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Teachers Union Sabotaging Education

SammyS

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JohnLarue

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^^^^^Oh my kids are fine, they are in the education system. The question was if you had the choice which would you pick. Which is a stupid question when money is not a issue. Johnny imagine if you had gone to a private school you might have received the specialized support you needed to be okay now.
You made the statement
Too late to try and walk it back
It can not be one of the best in the world if it is not good enough for SammyS' kids
 

JohnLarue

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I agree, the debt should be addressed but you also want tax cuts... I don't think so.


You were all for increasing the debt 100 posts ago, now after seeing your cash cow might default you change your slow moving mind
Debt burden & Tax burden have both been driven up by union greed and are both issues which need to be addressed

So if you are willing to give up a % of your extorted compensation for debt reduction, why not for tax cuts ?


You response is moot as you & your unions do not get to determine taxation policy.
that is reserved for elected officials who must consider the interests of all parties, not by self serving unions who Do not give a shit about anyone but themselves.
Let me repeat YOU DO NOT GET TO MAKE TAXATION POLICY
 

JohnLarue

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^^^^^Where is your proof that tax burden is a HUGE problem???

The average Canadian Family spends more on taxes than on Food, Shelter and Food combined

And they a accumulating unsustainable debt to cover the shortfall

Cold hard facts


The unions do not get to determine taxation policy as they are not elected
^^^^^Individuals don't get to determine taxation policy either Johnny


No,Individuals do not, the elected officials do , however the consumer debt burden will precipitate a crisis. (a mathematical certainty if debt accumulation continues ) which will force the politicians to dial back taxation
Justin
desperately would love to further increases taxes, but he has been told he can not , so he foolishly borrows without restraint before the pandemic and since ...... Yikes !
 

JohnLarue

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Reading Johnny's messages is unsustainable. The debt is unsustainable but tax burden??? Can you show me the data that backs up this claim??? I seem to be doing fine.
You are doing fine, so all must be good ?

How many times does it have to explained to you?
Your family income is 108% higher than the average Canadian Family income (excessive beyond any rational)
Imaging cutting your income in half + a bit , would you be fine then?

Your just far too self absorbed to view anything objectively
&
You are void of any ethics

If parents could see what you have posted here, they would not let their kids anywhere near you
now slither away
 

Frankfooter

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You made the statement
Too late to try and walk it back
It can not be one of the best in the world if it is not good enough for SammyS' kids
I find hilarious that larue is a hard core capitalist for every job in existence except for teachers.
Every other single job is totally about making money and as much as can.
But he thinks teachers have to be only in it to make his brats less annoying.
 

SammyS

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You made the statement
Too late to try and walk it back
It can not be one of the best in the world if it is not good enough for SammyS' kids

Quite a few reoccurring themes with Johnny and this is one of them!!!
 

SammyS

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You were all for increasing the debt 100 posts ago, now after seeing your cash cow might default you change your slow moving mind

^^^^I've always said the same f....king thing but when I mentioned I don't agree with tax cuts you did this!!!

Debt burden & Tax burden have both been driven up by union greed and are both issues which need to be addressed

^^^^^LOL... we know what Johnny has been into!!!

So if you are willing to give up a % of your extorted compensation for debt reduction, why not for tax cuts ?

How stupid is that???? You want to reduce debt but you want to give take cuts!!! Wow!!!
Does that make any sense???
Johnny's math... reducing debt
10 (the debt)
-2 (cut backs)
+4 (tax cuts)
_____________

Do you know what the final total is Johnny... obviously math is not your strong point!!!

You response is moot as you & your unions do not get to determine taxation policy.

^^^^Johnny in the blue... his friend Boomber in the red!!!
^^^^LOL and guess what Johnny doesn't get to decide tax policy either!!!

that is reserved for elected officials who must consider the interests of all parties, not by self serving unions who Do not give a shit about anyone but themselves.

Let me repeat YOU DO NOT GET TO MAKE TAXATION POLICY
 

SammyS

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The average Canadian Family spends more on taxes than on Food, Shelter and Food combined
And they a accumulating unsustainable debt to cover the shortfall

^^^^^Well they need to budget then because I'm not having that problem.
And average Canadian Family spends more on taxes than on Food, Shelter and Food combined (even though that is Fraser report) who the f....k cares... we have the highest Quality of Life in the world!!!
No,Individuals do not, the elected officials do , however the consumer debt burden will precipitate a crisis. (a mathematical certainty if debt accumulation continues ) which will force the politicians to dial back taxation
^^^^^And I already showed that consumer debt has gone done since Covid which really just proves that families are not budgeting their money.... thank you!!!

Justin desperately would love to further increases taxes, but he has been told he can not , so he foolishly borrows without restraint before the pandemic and since ...... Yikes !

^^^^^Wow... what planet do you live on??? We are in a global (which means the whole world Johnny) pandemic and the government is spending a shit load of money to make sure families make it through this shit without any hardship.

^^^^^Does Johnny land on his feet in this debate... the odds are NOT in his favor!!!

^^^^^Still not doing well...

^^^^^How successful is Johnny... LOL
 

Boober69

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So keeping students out of school is acceptable if it happens every four years?
^^^^^Are students kept out of school every four years??? No they're not!!!
Why would that be acceptable any time?
^^^^^It's not acceptable any time... the government should negotiate with teachers.
So students can lose out on education because teachers want to get more money? hahahaha that's your argument?
^^^^^Students usually lose out on extracurricular activities which teachers don't get paid for... maybe we should start negotiating for more pay for that... thanks I'll bring that up at the next union meeting!!!
Not every 4 years, but you are forgetting about work-to-rule tactics that usually kick in before a strike.
Either way, using students as pawns in negotiations is cowardly and one of the many reasons why unions ultimately hurt education.
The union's "negotiation" is usually out of touch with reality. Asking for way too much or else the kids are on the street. That's not a negotiation...that's a hostage situation.
Extracarricular activites come with the job. Don't like that? Find another job like other people do when they don't like something about their current job.
And losing extracurricular activities essentially punishes kids just because the union wants to put pressure on negotiations. Which proves my point about using students as pawns and bargaining chips.
You should be ashamed of yourselves. No wonder public opinion is leaning towards the realization of the sense of entitlement teachers have.
But keep going...it's to the union's own detriment.
 

Boober69

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Good example of a school that has chosen which students they want to take and can charge accordingly.
Thanks for making my point.
You said that private schools can refuse kids on the spectrum and I showed you one example of a private school that accepts kids on the spectrum.

The only point you made was that you are good at tap dancing.
 

SammyS

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How many times does it have to explained to you?
Your family income is 108% higher than the average Canadian Family income (excessive beyond any rational)
Imaging cutting your income in half + a bit , would you be fine then?
^^^^^Yes we would be fine... I would just sell one of the houses... but I would definitely keep the cottage!!!

Your just far too self absorbed to view anything objectively
&
You are void of any ethics
^^^^^LOL... and Johnny I already told you this a number of times when you acted like this when we talked about tax cuts...

There is not way we're going to have a responsible conversation

If parents could see what you have posted here, they would not let their kids anywhere near you

^^^^^And once again when Johnny thinks of what he could have had as a teacher he gets upset. Some key traits you might be lacking... patient, caring, good listening (OMG definitely), collaboration (holly shit, good luck finding that in Johnny), adaptable, engaging (another trait which would be very hard for you to achieve), empathy, building relationships (another stumbling block for Johnny) and being a life long learner!!!

now slither away

^^^^^Again Johnny trying to find tax cuts and reducing the debt (I know pretty stupid...)
 

SammyS

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Not every 4 years, but you are forgetting about work-to-rule tactics that usually kick in before a strike.
Either way, using students as pawns in negotiations is cowardly and one of the many reasons why unions ultimately hurt education.
The union's "negotiation" is usually out of touch with reality. Asking for way too much or else the kids are on the street. That's not a negotiation...that's a hostage situation.
Extracarricular activites come with the job. Don't like that? Find another job like other people do when they don't like something about their current job.
And losing extracurricular activities essentially punishes kids just because the union wants to put pressure on negotiations. Which proves my point about using students as pawns and bargaining chips.
But keep going...it's to the union's own detriment.
Then move down to the states Boomber if you want unions that are not as strong... and do you know what you are going to get for schooling???


You should be ashamed of yourselves. No wonder public opinion is leaning towards the realization of the sense of entitlement teachers have.
^^^^^LOL... you've obviously been spending too much time with Johnny in his Lalaland. Public opinion supports teachers hands down.

Asking for way too much or else the kids are on the street.
Any parent would support the stance we took against the government trying to better education for Ontarian students!!!


^^^^^In regards to pay and benefits we were hardly looking for anything!!!


^^^^We were just fighting to make education better for kids!!!
 

Boober69

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^^^^We were just fighting to make education better for kids!!!
...by keeping them out of school, limiting their extracurricular programs, working to rule, and using students as bargaining chips. It's not about education. You're not fooling anyone.
 

SammyS

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You said that private schools can refuse kids on the spectrum and I showed you one example of a private school that accepts kids on the spectrum.

Might be accepting them Boomber but how much does it cost???
 

Boober69

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Might be accepting them Boomber but how much does it cost???
So you are in agreement which confirms Frankfooter is mistaken. Thanks for settling that one.

Cost is relative. How much do you want to invest in the best education available for your child?
 

SammyS

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limiting their extracurricular programs,
LOL... are you copying what Johnny boy said... we're stripping them of their innocence!!!


 

Boober69

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LOL... are you copying what Johnny boy said... we're stripping them of their innocence!!!
No idea what you are talking about.

You are the one that mentioned extracurricular activities.
Why take away things students like just to fuel your greedy union demands?

Oh right...because it's all about education. Lol....you're not fooling anyone.
 

SammyS

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So you are in agreement which confirms Frankfooter is mistaken. Thanks for settling that one.

^^^^^Wow conversations with Boomber are interesting!!!

How much do you want to invest in the best education available for your child?
Thank you for agreeing with us and not Johnny. Public school teachers are not asking for to much and are not being greedy they are fighting so that student receive the best education they can get!!!
Totally agree with you Boomber!!!
 
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