Joe Biden just destroyed one of Trump's biggest attack lines

Boober69

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Trump pulling the trigger early on travel bans was something he's been wanting to do pre-pandemic. Don't you find it ironic that now there is a travel ban against the US and Mexico wants to build a wall to keep Americans out? LMFAO
Nah...he specifically wanted to ban China travel and was called a racist. This delayed things and the outbreak got worse. Now people blame him for not banning travel soon enough.

OMFG the hypocrisy is laughable!
 

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Convenient narrative when it suits your purpose.

The proposed ban was attacked as being racist. Now you cry that it was too late?

How about you pick one? I can't keep track of your hypocrisy.
When did I say the China travel ban was racist?
I said Trump is a racist.

I just said that Trump enacted the ban way too late.

Trump delayed a response to the virus 'cuz he was trying to make a big trade deal with China, so thousands died.

In early January, Trump was warned about a deadly new virus in China. He was also told that the Chinese government was understating the outbreak. (See this timeline for a detailed chronology of what Trump knew and when he knew it.) This was inconvenient, because Trump was about to sign a lucrative trade deal with Beijing. “We have a great relationship with China right now, so I don’t want to speak badly of anyone,” Trump told Laura Ingraham in a Fox News interview on Jan. 10. He added that he was looking forward to a second deal with Xi. When Ingraham asked about China’s violations of human rights, Trump begged off. “I’m riding a fine line because we’re making … great trade deals,” he pleaded.
 

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Guys travel ban do not work in such pandemic. The virus got to every country on earth. As soon as it touch one country the shit hit the fan. The place that did the best is New Zealand but it's mostly because of the quick, fast and hard reaction of their government.

Here in Canada we did well so far. We should be proud of our response. Such as other European and Asian country.

USA's response was horrible. They could have contained like we did in Canada. But did not for multitude reason. But first and foremost because of the weak response by Trump's team. Any way you look at it no one could have done worst then Trump. Probably not even the similar clown down in Brazil.
 

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They also agree that travel should be controlled as well as banned to some places that are high risk. But you better not listen to them or you'll be called a racist.
LOL. First there was no ban at all as much as you keep repeating it. Next virtually every airline had already stopped flying to and from China. Next over 40K people entered from chin after so-called ban. And on top of that it appears that the virus entered the US not from China but Europe. Next the US was the 41st country to restrict travel from China. And last that was the end of January. What has he done in the last 8 months other than make the US the poster child as to how not to handle a pandemic and make it the laughing stock of the world.
 

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LOL. First there was no ban at all as much as you keep repeating it. Next virtually every airline had already stopped flying to and from China. Next over 40K people entered from chin after so-called ban. And on top of that it appears that the virus entered the US not from China but Europe. Next the US was the 41st country to restrict travel from China. And last that was the end of January. What has he done in the last 8 months other than make the US the poster child as to how not to handle a pandemic and make it the laughing stock of the world.
Why did they accuse Trump of being racist for proposing travel restrictions on China?
Why did the WHO caution against any travel bans, until much later (March/April) when it was already out of control?

Those are the questions you should be asking yourself rather than taking a "hindsight is 20/20" approach just to blame Trump for something no one could have prevented with how the WHO dropped the ball to protect China.
 

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Why did they accuse Trump of being racist for proposing travel restrictions on China?
Why did the WHO caution against any travel bans, until much later (March/April) when it was already out of control?

Those are the questions you should be asking yourself rather than taking a "hindsight is 20/20" approach just to blame Trump for something no one could have prevented with how the WHO dropped the ball to protect China.
News flash. This is August not January. The only answer you ever had was a phony travel ban in January. Lets just say it was fantastic and he was a genius for doing it. 160,000 people have died. What did he do after January. It is 8 months later.
 
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Why did they accuse Trump of being racist for proposing travel restrictions on China?
They didn't, it was his 'Muslim ban' that was racist.
The China travel ban was just late, ineffective and missed the EU where the virus was really hitting.


Those are the questions you should be asking yourself rather than taking a "hindsight is 20/20" approach just to blame Trump for something no one could have prevented with how the WHO dropped the ball to protect China.
Why did our liberal government under Trudeau succeed so much more than Trump and the US?
That's the question you refuse to answer.
 

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They didn't, it was his 'Muslim ban' that was racist.
The China travel ban was just late, ineffective and missed the EU where the virus was really hitting.




Why did our liberal government under Trudeau succeed so much more than Trump and the US?
That's the question you refuse to answer.
You mean Obama's Muslim ban?
https://observer.com/2017/01/barack-obama-policies-foundation-donald-trump-muslim-ban/

And no, you are reinventing history again...people jumped all over him for the proposed China travel restrictions...


"Within hours of President Trump's decision to restrict travel from China on Jan. 31, top Democrats and media figures immediately derided the move as unnecessary and xenophobic -- and they are now beating a hasty retreat from that position as the coronavirus continues to ravage the economy and cause scores of deaths.

Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden led the way, quickly attacking what he called Trump's "record of hysteria, xenophobia and fear-mongering" after the travel restrictions were announced, and arguing that Trump "is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency." Biden, on Wednesday, didn't criticize the travel ban in any way, and instead accused Trump of "downplaying" the virus early on in remarks to Fox News."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-media-change-tune-trump-attacks-coronavirus-china-travel-ban


You can't compare Canada to the US as it relates to the pandemic. Smaller, less dense, Canadians are better at listening to government and self-policing...in fact, if the Feds had acted sooner rather than being led by the nose by China & the WHO, Canada wouldn't have as many deaths as it does. THey didn't succeed, they were lucky.
 

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https://observer.com/2017/01/barack-obama-policies-foundation-donald-trump-muslim-ban/

Your article only says that Trump used some of the precedents from Obama when he implemented his racist travel ban.
The 'Muslim ban' was a Trump invention.


And no, you are reinventing history again...people jumped all over him for the proposed China travel restrictions...

"Within hours of President Trump's decision to restrict travel from China on Jan. 31, top Democrats and media figures immediately derided the move as unnecessary and xenophobic -- and they are now beating a hasty retreat from that position as the coronavirus continues to ravage the economy and cause scores of deaths.

Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden led the way, quickly attacking what he called Trump's "record of hysteria, xenophobia and fear-mongering" after the travel restrictions were announced, and arguing that Trump "is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency." Biden, on Wednesday, didn't criticize the travel ban in any way, and instead accused Trump of "downplaying" the virus early on in remarks to Fox News."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-media-change-tune-trump-attacks-coronavirus-china-travel-ban
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-media-change-tune-trump-attacks-coronavirus-china-travel-ban

Your article confirms that I am correct and you're full of shit, boob.
Biden criticized Trump's 'record' after the travel ban was enacted, not the ban.
Biden was right that Trump was the worst person to lead the US, as the US now has the record for deaths.

You can't compare Canada to the US as it relates to the pandemic. Smaller, less dense, Canadians are better at listening to government and self-policing...in fact, if the Feds had acted sooner rather than being led by the nose by China & the WHO, Canada wouldn't have as many deaths as it does. THey didn't succeed, they were lucky.
Sure I can, boob. You can't, because you have no understanding of math or stats, but I can.
Trudeau and Canada responded fairly well, even though we had a massive influx of cases from spring break in the US.
We're doing fine, not so the US.

Its hilarious you think its about 'luck', that really sums up your expertise on this subject well.
 

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News flash. This is August not January. The only answer you ever had was a phony travel ban in January. Lets just say it was fantastic and he was a genius for doing it. 160,000 people have died. What did he do after January. It is 8 months later.
What number of deaths would you be happy with before blaming Trump for it by default?

Here's my guess: 1
 

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What number of deaths would you be happy with before blaming Trump for it by default?

Here's my guess: 1
You really are funny in a pathetic way. The only thing you can point to that your fearless leader has done is a phony travel ban 8 months ago. In the meantime 160K people have died and he continues to say that it will just disappear. I cannot tell you hoe many more deaths have been but i would say it is a virtual certainty that there is some number of deaths that would have been avoided if he had taken it seriously and encouraged mask and distancing and testing instead of happy talk and encouraging business to open etc.
 

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You think any president could convince the American population to do what their government tells them to do?
hahahahaha

Look, you hate the guy. Fine.
But don't pretend this could have worked out any other way for the US regardless who was in office.
 

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You think any president could convince the American population to do what their government tells them to do?
hahahahaha

Look, you hate the guy. Fine.
But don't pretend this could have worked out any other way for the US regardless who was in office.
So your conclusion is that 'muricans are fucking retarded.
Glad you clarified that.
 
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You think any president could convince the American population to do what their government tells them to do?
hahahahaha

Look, you hate the guy. Fine.
But don't pretend this could have worked out any other way for the US regardless who was in office.
I have no doubt at all that if your fearless leader told his supporters including you to jump off a cliff they and you would do so.

And I do not hate him at all. I am an objective Canadian observer and based upon my observations he is the dumbest person every to occupy that office and definitely the worst deal maker.
 

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I have no doubt at all that if your fearless leader told his supporters including you to jump off a cliff they and you would do so.

And I do not hate him at all. I am an objective Canadian observer and based upon my observations he is the dumbest person every to occupy that office and definitely the worst deal maker.
Looking at American culture and mindset through a Canadian lens is why your perception may be skewed.
 

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You think any president could convince the American population to do what their government tells them to do?
hahahahaha

Look, you hate the guy. Fine.
But don't pretend this could have worked out any other way for the US regardless who was in office.
He convinced you that the news is fake, Putin is a swell guy, chloroquinine cures cancer, windmills cause cancer, you can stop hurricanes with nukes, hiring your children and their spouses is good business, tax fraud is good business, hiring crooks who get caught just means the justice system is biased and that orange makeup makes you look really cool.

So why couldn't he convince the rest of the country to wear a mask during a pandemic?
 

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"You think any president could convince the American population to do what their government tells them to do?
hahahahaha"

Your words, not mine.
If you hadn't noticed, Americans typically are not fond of what their government tells them to do. They are a nation founded on not letting the government have more control than the people.

History 101. Go back to school.
 
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