The Pandemic That Wasn't

squeezer

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I don't know. I just don't know."
...but now Trump has confirmed it and if you believe Orange Man, then you know because he knows everything LMAO...

just kidding. I'm not accusing you of being a Trump fan or not so don't yell at me. :bolt:
 

bebe

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I went to the Home Depot near my place today, what a change in policy for social distancing.

Last week the entrance to the main building was at the opposite end of the building versus the nursery. They had people ensuring no one walked into the EXIT at the nursery. The doors between the main building where locked. This week, you can enter the store through any door, very little effort put into slow the entry of people into the building. All the interior doors between the main building and nursery are wide open.

The grocery store near my place reopened their hot food table the deli etc. Lot less people wearing masks too, including the staff. The other week only one person per family could enter the store, now there is no limit.

Clearly people have grown tired of the fear mongering and are becoming more and more comfortable being out and about as the weather gets better and better
 

squeezer

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I went to the Home Depot near my place today, what a change in policy for social distancing.

Last week the entrance to the main building was at the opposite end of the building versus the nursery. They had people ensuring no one walked into the EXIT at the nursery. The doors between the main building where locked. This week, you can eneter the store through any door, very little effort put into slow the entey of people into the building. All the doors interior doors between the main building and nursery are wide open.

The grocery store near my place reopned their hot food table the deli etc. Lot less people wearing masks too, including the staff. The other week only one person per family could enter the store, now there is no limit.

Clearly people have grown tired of the fear mongering and are becoming more and more comfortable being out and about as the weather gets better and better
Things like this are what will keep Doug from going all out and open everything not to mention will probably make the numbers start to creep up.
 

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Things like this are what will keep Doug from going all out and open everything not to mention will probably make the numbers start to creep up.
if you want to live in fear you stay home leave the rest of us who want to live our lives without fear
 

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Lowe's had a couple of small groups with kids running around, nobody was wearing a mask, etc. :(

I'm not talking about a lot of people crowding into bars of course. That is a long time away. I meant more like a pub/restaurant where you can still keep a bit of a distance. The Subway near me has people constantly going in and out and there doesn't look to be any distancing measures in place whatsoever. I would feel better having a sandwich at the pub where I can keep a bit of distance.
How about while the weather is nice, getting a to go order from the restaurant and sitting in a park with a drink? If it was winter I'd be going a little stir crazy but enjoy the outdoors while the weather allows.
 

bebe

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How about while the weather is nice, getting a to go order from the restaurant and sitting in a park with a drink? If it was winter I'd be going a little stir crazy but enjoy the outdoors while the weather allows.
John Tory is pushing to have patio bars/restaurants open for the summer. He knows this cannot go on too much longer.
 

MissCroft

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How about while the weather is nice, getting a to go order from the restaurant and sitting in a park with a drink?s
I love that idea. I just really don't see how a to-go/takeout order is so much safer. Someone else is still preparing and serving your food.
 

doggystyle99

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I did say that I don't know for sure. There are other countries that didn't completely go on full lockdown and they were okay. No one really knows.

I do feel that if stores like Wal-Mart, Lowe's (was in one yesterday and it was quite busy), Canadian Tire, etc. are open, then some bars and restaurants should be as well. Just try to seat people as far apart as possible.

And shops with street entrances are open. I've also noticed that a couple of places that offer takeout are starting to allow customers to sit for short periods.

I would feel safer going to a pub and being served a beer or a wine and maybe a sandwich then going to subway to get a sub but they've been open the entire time and are busy (with little possibility of social distancing). Seems a bit unequal at this point. But I'm rambling now! lol
Some countries (Italy, France, Spain, Belgium, Nehterlands, UK and many more) didn't take the proper measures of shutdowns early on when the Coronavirus was spreading through their country and were only forced to institute shutdowns at a later date. There is no doubt had Canada not taking any measure we would have been forced to do so in a later date, you can try to deny that all you want but facts and data proves otherwise.

The data and facts that were coming out of China mostly and some other countries early on (Italy, Iran, Spain, South Korea, Taiwan) was to be able to combat the virus properly you either need to shutdown non essential businesses and enforce self isolation for the population, or have vigorous health and tracing measures in place like Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore. Otherwise the battle against the Coronavirus would only be limited through a shutdown and the measure of vigorous tracing for so many countries is something that would not go very well with their citizens, and Canada is one of those countries.

Certain countries such as Sweden and Brazil did not institute shutdowns and they are paying dearly for it with unnecessary deaths. The other countries that did not institute shutdowns that have been able to limit the spread of the virus to as low as possible have extreme health and tracing measures.
 

MissCroft

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had Canada not taking any measure we would have been forced to do so in a later date, you can try to deny that all you want but facts and data proves otherwise.
I never denied that. I don't understand why people are putting words in my mouth. I never said that I think FOR SURE that there should never have been a lockdown. I actually agreed with the lockdown but I think that it might be lingering on for too long at this point. People need to get back to work.

I just don't understand why certain fast food places were allowed to stay open. I wouldn't trust a burger from a drive-thru (I don't know who touched the burger. I don't know if tge employees were wiping their noses, etc.) Yet they were open and packed the entire time. :confused:

I want to see some CONSISTENCY regarding the lockdown and the measures taken. IMHO, there has been little.

If you want to implement Draconian measures, then make it a bit more consistent across the board.
 

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Coming up on 400,000 deaths worldwide but no big deal.
7000 million people in the world. It's really not a big deal. Millions die of starvation every year.

Eventually you're all going to have to realize that you're not special enough to have world economies shut down just so you can avoid a new flu.
 

Smallcock

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Yeah go into any fast food place and none of the workers hovering over your food are wearing masks but the customers that are going to ingest the tainted food are all wearing masks.

It's all so dumb, and is just one more reason nobody can take the lockdown seriously.
 

doggystyle99

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I never denied that. I don't understand why people are putting words in my mouth. I never said that I think FOR SURE that there should never have been a lockdown. I actually agreed with the lockdown but I think that it might be lingering on for too long at this point. People need to get back to work.

I just don't understand why certain fast food places were allowed to stay open. I wouldn't trust a burger from a drive-thru (I don't know who touched the burger. I don't know if tge employees were wiping their noses, etc.) Yet they were open and packed the entire time. :confused:

I want to see some CONSISTENCY regarding the lockdown and the measures taken. IMHO, there has been little.

If you want to implement Draconian measures, then make it a bit more consistent across the board.
When you say thing like “no one really knows” regarding shutdowns you are trying to deny the data and the facts that are out there regarding the effectiveness of shutdowns.

Although you do not understand why fast foods or restaurant were allowed to stay open as long as they only provided take out there are data and facts that prove had they stayed open for dine ins or bars were allowed to stay open there would have been more spread of the virus. Search google for South Korea and the tracing of 90 known cases back to the same person at a bar. Again Restaurants and bars are places where social distancing is unbelievably hard to do and disinfecting after use by each person is next to impossible, this is all due to the importance of understanding assymptomatic carriers.

If there are any restaurants that are allowing for dine in currently they are doing it against the law and I haven’t seen any restaurant doing that.
 

MissCroft

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When you say thing like “no one really knows” regarding shutdowns you are trying to deny the data and the facts that are out there regarding the effectiveness of shutdowns.
No. When someone says they don't know, it means that they don't know. I don't know what is so difficult to comprehend. I am not denying data so please do not accuse me of something that I am not guilty of doing.

I am staying out of this thread because I am having words put in my mouth. I never said that there shouldn't have been a lockdown. I said that MAYBE it was unnecessary. I DON'T KNOW. The same thing that many doctors have said. I actually agreed with the lockdown very much when it started. I never once denied its possible effectiveness. But it has been inconsistent from the get go. :( Good night.
 
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bebe

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I missed doggystyle99 comments, for a whole week he did not make a single post.

Where did you go for vacation??
 

bebe

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Things like this are what will keep Doug from going all out and open everything not to mention will probably make the numbers start to creep up.
Contrast that to my quick visit to Longo’s this morning to grab a few items. Masks mandatory for all. Do a better job spraying down the shopping carts.


Also drove past the small park by my house. 3 families out their with the kids playing on the equipment. Yellow caution tape still in place. Kids looked to be having fun.
 

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Contrast that to my quick visit to Longo’s this morning to grab a few items. Masks mandatory for all. Do a better job spraying down the shopping carts.
Half life of covid is in the minutes
Things like spray on shopping carts is busy work to impress sheeple
 

Smallcock

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Contrast that to my quick visit to Longo’s this morning to grab a few items. Masks mandatory for all. Do a better job spraying down the shopping carts.


Also drove past the small park by my house. 3 families out their with the kids playing on the equipment. Yellow caution tape still in place. Kids looked to be having fun.
I went to a No Frills yesterday... no line-up to get inside the store, jam-packed full of people inside, nobody wearing masks, nobody following those arrows on the floor, nobody staying 6 feet apart except at the checkout. It was close to pre-covid behavior, and it was beautiful. It will be like this everywhere in 2 months.
 

bebe

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Half life of covid is in the minutes
Things like spray on shopping carts is busy work to impress sheeple
Agreed. I’m all for opening things up.

Stunned Ontario is moving at a snails pace when a vast majority of the world is moving forward at a much faster pace
 
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