Scary Moments for Hobbyists

[Riverrunner28]

We commonly discuss the safety of the SPs here, and rightly so, but I have had some issues in the past. Some scary, some just not very comfortable. For information purposes, and maybe more for some good reading material, maybe we could share some past experiences, and it may help to avoid some in the future.

I can start with a relatively benign one. I used to visit 1 SP somewhat regularly, she felt comfortable to ask for some little gifts, which I enjoyed bringing to her. She also asked me, and probably all other hobbyists to park in an exact parking spot, I was thinking so that she would know I was there. Well, The last time I went, and this was at least a couple of years ago, the item that she always requested, was in the hands of a large AA man, who just slowly walked by my car, immediately after I parked. He gave me a pretty good look over, as he walked by, and then continued along the outside of the Motel, and turned around the corner. So, obviously, I am close to 100% sure that was more than a mere coincidence. I went in and finished quickly and left, never to contact her again. I should have also known before, because she would also sometimes get me to pick up some food for her, and I am pretty sure that she could not have eaten the amount of food that I brought her, weighing in at only about 110 pounds. I hope he enjoyed my gifts lol.

I'll share the machete one later

 

[kherg007]

Nice. The park in a special spot seems innocuous, and might be at times (so she knows you've arrived, and she can see you before you get in, in case she knows you).

But, it also can mean she can tell her BF who is the mark he has to intimidate, or to know to bust into the door in 10 minutes pretending he's caught her w another dude. Or to check your car for valuables cuz you'll be tied up for 30 or more minutes.

 

[Riverrunner28]

So the previous post was regarding the association with a handler (some may call a pimp). I visited one SP, and everything was going well, and I generally take my time. She was not being responsive, and generally just starfishing it. So I move lower and do some daty, and she really starts getting into it, and after just a minute or so, she is really getting excited. The pimp or boyfriend has another cardkey and bursts into the room, with a machete. He threatening me, of course I'm naked, I start putting my clothes on, of course I can't get the knots out of my shoes, to put them back on. He is also yelling, give me the rest of your money, I said I didn't have any more (but I did have another hundred or so. Anyway, I did look around as I was getting dressed, and I'm pretty sure there was a little nanny cam in front of the tv pointed at the bed. I guess he must have been watching the whole time, and when his girl started enjoying herself, may have gotten a little jealous.

 

[Riverrunner28]

Nice. The park in a special spot seems innocuous, and might be at times (so she knows you've arrived, and she can see you before you get in, in case she knows you).

But, it also can mean she can tell her BF who is the mark he has to intimidate, or to know to bust into the door in 10 minutes pretending he's caught her w another dude. Or to check your car for valuables cuz you'll be tied up for 30 or more minutes.

Yeah, I thought about the car break in, at the time, but I knew there was nothing valuable in there, so thought, if he wants to slimjim my lock, go for it, there's nothing to take lol.

 

[kherg007]

So the previous post was regarding the association with a handler (some may call a pimp). I visited one SP, and everything was going well, and I generally take my time. She was not being responsive, and generally just starfishing it. So I move lower and do some daty, and she really starts getting into it, and after just a minute or so, she is really getting excited. The pimp or boyfriend has another cardkey and bursts into the room, with a machete. He threatening me, of course I'm naked, I start putting my clothes on, of course I can't get the knots out of my shoes, to put them back on. He is also yelling, give me the rest of your money, I said I didn't have any more (but I did have another hundred or so. Anyway, I did look around as I was getting dressed, and I'm pretty sure there was a little nanny cam in front of the tv pointed at the bed. I guess he must have been watching the whole time, and when his girl started enjoying herself, may have gotten a little jealous.

Although that is a classic scam, the "boyfriend who catches his girlfriend in bed" thing. Sometimes it's her friends bursting in saying BF is coming....

 

[Riverrunner28]

Another girl was fully dressed in jeans, when I arrived. Not very common, but also not weird or anything. She asked me for the money, I gave it to her. I get undressed and she is slowly making it look like she is getting undressed. She asks me to wash my hands, which I always do anyway, and said I did, but she asks me to do it again. She had put all of her clothing back on, and said, you can masturbate if you want, but you can't touch me. A small debate happened, and anyway, I just figured I might as well just leave and chalk it up to one fifty dollar life lesson, and a good story lol.

 

[Inthemood]

I fell for the "specific" parking instructions as well.

When things started to get weird last March, LL got really quiet, but there was a week where a batch of newbies started to post. I ended up finding a gem of a girl called Katy. I was her first and possibly her last client. Tight, young French brunette that had lost her job in the restaurant biz. I couldn't believe my luck, had an awesome session at an Airbnb on Rideau.

The following week, the scammers seemed to come out. I tested my luck again with another promising ad. Located in a crap housing project on route to Barhaven, wouldn't give me the exact address right away. Made me call from a gas station, then gave me the directions. Called me twice in the 2 minute drive to her place and made sure that I parked in a very specific spot. So dumb of me in retrospect. Upon arrival I realized that the ad pics were VERY flattering...she was obviously into some heavy drugs as we met and chatted in the entrance to the house. I gave her a 50 dollar bill and thanked her for her time, but I wasn't going to stay. She freaked out and called for someone upstairs to come down then started showing me pictures on her phone of my license plate that she took while I parked.

I quickly gave her the rest of the agreed donation and booked it outta there before her backup came down.

I know that there are WAY worse stories that this, but it really affected me. Been sticking with my regular (Kelly White) mostly since. I don't seem to have the balls I had before this minor incident.

ITM

 

[Riverrunner28]

I fell for the "specific" parking instructions as well.

When things started to get weird last March, LL got really quiet, but there was a week where a batch of newbies started to post. I ended up finding a gem of a girl called Katy. I was her first and possibly her last client. Tight, young French brunette that had lost her job in the restaurant biz. I couldn't believe my luck, had an awesome session at an Airbnb on Rideau.

The following week, the scammers seemed to come out. I tested my luck again with another promising ad. Located in a crap housing project on route to Barhaven, wouldn't give me the exact address right away. Made me call from a gas station, then gave me the directions. Called me twice in the 2 minute drive to her place and made sure that I parked in a very specific spot. So dumb of me in retrospect. Upon arrival I realized that the ad pics were VERY flattering...she was obviously into some heavy drugs as we met and chatted in the entrance to the house. I gave her a 50 dollar bill and thanked her for her time, but I wasn't going to stay. She freaked out and called for someone upstairs to come down then started showing me pictures on her phone of my license plate that she took while I parked.

I quickly gave her the rest of the agreed donation and booked it outta there before her backup came down.

I know that there are WAY worse stories that this, but it really affected me. Been sticking with my regular (Kelly White) mostly since. I don't seem to have the balls I had before this minor incident.

ITM

Yeah, I switched hobbying practices. No more worries of these types.

 

[JohnnyFever]

I fell for the "specific" parking instructions as well.

When things started to get weird last March, LL got really quiet, but there was a week where a batch of newbies started to post. I ended up finding a gem of a girl called Katy. I was her first and possibly her last client. Tight, young French brunette that had lost her job in the restaurant biz. I couldn't believe my luck, had an awesome session at an Airbnb on Rideau.

The following week, the scammers seemed to come out. I tested my luck again with another promising ad. Located in a crap housing project on route to Barhaven, wouldn't give me the exact address right away. Made me call from a gas station, then gave me the directions. Called me twice in the 2 minute drive to her place and made sure that I parked in a very specific spot. So dumb of me in retrospect. Upon arrival I realized that the ad pics were VERY flattering...she was obviously into some heavy drugs as we met and chatted in the entrance to the house. I gave her a 50 dollar bill and thanked her for her time, but I wasn't going to stay. She freaked out and called for someone upstairs to come down then started showing me pictures on her phone of my license plate that she took while I parked.

I quickly gave her the rest of the agreed donation and booked it outta there before her backup came down.

I know that there are WAY worse stories that this, but it really affected me. Been sticking with my regular (Kelly White) mostly since. I don't seem to have the balls I had before this minor incident.

ITM

I never drive right up to an appointment. I always park at the closest strip mall, or some place a five minutes walk from where I'm going. You have to assume that any personal information like a plate number can be used to identify you. I don't take my wallet in either, just cash, and I never use my real number to set it up or use verification processes requiring proof of identity. I know why they're needed, but once that information is out of your control you're forever vulnerable to lost phones, hacks, etc.

 

[Sonic Temple]

...I went in and finished quickly and left, ....

Man - you went in after that as well. I would've said thanks but no thanks and drove away. Would've been too paranoid. You got bigger balls than me mate. Glad you are safe though. BTW River, great thread. Thanks for this as this is very helpful for me as I have been hobbyin' for just over 2.5 years.

 

[Riverrunner28]

I planned it as a teaching point to new hobbyists. Also, yeah, I had seen the SP a few times, and hadn't had a problem. So I kind of knew it should be okay.

 

[Riverrunner28]

Also, to SPs who may think that they are the only ones who are taking risks. There are risks on both sides with all due respect. But I must say the SP risks are more common, and higher level

 

[Mandalorian]

Wow, so many scammers. Best to stick with spas or established providers.

I’ve been lucky so far but one friend told me his story of responding to a LL ad, showing up at the incall motel, giving the money to the girl only to be told that she needs him to run out for condoms cuz she ran out and of course when he returns she’s gone.

 

[rhull]

For me, the moral of this thread is to go with established providers.

 

[Sagsuper]

I can list many incidents happened over last 7 to 8 years, guys dressed as girl with fake pics on ad, girl with her girl friend in room and kicking me out in 5 mins threatening with pepper spray!

recently, gave me a parking lot address which I thought was google maps error, den once der she gave new address. Once at her place, she want to finish up things with a covered bj, I said I paid for different service and she was not listening. I realized I need to leave, got the money from her desk which I paid and rushed out not before her bf stop me at entrance and threatening. Gave him about 50 in change and picked up my phone like calling cop, he left the spot! Went around and saw he parking on same lane. That ad was reported, but no use! Address she gave was 250 york st. She is still posting ads.

 

[Sagsuper]

My advice, verified ads, established provider, established agencies are the safe bet. Finally, no visits after 10 pm, never!

 

[Dcoat]

I never drive right up to an appointment. I always park at the closest strip mall, or some place a five minutes walk from where I'm going. You have to assume that any personal information like a plate number can be used to identify you. I don't take my wallet in either, just cash, and I never use my real number to set it up or use verification processes requiring proof of identity. I know why they're needed, but once that information is out of your control you're forever vulnerable to lost phones, hacks, etc.

Do you really think a verified provider will use that information against you? If they did, that info would get out in the open so whoever would go to them again? They'd be done and finished.

 

[gibarian]

Also, to SPs who may think that they are the only ones who are taking risks. There are risks on both sides with all due respect. But I must say the SP risks are more common, and higher level

You're drawing a bit of a false equivalency.

All the stories in this thread seemingly involve LeoList ads from unverified people who turned out to be unreliable or dangerous. The primary reasons clients follow through on those LeoList ads are a) to evade screening procedures, and b) to pay lower rates.

So, for the most part, the risks you're describing are voluntarily ones you've taken in order to gain advantages for yourself. That's different from the more universal , often institutionalized, risks that sex workers face. And it's harder to empathize with you getting ripped off because you wanted to save $50-100, or set up a date where you didn't have to verify your identity or make a deposit.

There's nothing wrong with sharing your stories in this thread, but stop trying to compare them to the risks SWs face. There's no reason for you to make that comparison. The thread works without doing it. And doing it minimizes the risks faced by SWs.

 

[Funlovingcanuck]

Some of these stories are mind blowing, my scary moment was getting an outcall and the girl got dropped off by two guys who hung around and waited for me to see her at the door. Not extreme but scared the crap out of me.


I think we need to bump that old list of safe ladies that we have experiences with. This way the real girls get the business and less scamming happens.

 

[Nesbot]

I mentioned one from a couple years ago that I posted here and you could probably find somewhere with a search.

Well reviewed lady here but has since dropped off the radar. Went to her incall, engaged in some activity but realized there was no way I could finish because I just wasn't feeling it.

Put my clothes on in record time. As soon as I get my shoes on. The door flies open with me behind it. I immediately scooted right past this stocky white guy as he was opening the door and he had no time to do what he wanted. Caught him off guard.

Another one that wasn't as intense because I didn't go. A stripper that I had fun with was also an SP. Figured I'd go see her when I starting seeing her ads. She ended up doing being involved in some very serious criminal activity a few times right around when I wanted to see her. Enough to scare me off.