You tried???
"Screw you, I want my raise" ,
"Elementary students are much better negotiating pawns than high school students... That screws the parents around more"
"I do not give a shit about the employer",
Teachers Union Sabotaging Education
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You think no public schools have those things?
You think public school students don't have laptops/computers?
SammyS stated that given the choice, he would send his kids to a private school.
That pretty much ends the argument and exposes his hypocrisy.
You think no public schools have those things?
You think public school students don't have laptops/computers?
^^^^Not very many schools have pools... none in my Board. And private schools would be WAY more advanced with their technology.
SammyS stated that given the choice, he would send his kids to a private school.
That pretty much ends the argument and exposes his hypocrisy.
^^^^Private schools HUGE advantage is that almost all of their students come from above average families. I want the best thing for my kids. Where are they going to get more individual attention??? At a private school or a public school (public schools have WAY more high needs kids)???
Wanting the best education for kids is the reason why private schools are chosen. The best education. Thanks for proving my point.
That's why you said that given the choice you would even send your kids to private school.
And I don't think you would spend the money because they have a swimming pool (and most don't anyway).
Private school education is better because the teachers are better.
Why are the teachers better?
Because they are not unionized and are there based on their skills and not based on their tenure.
You tried???
"Screw you, I want my raise" ,
"Elementary students are much better negotiating pawns than high school students... That screws the parents around more"
"I do not give a shit about the employer",
so you think a puppet show fixes your unforgivable, despicable and self absorbed attitude?
How to ruin a world-class education system
Canada’s public schools are the envy of the world. On OECD’s international PISA test results, Canada consistently ranks in the top dozen countries. Apart from Ireland and the city-state of Singapore, it is the highest performer among all English- and French-speaking nations.
But suppose you don’t want a strong public system(like Johnny and Boomber). Suppose you seek inspiration from fading, imperial England, or the chaotically imperious U.S. Suppose, like them, you see public schools as means to save money, release tax dollars and create market opportunities that will mostly benefit the wealthy.
^^^^^Definitely Johnny
Politicians love a crisis. The pandemic is a perfect one. If they wish, governments can keep people constantly off-balance, distracted by hokey-pokey, back-to-school strategies that are online, offline, online and offline, back to school, then back home again, in constantly shifting conditions. As Winston Churchill once said, “Never waste a good crisis.” So here’s what to do.
1. Undermine public confidence
Don’t copy most Scandinavian countries, New Zealand, Scotland or South Korea, who have mainly had smooth return-to-school strategies that governments and teacher unions introduced together. Instead, like Ontario or Alberta, make last minute announcements, without unions’ involvement. This will provoke a reaction from unions and make them look unreasonable. It will also leave teachers underprepared. Meanwhile, underfund back-to-school arrangements so that classes are large, conditions are unsatisfactory and parents grow increasingly frustrated.
2. Create private alternatives
When people feel trapped, show them an exit route. Allow and encourage pods to be created by economically advantaged parents who are understandably fearful about their children’s health. After the pandemic, make these options permanent. Plant opinion pieces in the media that promote charter schools and private schools (Boomber will love this one) as alternatives to “like-it-or-lump-it” government schools. Pass legislation to introduce charter schools or expand their number. Ignore evidence from England, the U.S. and Alberta that charter schools don’t outperform regular public schools. Hide the fact that, elsewhere, charter schools often reap significant profits for their tax-subsidized private owners. And don’t mention Sweden. After it introduced “free” schools, the largest group of owners turned out to be hedge fund companies. Sweden also experienced the biggest decline on PISA results of any country in the world.
3. Misuse technology
Expand technology aggressively after the pandemic. Enrich technology companies by extending the educational market as much as possible. Mandate online learning to reduce the number of teachers and increase profits for Big Tech. Don’t implement technology in a prudent, balanced and evidence-based way to enrich and extend great teaching and learning. Use it to flood schools with devices and replace that teaching.
4. Impose austerity
After the pandemic is over, ignore experts like Heather Boushey, economic adviser to Joe Biden. She says that austerity is not inevitable and that public sector investment actually protects jobs and increases consumer spending. Chrystia Freeland said much the same in her 2012 book, Plutocrats. Impose brutal cutbacks. Pay no attention to what happened when, in 2012, Kansas’s notorious Governor Brownback introduced austerity measures and the largest tax cuts in the state’s history. Literacy and mathematics results plummeted from being above the national average to falling into the bottom 25 per cent.
5. Mortgage the future
Make your decisions on a short horizon. Ignore how our world is falling off its axis. Disregard how strong public education systems improve the future.
Implement this plan, and public education will turn a tidy profit for the wealthy. It will amplify private gain. After people wise up, they will vote you out, of course. But don’t worry. You and your plutocratic peers will reap your financial rewards for a long time after.
However, if you see the light, a better future awaits. Invest resources to help vulnerable students catch up and heal after the pandemic. Plan responses collaboratively with teachers and their associations. Learn from the pandemic where technology can add unique value to young people’s education.
Don’t waste one good crisis by creating another. Transform education for public good, not for private profit that rewards the wealthy few.
Andy Hargreaves is director of CHENINE (Change, Engagement & Innovation in Education) at the University of Ottawa. Michael Fullan OC is professor emeritus at OISE, University of Toronto.
Canada’s public schools are the envy of the world. On OECD’s international PISA test results, Canada consistently ranks in the top dozen countries. Apart from Ireland and the city-state of Singapore, it is the highest performer among all English- and French-speaking nations.
But suppose you don’t want a strong public system(like Johnny and Boomber). Suppose you seek inspiration from fading, imperial England, or the chaotically imperious U.S. Suppose, like them, you see public schools as means to save money, release tax dollars and create market opportunities that will mostly benefit the wealthy.
^^^^^Definitely Johnny
Politicians love a crisis. The pandemic is a perfect one. If they wish, governments can keep people constantly off-balance, distracted by hokey-pokey, back-to-school strategies that are online, offline, online and offline, back to school, then back home again, in constantly shifting conditions. As Winston Churchill once said, “Never waste a good crisis.” So here’s what to do.
1. Undermine public confidence
Don’t copy most Scandinavian countries, New Zealand, Scotland or South Korea, who have mainly had smooth return-to-school strategies that governments and teacher unions introduced together. Instead, like Ontario or Alberta, make last minute announcements, without unions’ involvement. This will provoke a reaction from unions and make them look unreasonable. It will also leave teachers underprepared. Meanwhile, underfund back-to-school arrangements so that classes are large, conditions are unsatisfactory and parents grow increasingly frustrated.
2. Create private alternatives
When people feel trapped, show them an exit route. Allow and encourage pods to be created by economically advantaged parents who are understandably fearful about their children’s health. After the pandemic, make these options permanent. Plant opinion pieces in the media that promote charter schools and private schools (Boomber will love this one) as alternatives to “like-it-or-lump-it” government schools. Pass legislation to introduce charter schools or expand their number. Ignore evidence from England, the U.S. and Alberta that charter schools don’t outperform regular public schools. Hide the fact that, elsewhere, charter schools often reap significant profits for their tax-subsidized private owners. And don’t mention Sweden. After it introduced “free” schools, the largest group of owners turned out to be hedge fund companies. Sweden also experienced the biggest decline on PISA results of any country in the world.
3. Misuse technology
Expand technology aggressively after the pandemic. Enrich technology companies by extending the educational market as much as possible. Mandate online learning to reduce the number of teachers and increase profits for Big Tech. Don’t implement technology in a prudent, balanced and evidence-based way to enrich and extend great teaching and learning. Use it to flood schools with devices and replace that teaching.
4. Impose austerity
After the pandemic is over, ignore experts like Heather Boushey, economic adviser to Joe Biden. She says that austerity is not inevitable and that public sector investment actually protects jobs and increases consumer spending. Chrystia Freeland said much the same in her 2012 book, Plutocrats. Impose brutal cutbacks. Pay no attention to what happened when, in 2012, Kansas’s notorious Governor Brownback introduced austerity measures and the largest tax cuts in the state’s history. Literacy and mathematics results plummeted from being above the national average to falling into the bottom 25 per cent.
5. Mortgage the future
Make your decisions on a short horizon. Ignore how our world is falling off its axis. Disregard how strong public education systems improve the future.
Implement this plan, and public education will turn a tidy profit for the wealthy. It will amplify private gain. After people wise up, they will vote you out, of course. But don’t worry. You and your plutocratic peers will reap your financial rewards for a long time after.
However, if you see the light, a better future awaits. Invest resources to help vulnerable students catch up and heal after the pandemic. Plan responses collaboratively with teachers and their associations. Learn from the pandemic where technology can add unique value to young people’s education.
Don’t waste one good crisis by creating another. Transform education for public good, not for private profit that rewards the wealthy few.
Andy Hargreaves is director of CHENINE (Change, Engagement & Innovation in Education) at the University of Ottawa. Michael Fullan OC is professor emeritus at OISE, University of Toronto.
Unbelievable
The money grubbing union rep public sector teacher wants the best for his kids via private schooling
Yet he would fight tooth and nail to prevent privatization of the public education system in Ontario and deny the best thing for all other kids
and he has the god damn nerve to promote this bullshit rhetoric
The public education system in Ontario will not survive this union
Fair warning the paracite does not survive when he host dies
I hope my puppet shows convey to you that I don't really give a sh...t what you say. You don't listen to anybody it's just me, me, me. Cut debt and taxes. Average Canadian families are doomed but hey we're #1 for Quality of Life in the World.
^^^^Okay I know that's not going to happen but one thing teachers have to possess with students like Johnny is hope.
Your lack of understanding of the word unsustainable is not an excuse for you compulsive and never ending greed nor does it excuse your despicable use of students as negotiating pawns.
Why is someone who does not understand the word unsustainable teaching our kids?
Why is someone who's primary motivation is wealth accumulation teaching our kids ?
Why is someone who's wants private school for his kids teaching our kids in the public school system ?
I have forgotten more than you will ever understand
Learn some god damn ethics before lecturing me on anything
Now slither away
^^^^Johnny you're still jerking off to the idea of using students as pawns. Show me that data then that shows the negative impact that students have because of negotiations between unions and governments. God it only happens once every four years. But like the "Average Canadian Family", students in Ontario are doomed... DOOMED I say!!! So stupid!!!
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Pretty fucked up that you are now blaming people's spending habits on teachers. Even your argument saying we need to eliminate the debt by cutting your taxes made more sense.
So keeping students out of school is acceptable if it happens every four years? Why would that be acceptable any time?
So students can lose out on education because teachers want to get more money? hahahaha that's your argument?
And once again your lack of comprehension shows up
You can stow away the cancel culture garbage
This is about the unsustainable tax burden on the average family & the unsustainable government debt
It is not about my taxes (for the 30+ time)
Spending habits?
How is spending more on taxes than food clothing and shelter a habit?
No choice in the matter
If you want to see fucked up - your pal SammyS, the union Rep teacher admitted he prefers private school for his kids.
All that bullshit about delivering top quality education - good enough for everyone's else's Kids , but not good enough for his kids???
It does not get more fucked up than that
How to ruin a world-class education system?
Allow self serving unions to become involved
