Toronto in another lockdown. Are agencies in Toronto closing?

jcpro

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Quit spreading doom & gloom...and fear & panic re the economy.

There are more important issues at stake. Namely people's health & life.

Moreover BMO has forecasted a full recovery of the economy next year.

And, yes, many have been enjoying an all expenses paid holiday, courtesy of the Canadian government, from that 4 letter word "work".

Until, of course, the aforementioned "full recovery".

So the economy is not dead or destroyed, but sleeping & on holiday.
Sleeping?!!! Do you know what the "fixed costs" are? You post a lot on this subject, but you know nothing, that much is clear as day.
 
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lenny2

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Lockdown LTC homes and you reduce the number of covid deaths by 98%
Too late. But it's always easy to say what should have been done after the fact, e.g. I should have bet the house on the LA Rams last night.

And they're still dying there from C-19 even recently. How do you "lock them down" when they have health care workers coming & going into a society full of covidiots spreading the virus? You won't keep the virus out of those LTC homes. But if covidiots acted responsibly that would reduce the risk & deaths therein.


The economy is going to have an impact 1000 fold compared to the disease itself.
Nah the economy is just peachy keen. Canadians live in a first world nation with one of the highest qualities of life in the existence of history & one of the highest standards of living. Move to North Korea or Europe in the 14th century if you want to cry a river.
 

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If I was going to an in call appointment, how would authorities (bi-law officers) know that I was not visiting someone from my own household? I imagine the enforcement would be very difficult in a city as big as Toronto
By definition, people at a single household live in the same place, you cannot "visit" someone in your household.
 
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lenny2

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Fewer than 170 have died in Canada who live outside of LTC homes as of November 15th according to CTV News. These people would also be older with pre-existing conditions. Protect them and you suddenly have a 99.99% survival rate.
That's Canada alone. It's quite different in the USA & the world.


As of November 15, there were a total of 10,947 #COVID19 related deaths in Canada. 10,781 of those were in LTC homes. This is not an existential threat to the country.

With over 95% of Canada's 'COVID' deaths taking place in nursing homes this is not a pandemic of a deadly virus that is sickening and killing large numbers of people. This is death by natural causes being reframed as a pandemic This. Is. A. Fraud.


a confession from CTV news


start watching from 3:40 minutes

Are you plagiarizing again. See & compare your same comments with these:


As of November 15, there were a total of 10,947 #COVID19 related deaths in Canada. 10,781 of those were in LTC homes. This is not an existential threat to the country.
Are those stats documented anywhere? This states there are already 11,521 Canadian covid deaths:


In any case the high percentage of LTC numbers would not be surprising, if true, considering what has been previously reported. But the Canadian experience does not define covid or the global experience & the reality of this pandemic that has officially killed over 1.4 million, though probably closer to 2 million due to under reporting. Which would be 10X as many (20 million) without the extreme safety measures of lockdowns, etc, practiced & encouraged by health experts.. To suggest covid is not a "threat" is nonsense.

Consider also "A study published in the Journal of Public Health finds that for each person in the U.S. who died after contracting COVID-19, an average of nearly 10 years of life had been lost."

Even if that average is much less in Canada, it does not warrant an attitude that these deaths don't matter. It has been said society's value is shown in how it protects its most weak & vulnerable members. And in that regard consider its many abortions & how many years of life are lost to those murdered thereby.

Consider also this covid "threat":

"I was infected with coronavirus in March, six months on I’m still unwell

Charlie Russell, 27, is one of an estimated 600,000 people with post-Covid illness, a condition that may give an insight into ME

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...m-still-unwell

C-19 damaging the health of many survivors:

So your (plagiarized) claim that covid is "not sickening...large numbers of people" is nonsense. As is also the claim covid is not killing large numbers of people.

The excess death numbers all over the world prove your claim false that covid is just "death by natural causes" & "a fraud":

 
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Lockdown LTC homes and you reduce the number of covid deaths by 98%
And what is that going to do to help the 1,500 cases per day? It is not the LTC residents that are running around and spreading it.

Quoting only death rates is intentionally avoiding a larger segment of the problem. Are infection rates not important?
 

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That's not how the economy works. It doesn't go on pause, and expenses must be paid by someone. You're living in a commie fantasy world.


Is Hudson's Bay and all their employees (from minimum wage to high paid corporate 'C' suite and lawyers) on an enjoyable holiday now that the company is struggling to keep its doors open? Millions of people are in the same boat thanks to the lockdowns and commensurate fearmongering.
MrUnknown Hudson Bay has been a struggling company for many years now probably 2-3 years if not more.
They failed to attract online shoppers AKA millenials and that is the main reason they've been struggling for many years. I've said this before numerous times and early on in the pandemic, the economic effects of COVID will expose a lot of businesses specially those that were already struggling before COVID came AKA badly managed businesses and that is exactly the case with Hudson Bay Company.

I couldn't care for those businesses who have been struggling businesses before the pandemic, that have been reluctant or unwilling to pivot before or during these times, and thinking they should somehow be bailed out because of the pandemic for their own management failures, they will be back in the same situation again if they are relucant to change.
 
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All agencies remain open is such a disregard for people safety . Shame on them for stay open and spreading this virus. Same applies to UK when all agencies have remained open.
 
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As far as I can tell, business as usual with most/all agencies. Onus is on the girls and ourselves.

It's only in this context BTW that you realize "onus" and "anus" are so very close.
 

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Fucking agencies are brazen. I have some sympathy for the girls that choose to work. But I loathe the agencies for providing the platform and their total disregard for the health of the community.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Most condo buildings downtown dont allow visitors anymore.
So I guess incalls are fucked for now
 
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And what is that going to do to help the 1,500 cases per day? It is not the LTC residents that are running around and spreading it.

Quoting only death rates is intentionally avoiding a larger segment of the problem. Are infection rates not important?
Jesus H Christ! One year into this bullshit it it hasn't sank in, yet!!? CASES ARE NOT DEATHS. An outbreak at the LTC facility is a tragedy while an outbreak at a high school is a shrug of the shoulders. They are NOT the same. The framing of the public policies based on the infection rates is the moron's solution.
 

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Jesus H Christ! One year into this bullshit it it hasn't sank in, yet!!? CASES ARE NOT DEATHS.
I agree. That is my point.

It is the number of CASES that are driving the ongoing restrictions, not the number of DEATHS. The sooner that the number of cases comes down (like when we are in double digits in the summer and we had less restrictions) the sooner we can gradually return to normalcy.

Glad you finally get it. The others that don't, are totally selfish and/or ignorant morons. Clearly you are now not one of them.
 

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Jesus H Christ! One year into this bullshit it it hasn't sank in, yet!!? CASES ARE NOT DEATHS. An outbreak at the LTC facility is a tragedy while an outbreak at a high school is a shrug of the shoulders. They are NOT the same. The framing of the public policies based on the infection rates is the moron's solution.

X-Files;13330635 said:
The problems with this dangerous strategy is it failed in Sweden.

Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

"Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677"

High risk people can't "stay away" from others who are infected because they have to work, eat, get medicines, go to clinics & hospitals, live in care homes, & live together with others who are not high risk.
Ladeda;13331136 said:
To eat, shop, get meds they can use the designated hours already set up for them.
That won't keep them from being infected from others who are infected at places where they get food, groceries, medicine, clinical or hospital care. And many such places have no "designated hours".

Ladeda;13331136 said:
Hospitals and doctors would have the same precautions being used currently.
Clinics & hospitals are where high risk people & low risk people congregate. So your plan for them to "stay away" from each other is not going to work. It's going to fail on multiple fronts, in multiple places. Not only in clinics & hospitals, but in grocery stores, work places, sidewalks, public transit, long term care homes, people's personal residences, etc.

With your plan to let low risk people do whatever they please, even more of them will end up sick & in hospitals, clinics, pharmacies, etc, so even more risk for high risk people going to those places.

Ladeda;13331136 said:
As for work, tough call, I suppose if they can prove they are truly high risk, they should have option to not work and get unemployment, but at reduced rate, not inflated rate.
With many, if not the vast majority, of countries worldwide that is simply not available and or not an option governments are willing to implement.

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Obviously if in a home or where ever the nurse / aides would need to take precautions..
Yet deaths continue there even under stricter conditions than you would prefer. You would allow people to do whatever they please, putting those nurses at greater risk of infection, which means the high risk people under their care are at higher risk of death because of your irresponsibility.

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They don't need to eat at restaurants, go to sporting events, concerts until they feel safe. But why keep younger, healthier citizens from doing those things.
See above. What the irresponsible do in acting less safely affects others who are at high risk. Studies prove this. That's how pandemics work.

Furthermore if younger healthier people do whatever they want & get infected, many of them will get sick & fill up hospitals putting a strain on them & risking them being overwhelmed.

Ladeda;13331136 said:
They same politicians who impose the strictest restrictions even know it's safe to do those things if healthy, even if they try to trick the gullible into being scared to death.

-Newsom in Cali
-Whitmers husband in Mich
-Mayor Kenny in Philly
-Governor Murphy in NJ

All despite telling the citizens under their control that it's not safe to eat out. That is putting others in danger as well. Each of them has been caught eating out with their families against their guidelines.
What hypocrites do is irrelevant. Because person A says its wrong to murder but does it himself is not a justification for doing what is wrong or an excuse for you to do the same.

To err is human. We're all sinners.
 

lenny2

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It is the number of CASES that are driving the ongoing restrictions, not the number of DEATHS.
It's largely the concern re cases being left to skyrocket due to unsafe practices & covidiots hospitals & health workers will be overwhelmed leading to even more deaths. Additionally there is the concern re infections leading to long term ill health in survivors, which BTW is not good for the economy. See also my previous post in this thread.
 
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jcpro

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I agree. That is my point.

It is the number of CASES that are driving the ongoing restrictions, not the number of DEATHS. The sooner that the number of cases comes down (like when we are in double digits in the summer and we had less restrictions) the sooner we can gradually return to normalcy.

Glad you finally get it. The others that don't, are totally selfish and/or ignorant morons. Clearly you are now not one of them.
Facepalm. You have+/-20 deaths at 1800 cases. You can have the same amount with three times as many cases or as few. It's all about the demographics and locations. That is why all the wholesale lockdowns failed. Hence, the mortality/ICU occupancy must be the driving indicators and not the number of infections. Unless you advocate and implement the solitary confinement for every single person on this continent, stop the air travel and establish quarantine facilities for the future travellers, all your "solution" will manage to accomplish will be the utter and complete destruction of our way of life.
 

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Jesus H Christ! One year into this bullshit it it hasn't sank in, yet!!? CASES ARE NOT DEATHS. An outbreak at the LTC facility is a tragedy while an outbreak at a high school is a shrug of the shoulders. They are NOT the same. The framing of the public policies based on the infection rates is the moron's solution.
To COVIDIOTS it might not make sense but to anyone with a functioning brain it certainly makes sense.

11 months into this pandemic and it still hasn't yet sank in to the COVIDIOTS that the increase in cases specially exponential growth as is the case with COVID-19 will eventually lead to hospital systems (Ontario is at almost 90% capacity of ICU beds, Trillium health is at 101% capacity) being overburdened which will eventually lead to..................yes you can gues it UNNECESSARY & AVOIDABLE DEATHS
Which is what you and the rest have been unable to understand from the beginning.

Additionally if we do not take infection rates and cases into account we do not have enough staff to be able to combat the virus leading hospital staff to be overworked and that will have an effect on the care people who are hospitalized with positive COVID cases can receive, again all of this leads to UNNECESSARY & AVOIDABLE DEATHS.
Ontario is in that situation where hospital resources are at the tipping point of being strained due to selfish COVIDIOTS not caring, of course the same people who are claiming infection rates are not the solution will blame the government for the hospital systmes being overburdened.
What's also important to remember with Coronavirus the actions you take today will not be seen tomorrow as there is usually roughly a 14 day window before results are seen.
 
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