Joe Biden just destroyed one of Trump's biggest attack lines

[Boober69]

Oh, so then you lied... 'muricans ARE OK with having their government tell them what to do?
Once again, you invalidate your own argument.
Go take a nap, seems like you need it.

I guess this is the part where you scramble when you realize you are losing the argument and just start inventing things you think I said right? Right.

Show me where I said Americans do not follow the law.

The law is different than recommendations.

Keep trying...it's not working for you...but it is really entertaining.

 

[Frankfooter]

The law is different than recommendations.

Keep trying...it's not working for you...but it is really entertaining.

Trump convinced you that the news is fake, Putin is a swell guy, chloroquinine cures cancer, windmills cause cancer, you can stop hurricanes with nukes, hiring your children and their spouses is good business, tax fraud is good business, hiring crooks who get caught just means the justice system is biased and that orange makeup makes you look really cool.

So why couldn't he convince the rest of the country to wear a mask during a pandemic?

 

[Boober69]

Because your moron, Trump, pushed him aside and told them to drink disinfectant, open up their businesses and not wear masks.



No, your own quotes showed that Trump is a racist but the ban on China wasn't labelled as racist.
That's what you showed us.

Trump screwed the pooch because he wanted to make a trade deal with China.
Now 160,000 Americans are dead.

There were three logical steps to consider after suspending travel from China. The first was suspending travel from Europe. By Jan. 21, Trump’s advisers knew the virus was in France. By Jan. 31, they knew it had reached Italy, Germany, Finland, and the United Kingdom. From conversations with European governments, they also knew that these governments, apart from Italy, weren’t going to block travel from China. And they were directly informed that the flow of passengers from Europe to the United States far exceeded the normal flow of passengers from China to the United States. Trump’s deputy national security adviser, Matthew Pottinger, pleaded for a ban on travel from Europe, but other advisers said this would hurt the economy in an election year. Trump, persuaded by Pottinger’s opponents, refused to go along.

So you mean Democrats and Trump-haters listened to Trump rather than Fauci and got sick? Why? I thought they think Trump doesn't know what he's talking about...why would they listen to him?

The correct answer is that they don't listen to anyone.

Biden even accused Trump as being xenophobic when proposing the China ban as your article conveniently overlooks.

Be honest...the pandemic would have played out the same for any president in the US...you're just using it to bash Trump as usual. It's as simple as that. You're arguments hold no water.

 

[Frankfooter]

So you mean Democrats and Trump-haters listened to Trump rather than Fauci and got sick? Why? I thought they think Trump doesn't know what he's talking about...why would they listen to him?

The correct answer is that they don't listen to anyone.

Check the stats for once boob, dems have been listening to Fauci and Trumptards to their impeached conman leader.
Who do you think is leading all those anti-mask protests, dems?

The third and most important step was to test the population to see whether the virus was spreading domestically. That was the policy of South Korea, the global leader in case detection. Like the United States, South Korea had identified its first case on Jan. 20. But from there, the two countries diverged. By Feb. 3 South Korea had expanded its testing program, and by Feb. 27 it was checking samples from more than 10,000 people a day. The U.S. program, hampered by malfunctions and bureaucratic conflict, was nowhere near that. By mid-February, it was testing only about 100 samples a day. As a result, few infections were being detected.


Fauci saw this as a grave vulnerability. From Feb. 14 to March 11, he warned in a dozen hearings, forums, and interviews that the virus might be spreading “under the radar.” But Trump wasn’t interested. He liked having a low infection count—he bragged about it at rallies—and he understood that the official count would stay low if people weren’t tested. Trump had been briefed on the testing situation since late January and knew test production was delayed. But he insisted that “anybody that wants a test can get a test” and that “the tests are all perfect.” Later, he brushed off the delay in test production and said it had been “quickly remedied.” He complained that additional tests, by exposing additional cases, made him “look bad.”

To keep the numbers low, Trump was willing to risk lives. He figured that infections didn’t count if they were offshore, so he tried to prevent infected Americans from setting foot on American soil. In mid-February, even as he refused to bar Europeans from entering the United States, he exploded in anger when more than a dozen infected Americans were allowed to return from Japan. “I hated to do it, statistically,” he told Hannity. “You know, is it going to look bad?” In March, he opposed a decision to let passengers off a cruise ship in California. “I’d rather have the people stay” offshore, he explained, “because I like the numbers being where they are. I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship.”

When the spread of the virus in the United States could no longer be denied, Trump called it the “invisible enemy.” But Trump had kept it invisible. The CDC would later acknowledge that due to woefully insufficient testing, the overwhelming majority of infections had gone undiagnosed. Models would show that by mid-February, there were hundreds of undetected infections in the United States for every known case. By the end of the month, there were thousands.

 

[Boober69]

Check the stats for once boob, dems have been listening to Fauci and Trumptards to their impeached conman leader.
Who do you think is leading all those anti-mask protests, dems?

The third and most important step was to test the population to see whether the virus was spreading domestically. That was the policy of South Korea, the global leader in case detection. Like the United States, South Korea had identified its first case on Jan. 20. But from there, the two countries diverged. By Feb. 3 South Korea had expanded its testing program, and by Feb. 27 it was checking samples from more than 10,000 people a day. The U.S. program, hampered by malfunctions and bureaucratic conflict, was nowhere near that. By mid-February, it was testing only about 100 samples a day. As a result, few infections were being detected.
Fauci saw this as a grave vulnerability. From Feb. 14 to March 11, he warned in a dozen hearings, forums, and interviews that the virus might be spreading “under the radar.” But Trump wasn’t interested. He liked having a low infection count—he bragged about it at rallies—and he understood that the official count would stay low if people weren’t tested. Trump had been briefed on the testing situation since late January and knew test production was delayed. But he insisted that “anybody that wants a test can get a test” and that “the tests are all perfect.” Later, he brushed off the delay in test production and said it had been “quickly remedied.” He complained that additional tests, by exposing additional cases, made him “look bad.”
To keep the numbers low, Trump was willing to risk lives. He figured that infections didn’t count if they were offshore, so he tried to prevent infected Americans from setting foot on American soil. In mid-February, even as he refused to bar Europeans from entering the United States, he exploded in anger when more than a dozen infected Americans were allowed to return from Japan. “I hated to do it, statistically,” he told Hannity. “You know, is it going to look bad?” In March, he opposed a decision to let passengers off a cruise ship in California. “I’d rather have the people stay” offshore, he explained, “because I like the numbers being where they are. I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship.”
When the spread of the virus in the United States could no longer be denied, Trump called it the “invisible enemy.” But Trump had kept it invisible. The CDC would later acknowledge that due to woefully insufficient testing, the overwhelming majority of infections had gone undiagnosed. Models would show that by mid-February, there were hundreds of undetected infections in the United States for every known case. By the end of the month, there were thousands.

Your article is bs, from a bs source based on nothing other than speculation and political bias.

Show me a realiable source that tracks infections to political leanings if you believe Democrats listened to Fauci instead of Trump.

Maybe you should put more scrutiny on China for lying to the world rather than giving them a pass and blaming only people you don't like in retrospect.

 

[y2kmark]

Justin is on track for a majority and Trump is on track to lose everything and put the GOP in the woods for decades.
For you to complain about scandals up here while defending Trump is hilarious.

So much can happen in the next 3 months, but "the GOP in the woods for decades" has a nice ring to it. Even though a lot of the "woods' around here are in NY 27...

 

[toguy5252]

Your article is bs, from a bs source based on nothing other than speculation and political bias.

Show me a realiable source that tracks infections to political leanings if you believe Democrats listened to Fauci instead of Trump.

Maybe you should put more scrutiny on China for lying to the world rather than giving them a pass and blaming only people you don't like in retrospect.

Maybe you should come up with a better defense of the chosen one. Everyone knw in January that the virus was here or coming. The chosen one dismissed the doctors and scientists and his recipe was happy talk and trying to talk up the stock market. It would be easier to take you serious if you actually had something relevant to say.

 

[Boober69]

Maybe you should come up with a better defense of the chosen one. Everyone knw in January that the virus was here or coming. The chosen one dismissed the doctors and scientists and his recipe was happy talk and trying to talk up the stock market. It would be easier to take you serious if you actually had something relevant to say.

Maybe next time you won't call him a racist for trying to restrict travel from China. That was Jan 31st.
Your rage is misdirected.
China lied about everything which caused the virus to spread early on. Somehow, that's Trump's fault?

At least have the courage to just admit that you would blame him regardless. Why are you afraid of admitting that?

 

[Frankfooter]

Your article is bs, from a bs source based on nothing other than speculation and political bias.

That article is incredibly well researched and accurate, with direct links to everything they claim and quote.
Your response is typical of a Trumptard, you attack the messenger because you can't defend a single point made in that article.

Tell you what, if you can read that article and show they made false claims I'll take it back and not post from that source anymore.
If you can't, you will admit they are a legit news source and never criticize articles from them again.
If you refuse, I'll continue to criticize you as afraid of the facts and a total bullshitter.

Good luck.

How Trump Killed Tens of Thousands of Americans

A blow-by-blow account of his personal role in the coronavirus catastrophe.

slate.com

 

[toguy5252]

Maybe next time you won't call him a racist for trying to restrict travel from China. That was Jan 31st.
Your rage is misdirected.
China lied about everything which caused the virus to spread early on. Somehow, that's Trump's fault?

At least have the courage to just admit that you would blame him regardless. Why are you afraid of admitting that?

Did I call him a racist?

 

[Frankfooter]

Maybe next time you won't call him a racist for trying to restrict travel from China. That was Jan 31st.
Your rage is misdirected.
China lied about everything which caused the virus to spread early on. Somehow, that's Trump's fault?

At least have the courage to just admit that you would blame him regardless. Why are you afraid of admitting that?

Trump is accused of being a racist for lots of other reasons, there's so much to back up that claim, but the ban on travel from China wasn't one of them.
China lied but Trump had all the intel way in advance to know what was going on.
He ignored it because he was trying to make trade deals and didn't want to piss them off, so he praised Xi repeatedly.
After that Trump just lied his face off about the virus on his own and made way more and way more intentional mistakes.

 

[Boober69]

Trump is accused of being a racist for lots of other reasons, there's so much to back up that claim, but the ban on travel from China wasn't one of them.
China lied but Trump had all the intel way in advance to know what was going on.
He ignored it because he was trying to make trade deals and didn't want to piss them off, so he praised Xi repeatedly.
After that Trump just lied his face off about the virus on his own and made way more and way more intentional mistakes.

From your response:
"China lied"

That's all anyone needs to know. You gloss over it like it was a minor detail. They didn't just lie to the US...they lied to the world.

Couple that with Trump-hater's default slanted views mixed with subjective opinions and biased news and what you have is nothing. You should be praising Trump for trying to keep the massive US population calm, knowing that most Americans don't trust or listen to the government. Do you want a leader to cause panic?

I think everyone here has seen the lengths you go to for defending people you like...you do the exact opposite for people you don't.

Predictable double standard. Which is why no one takes you seriously unfortunately.

 

[Frankfooter]

From your response:
"China lied"

That's all anyone needs to know. You gloss over it like it was a minor detail. They didn't just lie to the US...they lied to the world.

Trump has lied 20,000 times and you haven't cared about that.
Hypocrite.

Trump let China lie because he was in trade talks and now 160,000 Americans are dead.
You gloss over that and excuse the deaths repeatedly.

In early January, Trump was warned about a deadly new virus in China. He was also told that the Chinese government was understating the outbreak. (See this timeline for a detailed chronology of what Trump knew and when he knew it.) This was inconvenient, because Trump was about to sign a lucrative trade deal with Beijing. “We have a great relationship with China right now, so I don’t want to speak badly of anyone,” Trump told Laura Ingraham in a Fox News interview on Jan. 10. He added that he was looking forward to a second deal with Xi. When Ingraham asked about China’s violations of human rights, Trump begged off. “I’m riding a fine line because we’re making … great trade deals,” he pleaded.

President Donald Trump signs a trade agreement with Chinese Vice Premier Liu He in the East Room of the White House on Jan. 15. Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post via Getty Images
Trump signed the deal on Jan. 15. He lauded Xi and said previous American presidents, not Xi, were at fault for past troubles between the two countries. Three days later, Alex Azar, Trump’s secretary of health and human services, phoned him with an update on the spread of the novel coronavirus. On Jan. 21, the CDC announced the first infection in the United States. Two of the government’s top health officials—Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases—said the virus was beginning to circulate around the world.

Trump would later claim that he saw from the outset how grim the situation was. That was clear, he recalled, in the “initial numbers coming out from China.” But at the time, he told Americans everything was fine. “We’re in great shape,” he assured Maria Bartiromo in a Fox Business interview on Jan. 22. “China’s in good shape, too.” He preferred to talk about trade instead. “The China deal is amazing, and we’ll be starting Phase Two very soon,” he said. On CNBC, Joe Kernen asked Trump whether there were any “worries about a pandemic.” “No, not at all,” the president replied. “We have it totally under control.” When Kernen asked whether the Chinese were telling the whole truth about the virus, Trump said they were. “I have a great relationship with President Xi,” he boasted. “We just signed probably the biggest deal ever made.”

How Trump Killed Tens of Thousands of Americans

A blow-by-blow account of his personal role in the coronavirus catastrophe.

slate.com

 

[Boober69]

Yup and he would win again if a Federal election were to be held today and possibly with a majority.

A Conservative collection of Harper government scandals

Some of the scandals and controversies that Stephen Harper has weathered since his Conservative government took office in 2006.

www.thestar.com

And you think that's a good thing?

 

[Boober69]

Trump has lied 20,000 times and you haven't cared about that.
Hypocrite.

Trump let China lie because he was in trade talks and now 160,000 Americans are dead.
You gloss over that and excuse the deaths repeatedly.

How Trump Killed Tens of Thousands of Americans

A blow-by-blow account of his personal role in the coronavirus catastrophe.

slate.com

Your forgiveness of China's lies is predictable. Last I checked the US didn't try and hide a new virus that originated within its borders that would ultimately kill close to a million people globally.

As usual, your biased rage is misdirected. But I do understand that Communists stick together.

 

[Frankfooter]

Your forgiveness of China's lies is predictable. Last I checked the US didn't try and hide a new virus that originated within its borders that would ultimately kill close to a million people globally.

As usual, your biased rage is misdirected. But I do understand that Communists stick together.

Are you seriously trying to blame China for 1,000,000 deaths now?
You blame China for a million deaths for lying but don't blame Trump for 160,000 deaths and way more lying?

 

[Boober69]

Are you seriously trying to blame China for 1,000,000 deaths now?
You blame China for a million deaths for lying but don't blame Trump for 160,000 deaths and way more lying?

China lied about the virus, and witheld information that could have saved thousands of lives if it was shared sooner. Instead, the spread started and was out of control.

Taiwan, who is very familiar with China's knack for lying acted immediately despite reassurance from the WHO and is it any wonder why they have less than 10 deaths?

And they continue to lie. You think China has less deaths (4000) than Canada (9000)? What else are they lying about?

How many lives that could have been saved would you be comfortable with before letting them off the hook?

But keep defending them if it makes you feel better Comrade.

 

[toguy5252]

China lied about the virus, and witheld information that could have saved thousands of lives if it was shared sooner. Instead, the spread started and was out of control.

Taiwan, who is very familiar with China's knack for lying acted immediately despite reassurance from the WHO and is it any wonder why they have less than 10 deaths?

And they continue to lie. You think China has less deaths (4000) than Canada (9000)? What else are they lying about?

How many lives that could have been saved would you be comfortable with before letting them off the hook?

But keep defending them if it makes you feel better Comrade.

LOL. You mean the the stable genius was not familiar with China's knack for lying? What do you suppose would have happened if your fearless leader acted immediately like Taiwan instead of the happy talk and dismissing the virus as a Democratic plot to make him look bad or fake news etc. What do you think would have happened if he actually listened to scientists with the developing knowledge.

 

[Boober69]

LOL. You mean the the stable genius was not familiar with China's knack for lying? What do you suppose would have happened if your fearless leader acted immediately like Taiwan instead of the happy talk and dismissing the virus as a Democratic plot to make him look bad or fake news etc. What do you think would have happened if he actually listened to scientists with the developing knowledge.

He would have proposed a travel ban then be called a xenophobe.

You think other countries weren't impacted by those China lies? Like I said, hindsight is 20/20 and you can spin your Trump hatred narrative however you want.

Pity you don't condemn China with the same amount of rage.

 

[Frankfooter]

He would have proposed a travel ban then be called a xenophobe.

Trump was told a pandemic was coming and China was hiding details about it.
Then he did nothing.
U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic