role but it is far from the only force that can cause an acceleration. The we have that whole thing about an object in motion where friction creates a force that STOPS motion.

And no, friction does not always depend on gravity; it depends on a normal force. For example, if you lean against a wall, the frictional force that resists you hand sliding up or down is dependent on the force you apply to the wall, not ghravity.

Look, you have no clue what you are talking about here. You may have gotten an okay mark in high school physics but you were either poorly taught, didn't learn, or forgot most everything.
 
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basketcase

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So are you saying that the airplanes tires need to be able to grip the asphalt to accelerate the aircraft to flying speed?

And that "fluid friction" is required for lift?
Fluid Friction is something that Kelly Anne Conway came up with.
 

basketcase

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...Can we jump without friction? No....
I disagree with that one. If we want some kind of horizontal motion in that jump then we need a horizontal force and friction can do that but no friction is needed purely to jump straight up (unless you want to split hairs about the mechanics of the foot causing a torque).
 

Tomoreno

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Hmm. Whatever source you looked that up in must have forgotten to include friction. Strange.

Friction is a force exerted when two surfaces are in contact. No surface = no friction.



I'll stop you right there. When on a surface, friction is able to provide a resisting force. That resisting force could be a reaction force (a la Newton) and create an impulse. You have absolute no need to use friction for this purpose though when the normal force can do it (the reason nascar tracks are banked). You don't need friction to jump straight up and you don't need friction if you are pushing on a surface that isn't horizontal.

Rockets and for the most part jet engines work on conservation of momentum. Friction has nothing to do with it. Yes, when walking on a flat surface, you need something to exert an impulse and friction can serve that role but it is far from the only force that can cause an acceleration. The we have that whole thing about an object in motion where friction creates a force that STOPS motion.

And no, friction does not always depend on gravity; it depends on a normal force. For example, if you lean against a wall, the frictional force that resists you hand sliding up or down is dependent on the force you apply to the wall, not ghravity.

Look, you have no clue what you are talking about here. You may have gotten an okay mark in high school physics but you were either poorly taught, didn't learn, or forgot most everything.
You've exhibited extraordinary selective reading.

I explained what I meant more than once. Linked web, video, copy and paste material simply to show what it is I meant. Instead of actually reading or watching, you're jumping to own conclusions.

Even with forces of friction you're picking and choosing what to apply where.

No forces means NONE! No traction, no friction, no stopping power on every level, even nuclear.

If you insist that I'm wrong and crazy, then I'll have to put my nuts in your basket... but that'll make you a nutcase as well.
 

Valcazar

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Really? That goes against what I had learned.
Long standing error, probably started by ancient Greek historians.
Evidence points to it not being slave labour. Probably a mix of skilled artisans and corvee labor during the off-season. I think the exact details are still debated but "masses of slaves" doesn't seem to track with the evidence.
(Obviously, corvee would still be forced to some degree, even if it isn't what we normally consider slavery in the modern context.)
 

basketcase

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You've exhibited extraordinary selective reading.

I explained what I meant more than once....
And kept digging the hole deeper and deeper.

Friction is a force that can be used to provide an impulse. There are many other forces that can do the same thing. Maybe you should go watch some videos on Newton's Laws of Motion to get a refresher because you are just spewing nonsense to try and save face and it's not working.

Your claims that nuclear forces and rockets use friction are just asinine. I could give you some slack when you used the term "friction" to refer to other resistive forces like air resistance but you go way to far.

But hey, maybe all science is wrong and we'll be in awe when you publish your masterpiece. Could I suggest the title 'Friction, King of all Forces'? Worst case it it will be a good laugh.
 

Tomoreno

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And kept digging the hole deeper and deeper.

Friction is a force that can be used to provide an impulse. There are many other forces that can do the same thing. Maybe you should go watch some videos on Newton's Laws of Motion to get a refresher because you are just spewing nonsense to try and save face and it's not working.

Your claims that nuclear forces and rockets use friction are just asinine. I could give you some slack when you used the term "friction" to refer to other resistive forces like air resistance but you go way to far.

But hey, maybe all science is wrong and we'll be in awe when you publish your masterpiece. Could I suggest the title 'Friction, King of all Forces'? Worst case it it will be a good laugh.
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shakenbake

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Ok, Amigos. You can't go from point A to point B without a force of friction. Sounds like a joke, but it's not.
Force, yes. Friction? That slows shit down. Where did you learn your physics, Trump University?
 
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Tomoreno

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For fucks sake... imagine a world where everything is a few notches beyond frozen. How much friction would you have?
That's right! You'll have fuck all!
 

Tomoreno

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You are talking nonsense to established engineers and scientists, here. Your credibility is in question by how you respond to their comments and when they correct you.
The only thing you established so far is that you can't read very well and might be a nutcase after all

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shakenbake

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The only thing you established so far is that you can't read very well and might be a nutcase after all

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The same can be said about you. Quit spouting shit from your mouth, your asshole is getting jealous. Most of us know what many TERB members do for a living, even though we are all anonymous online. You are insulting many much more intelligent people than yourself with your dumb responses.
To the ignore bin you go. I have no time for trolls like you.
 
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