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mandrill

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17 States Join Texas in Supreme Court Lawsuit Against Michigan, Georgia, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania Over Fraudulent Election
Sure they are. They know that the USSC will dismiss the case. So it's an empty gesture of loyalty.

If the previous 52 court applications were not successful, how the fuck is this one going to be successful?
 
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Valcazar

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A number of states have joined Texas to support its election lawsuit:

Tennessee: https://www.tennessean.com/story/ne...xas-lawsuit-presidential-election/3866898001/
West Virginia: https://www.wvpublic.org/government...s-scotus-lawsuit-over-election-irregularities
South Dakota: https://www.dakotanewsnow.com/2020/...g-texas-lawsuit-challenging-election-results/
Mississippi: https://www.clarionledger.com/story...ction-lawsuit-battleground-states/3865379001/

17 states in total have submitted supporting briefs.

Given how insultingly stupid the Texas lawsuit is (we're talking that the fact they filed it is a demonstration of power in that "since no one with the ability to tie shoes would believe this, making people support it is to show how dominant we are" kind of way) the question is are these other states GOP officials joining because they know it will fail and it is just "virtue signalling"/shibboleth kind of behavior or is it worry about the threats they are receiving?

Or, worse, is it they just genuinely believe that laying the groundwork for "if the Democrats win, it is by definition Fraud" is worth it to destroy democracy going forward? Purely ideological, in other words?
 
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You claimed any Republican candidate would have pulled the same number of votes as Trump did. I am telling you no. So why are you talking about Democratic candidate?
The 74 million votes that Trump got don’t mean a lot when Biden got 80 million.

I’m saying that not all 74 million voted Trump, many just voted Republican.
 

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He won against Hillary Clinton when almost no one predicted he would do so. Two Republican candidates couldn’t win against Obama. Mitt Romney lost even when economic indicators weren’t favourable. My final word. Cheers.
Not sure what your point is. He lost to Biden by 7M votes. Was there a point? If your point is that he got 74M votes in the face of all of that adversity I agree that is quite impressive. A very sad commentary of the state of the US but impressive nonetheless.
 
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Trump loses again. The Arizona-kraken goes down in shame.

Those judges just don't get it. They aren't supposed to judge them on facts or evidence, only on whether their theories of fact or law appear rational.

Federal Judge in Arizona Dismisses Third Limb of Sidney Powell’s Post-Election ‘Kraken,’ Which Was ‘Sorely Wanting of Relevant or Reliable Evidence’

I mean, listen to this guy, he thinks that they should be ruled by evidence and the law, not theories or gossip.
“Not only have Plaintiffs failed to provide the Court with factual support for their extraordinary claims, but they have wholly failed to establish that they have standing for the Court to consider them. Allegations that find favor in the public sphere of gossip and innuendo cannot be a substitute for earnest pleadings and procedure in federal court,” the judge concluded. “They most certainly cannot be the basis for upending Arizona’s 2020 General Election.”
 
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Given how insultingly stupid the Texas lawsuit is (we're talking that the fact they filed it is a demonstration of power in that "since no one with the ability to tie shoes would believe this, making people support it is to show how dominant we are" kind of way) the question is are these other states GOP officials joining because they know it will fail and it is just "virtue signalling"/shibboleth kind of behavior or is it worry about the threats they are receiving?

Or, worse, is it they just genuinely believe that laying the groundwork for "if the Democrats win, it is by definition Fraud" is worth it to destroy democracy going forward? Purely ideological, in other words?
Any or all of the above.

Since it is a pile of shit supreme, cheering it on has no more validity that wishing your neighbour's dimwit kid success on his hopeless application to Harvard Law when everyone in the room knows the little moron got D's in community college last semester. You pose as supportive and friendly and pick up some buddy-points and it really doesn't matter fuck.
 

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Any or all of the above.

Since it is a pile of shit supreme, cheering it on has no more validity that wishing your neighbour's dimwit kid success on his hopeless application to Harvard Law when everyone in the room knows the little moron got D's in community college last semester. You pose as supportive and friendly and pick up some buddy-points and it really doesn't matter fuck.
Rudy and his crack team of lawyers will look like shit on a stick in a few days with so much failure, but they will have accomplished their job.
They will have helped sow enough doubt that Trump's base will back contesting the election in every venue.
The only one left that could get interesting is when congress and the senate sit to certify electors.
Politico lays out the process, yet another one that has never been tested the way it will be this year.
Its worth a read.

 

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Texas AG Paxton filed the case because he's under indictment:
"Paxton has been under indictment since 2015 on securities fraud charges relating to activities prior to taking office; he has pleaded not guilty.[3][4] In October 2020, several high-level assistants in Paxton's office made allegations accusing him of "bribery, abuse of office and other crimes".[5][6][7]"
Thus by doing Trump's bidding in such a high profile public way he's getting on Trump's radar for a pardon.
The lawsuit is more bizarro than the usual meritless lawsuits.
 

Frankfooter

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Texas AG Paxton filed the case because he's under indictment:
"Paxton has been under indictment since 2015 on securities fraud charges relating to activities prior to taking office; he has pleaded not guilty.[3][4] In October 2020, several high-level assistants in Paxton's office made allegations accusing him of "bribery, abuse of office and other crimes".[5][6][7]"
Thus by doing Trump's bidding in such a high profile public way he's getting on Trump's radar for a pardon.
The lawsuit is more bizarro than the usual meritless lawsuits.
Can he get pardoned for crimes that are still in court?
Sounds like he's not that bright.
 

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It means that DO (D'oh) has nothing to rebut with, otherwise he'd use it.
Is that what you think every time someone quickly takes their leave from you at a social event? That they simply have no answer for your iron clad and forceful opinions? If so, you're missing the point.

What debate do you think I'm engaged with in this thread? My bet is that you don't even know.
 
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Is that what you think every time someone quickly takes their leave from you at a social event? That they simply have no answer for your iron clad and forceful opinions? If so, you're missing the point.

What debate do you think I'm engaged with in this thread? My bet is that you don't even know.
Dutch, my bet is that YOU don't even know what debate your engaged with in this thread.

But tell us again how the judges all got "laches" wrong and you got it right. That was a good one.
 
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