Biden has double-digit lead over Sanders for Democratic nomination

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Biden has a double-digit lead over Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders for the Democratic presidential nomination, a new CNN poll of Democratic voters nationwide conducted by SSRS shows.

Biden is now the choice of a majority of Democratic voters nationwide, according to the poll, which was taken in the days after the former vice president's stronger-than-expected showing across Super Tuesday contests and as the field of Democratic contenders with a realistic shot at winning the nomination narrowed to two.

The poll finds 52% of registered voters who are Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents say they want to see Biden win the nomination, while 36% say they'd rather see Sanders win.
Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who dropped out of the race on Thursday, lands at 7% in the poll. That is largely due to her 18% showing in interviews conducted on Wednesday, before she ended her campaign. Among those interviewed after she left the contest, Biden's support rose to 57%, Sanders stood at 36%, while 2% volunteered that they still backed Warren. Another 6% chose someone else or were unsure about who they would support.
Biden's successful Super Tuesday appears to have led to a rebound in his favorability rating (48% overall now hold a positive view, up from 39% in December), while Sanders has hit his highest unfavorability rating yet in CNN polling back to 2015 (52% hold an unfavorable view of him, up from 44% in December).
Warren is the only candidate of the four Democrats who recently ended their campaigns who earns largely positive favorability ratings from both backers of Biden and of Sanders. Warren has yet to endorse a candidate in the nomination fight, while former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar have all thrown their support behind Biden and receive mostly positive views from Biden's backers. They receive less positive views from those supporting Sanders.
Overall, Biden holds a nearly 20-point edge among white voters and 10-point one among non-whites, as Sanders' strength among Latino voters cancels out a bit of Biden's edge among African Americans. But there remain sharp divides within the party across age groups, ideological views and party affiliation. Among those under age 45, Sanders tops Biden by 26 points, 57% to 31%. Among voters age 45 or older, it's a 72% to 17% advantage for Biden.
Liberals back Sanders 52% to 36%, while those who consider themselves moderate or conservative give Biden a 65% to 24% lead. Self-identified Democrats break 55% to 32% for Biden, while independents are about evenly split, 46% for Sanders to 45% for Biden. An education gap among white voters that seemed to be driven by white college voters' tendency to choose candidates other than these two has faded as the field has shrunk.
About two-thirds of Democratic voters say they prefer a candidate with a strong chance of beating Donald Trump (65%), the largest share to say so in CNN polling in the last year, while 29% say they prefer one who agrees with them on major issues. These voters take opposite views on the race between Biden and Sanders: 59% in the beat Trump camp choose Biden and 53% on the issues side choose Sanders.
Still, there's little to suggest a major backlash no matter who ultimately wins the party's nomination. About nine in 10 voters who are Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents say they would ultimately support each candidate in November, regardless of their support in the primary. And three-quarters of Democratic voters (74%) -- including 78% of those who prioritize beating Trump -- say they are confident the party will nominate someone with a strong chance to defeat the President.
But the poll suggests Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters are not merely looking for someone to hit the reset button on the Trump era. Asked whether it should be a higher priority for the next president to restore the government to the way it was before Trump took office or to go beyond restoration to make major changes to the way the government works, 72% choose major changes, just 25% restoration. Even among Biden supporters, 58% say it is more important to make major changes to move beyond where the government was before Trump.
About two-thirds of Americans (66%) and 8 in 10 Democratic or Democratic-leaning voters (83%) say they do not feel well represented by the government in Washington now. Among Sanders' supporters, that rises to 88%, including 57% who say they feel not at all represented by the government in Washington.
On health care and the climate crisis, two issues which consistently rate at the top of Democrats' priority list, Democratic voters are split between Sanders and Biden on who would best handle each issue. On health care, 46% say Sanders would do a better job, 43% Biden. On climate, 45% choose Sanders, 42% Biden. Biden holds his widest edge on foreign policy (67% choose him, 23% Sanders) and tops Sanders by 26 points on the economy (57% Biden to 31% Sanders), an issue that could emerge as a more critical one for Democrats as the effects of the novel coronavirus spread. Biden also tops Sanders as more trusted on immigration, 49% to 36%.
Biden outpaces Sanders by 40 points as the candidate with the best chance to beat Trump (66% say Biden has the best shot, 26% say Sanders), the best chance to unite the country (65% Biden to 26% Sanders) and as best able to handle a major crisis (65% Biden to 23% Sanders). But Sanders tops Biden by nine points as the candidate who best understands the problems facing people like you (47% Sanders to 38% Biden) and by six points on who agrees with you on the issues that matter most (46% Sanders to 40% Biden).
The poll finds both Biden and Sanders hold significant leads over Trump in hypothetical general election matchups among registered voters. Biden tops Trump 53% to 43%, while Sanders leads by 52% to 45%. Among those voters who live in 15 battleground states -- those decided by 8 points or less in the 2016 election -- Biden narrowly tops Trump, 51% to 45%, while Sanders and Trump are within the margin of error of each other, 49% back Sanders, 46% Trump.
The president's favorability rating in the poll is about the same as December, 43% view him positively, 54% view him negatively.
In 2016, those voters who felt unfavorable toward both Hillary Clinton and Trump broke sharply in Trump's direction, according to exit polls. This poll finds that those holding unfavorable views of both Trump and the top Democratic candidates are largely breaking against Trump at this point in the race.
The CNN Poll was conducted by SSRS March 4 through 7 among a random national sample of 1,211 adults reached on landlines or cellphones by a live interviewer. Results for the full sample have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.3 percentage points. For results among the 540 registered voters who are Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents, it is plus or minus 5.0 percentage points.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/09/politics/cnn-poll-biden-lead-sanders/index.html
 

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Cory Booker has also endorsed Biden. This old be very interesting after Kamala Harris did so earlier.
 

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It is game over for the old socialist.
Trump or Biden would be business as usual
 

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It is game over for the old socialist.
Trump or Biden would be business as usual
Right now, with trump, it is anything but business as usual. He is trying to turn the whole system upside down. Biden may not be revolutionary but he would bring stability and a return to some form of normalcy.

Trying to make an equivalency between the two is way off base.
 

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Right now, with trump, it is anything but business as usual. He is trying to turn the whole system upside down. Biden may not be revolutionary but he would bring stability and a return to some form of normalcy.

Trying to make an equivalency between the two is way off base.
^^^^^^^ Yup.

Biden is stability. Bernie vs Trump would polarize the country beyond repair. The Red State / Blue State rift would never heal.
 

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Right now, with trump, it is anything but business as usual. He is trying to turn the whole system upside down. Biden may not be revolutionary but he would bring stability and a return to some form of normalcy.

Trying to make an equivalency between the two is way off base.
for us (Canada) it is business as usual; maybe it is not for China or Iran. It would had been a lot more fun to watch Trump destroying the progressives, but I guess I will have to settle on Trump moping up the floor with the globalist champion
 

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^^^^^^^ Yup.

Biden is stability. Bernie vs Trump would polarize the country beyond repair. The Red State / Blue State rift would never heal.
Biden will beat Trump easily just based on nobody hating him nearly as much as Trump.
 

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Hillary was also going to easily beat Trump.
With her, you had someone the Democrats were not afraid to let speak. She is very intelligent and well spoken, and did great in the debates with Trump.
You miss the essential point. Nobody liked Clinton and quite a few dems actively hated her.
Biden doesn't inspire that form of hatred, he's a safe choice who will be business as usual, regardless of whether or not his stutter makes him sound almost as incoherent as Trump every day.

The Sanders crowd, with the exception of butler who will go back to backing Trump again, will support Biden to get Trump out.
And Biden polls best against Trump, which is what really matters.
 

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Tulsi Gabbard and Bernie Sanders are stable and normal.

Nothing about Biden is normal or stable. The worst thing Joe does is meet with potential voters because when agitated he name calls, threatens, swears, and even tells them to vote for someone else.
Thanks not normal.
Tulsi is hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=15&v=lYD7kK6X-L8&feature=emb_logo

She is not normal.
Bernie is pretty normal, but he's been shouting the same stuff for decades. Warren would have been a far smarter choice to challenge Biden.

Biden is as vanilla as you get, so he gets angry and yells at trolls. That's normal.
He had a stutter and it shows up sometimes, stop being mean about his disability.

At least he knows what Pearl Harbour was, doesn't think he's smart because his uncle was a prof or brag about how knows everything.
Trump at a party would be that kind of loudmouth you'd totally ignore and just laugh at with his friends if he didn't have his daddy's cash.
He's an ignorant, racist, rapey, moron who is the embodiment of entitled rapey old white guys.
Speaking of which, 23 years for Weinstein.
Trump still refusing to take that DNA test to prove he's innocent?
 

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Hillary is a murderer that identifies as a woman.

Biden is a demented pedophile that identifies as a Politician.

Bernie is a Communist that identifies as a Communist.
 

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Clinton was hard to like, I agree. But she has many advantages over Joe. Besides the ones mentioned, she was also a women.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm by the idea, I don't care what sex, color, or religion you are.
I like the best person for the job, and actually get turned off by people using their skin, or sexual orientation as handicap or reason to vote.

But going on the liberal point of view, the open borders, and everyone is equal vision, Biden is just another old white Millionaire.
The Democrats sifted through all the candidates, passed over the non whites, the women, the gay guy, and ended up with two old white guys.

Honestly, unless you keep Biden away from a camera, he is anything but a safe choice. I'm certain many democrats are worried.
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The Trump team is going full on with the senility attack.
It'll backfire as Trump looks even more mentally incapable if you look even with one eye opened.

Those attacks are for the Trump base, the rest of the country understands that Biden will just be a normal, centre right, type politician who won't fuck over the country the way Trump is right now.
By the way, Trump's hero is going for president for life status.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/world/europe/putin-president-russia.html
Trump is going to be very jealous now.
 

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Biden will pick a woman (maybe Harris?) as his running mate.

They will get 100% of the votes in liberal states like New York, California, Oregon and Washington and claim they won the popular vote.
 

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I just like Gabbard because she is more open and honest. Warren could still have made things interesting, exiting when she did, really seemed to be by design to hurt Bernie.
Biden doesn't just get angry, he lashes out. These are not trolls either, they are potential voters, at his rally.
That was a troll, yelling at him just put the rest of the crowd on his side the way Trump does with protesters at his rallies.
Why is it good when Trump does it but not Biden?

Further, Biden has been in politics for decades, and was a VP for 8yrs. He says he knows how to get America right, but why now? Whats he been waiting for?
Trump is not a career politician, and in short time, has done incredible things with creating jobs, lowering unemployment, and keeping promises.
Obama created more jobs, did better economically and did more to keep is promises.
How is Trump's medicare plan doing?
Peace deal with NK?
Why is he talking of giving hotels aid during this coronavirus outbreak but not the people?
Why are his kids taking so much campaign money?

Seriously, don't even try that angle. I've never made fun of him or anyone. Strange enough, I have seen enough people make fun ( no names) of Trump for a variety of things.
Biden over came his childhood stutter, and even if he comes back at times, I've not taken notice.
You are doing that with your attacks on his senility, where you take vocal stutters as signs of senility where you totally excuse all Trump errors.

I agree, Trump probably could be self absorbed. People close to him though seem to like him. Tiger Woods doesn't seem put off by his arrogance.
There sure are a lot of insiders who have called him a moron, idiot or are now in jail.

But allegations are nothing but just that. Biden however, is pure creepy with smelling kids, and constantly touching them. Its very much like a predator, and pedophile.
As for being a racist, few have done more than Trump for the black community.
Creepy? Trump has 53 women accusing him a sexual assault. That's creepy, pussy grabbing entitlement. He's Weinstein but still at it.
Trump has done nothing for the black community intentionally and 80% of them think he's a racist.
 

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Of I am Trump, i would focus on Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Pennsylvania and Texas.

Don't waste time, effort and money on News York, California, Oregon and Washington. Those lefty states would vote massively for a donkey if nominated by the Dems.

It will be interesting to see which way Minnesota and New Jersey goes.
 

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Tulsi Gabbard and Bernie Sanders are stable and normal.
I was referring to a comment that said that with either trump or Biden it would be "same old, same old".
 

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Manufacturing rose 3.6 percent during Trump's three years, which was more than double the rise of 1.7 percent in the three years under Obama before that.
The stock market grew 31 percent in the 807 trading days before Trump's election, but it grew by 56 percent in the 807 trading days after it.
Unemployment fell under Trump. Economists say that the continued decline is particularly impressive since the rate is nearing record lows. The current rate is lowest it has been in the last 50 years.

Obama let manufacturing leave the US and conceded to say they were just gone. No magic wand would bring them back, but Trump has brought them back.
Remember that during the recession, numerous jobs of all sorts were lost. But let us take all the jobs into perspective under both the regimes:

During Trump's first 36 months in office, the US economy has gained 6.6 million jobs. But during a comparable 36-month period at the end of Obama's tenure, employers added 8.1 million jobs, or 23% more than what has been added since Trump took office.

The average monthly gain so far under Trump is 182,000 jobs. During the last 36 months under Obama, employers were adding an average of 224,000 jobs a month.
On Friday, the Labor Department reported that employers added a fairly robust 225,000 jobs in January. But it also made some revisions to past data, which lowered many previous job growth estimates. While some of the revisions go all the way back to the last century, most of the changes to data took place during 2018 and 2019. So the revisions reduced the gains during Obama's final three years by 47,000 jobs, but it reduced the gains during Trump's tenure by a total of 354,000 jobs.
The job record under Trump is far better than the job record during Obama's first 35 months in office, when the economy lost 805,000 jobs. But Obama took office in the midst of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. In the final job reading before Obama took office, the economy lost 784,000 jobs in that month alone. And it continued to lose jobs throughout the rest of 2009 as Obama's economic policies went into effect.
By comparison, Trump took office with the labor market in relatively good shape, with unemployment at 4.7%, and a string of 76 straight months of job gains. The labor market has clearly continued to improve. Unemployment of 3.6% in January is nearly at a 50-year low now. But it is a continuation of an improving job market, not the turnaround that occurred in the early years of the Obama administration.

And Trump's job record is not unique. A gain of more than 6.6 million jobs during a 35-month period has been common during the 80 years that the Labor Department has counted jobs. There are hundreds of overlapping 36-month periods of better growth on record.
At this point in his first and only term, Jimmy Carter had enjoyed a gain of about 10.1 million jobs. Employers added 8.5 million jobs during the first 36 months of Bill Clinton's term and 7.8 million jobs during the first 36 months of Lyndon Johnson's tenure, even though the labor force at that time was less than half the size of what it is today.
Promises - Obama promised "If you like your current health care plan , you can keep it". PolitiFact had named "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it," the Lie of the Year for 2013.
Trump promised that Mexico would pay for the wall. Biggest Lie of the Century as Mexico did not pay a single cent towards it.

Trump promised that he would improve the Healthcare for all Americans. All he was trying to do was take it away for up to 32 Million Americans. He also promised to improve it but has done nothing to improve it and it no longer is on his agenda.

Obama also promised Israel An Embassy in Jerusalem. I know you don't agree with that, but Obama like others promised that, and lied. Trump made good on it.
That is not the case. A move to Jerusalem would only occur if the Israeli / Palestinian dispute was resolved. In fact Obama signed the waiver keeping the embassy in Tel Aviv. In fact the Israeli / Palestinian agreement is further in the doldrums under Trump and the resolution will not occur under his leadership. All that will happen is more lives being lost. Very sad as very few nations support Trump's decision.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article118178053.html

Peace with NK - Is NK at war with China or the US? Did Obama ever walk into North Korea on foot? Trump has.
What was achieved with that meeting with Jong Un? All tat has happened since then is that the North Koreans have ramped up their tests on weapons and they have conceded absolutely nothing to Trump. Trump promised that he would resolve this dispute and praised Jong Un who is a brutal dictator. rump has meanwhile bashed all the allies like Merkel, Trudeau, Boris Johnson, and Macron on several occasions.

As for hotels and campaign money, I don't know. Seems Hunter Biden working for Burisma is much more seedy.
Hunter was investigated and no wrongdoings though ethically wrong. It is clear that Burisma hired him just for one reason. That is to change the impression that they were a Russian Influenced Company, and nothing else. What was even more seedy was the manner in which the Republicans vetoed all the evidence being revealed during the impeachment hearings. Well this Hunter Biden evidence would have been revealed. But now they are moving ahead with that investigation, and this is very sleazy indeed. Hope this occurs:

Senate Democrat calls for investigation of agencies complying with Hunter Biden requests:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...vestigation-of-agencies-complying-with-hunter

However, Don Trump's visit to India and sales of Trump properties including the $35,000 cash to just attend his presentation that was expensed by the American Taxpayers for security reasons needs to be investigated, as are Ivanka's 16 or so Trademarks gifted by the Chinese President after she attended the Official dinner with her Father.

Let us not forget Trump's intended gift to Putin of an ensuite Premium Moscow Condominium that in the end did not materialize.

Kushner's $25 - 50 million profits thanks to Trump's tax Bill that he and Ivanka persuaded Trump to implement.

Finally, we have Don junior's girlfriends being gifted these seedy campaign funds:

https://www.salon.com/2020/03/09/br...ic-view-to-don-jrs-girlfriend-report_partner/
 

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I have to wonder why an article would compare Trumps total so far against just the last 3yrs of Obama. I will agree, both these Presidents have had great results, and both relied on stimuls packages.
But how would they measure up if you compare Trump's first 3yrs and Obama's first 3yrs respectively? Or, if Trump wins a second term, compare both through their entire terms, not just a section.
Better still, much like comparing two great players in Hockey, lets just appreciate the good that both have done respectively.
Perfect example of "Your mouth is writing checks your ass can't cash". But this isn't a lie, until his term ends.
While still in office, Trump could save face on this one. Though I have my doubts.
Agreed, a miserable fail. Forget the Dems not working with him, a President must deliver on something that big.
Jong Un is just out to play games. All one can do, is hope to keep him in check. He hasn't denuclearized, so the sanctions stay in place. Trump is hard on France, Canada, and Germany, but think that was over NATO.
Sometimes other nations do put too much on the USA, and don't better share burdens.

I won't deny, its all greasy..lol
So true my friend.
You know that I will always agree with you on nearly all fronts, as you are very precise in your content.

As far as why the comparisons between Obama's last three years and Trump's first three years, is due to having a more level playing field.

Remember when Obama took over from Bush, that was during the worst recession since the Great Depression. If Trump took over instead at that time there is no way that the economy would have performed the way it presently does. That is a fact. That is why it is more reasonable to use the last 3 years of Obama's tenure as a comparison, rather than the first three years. If there is yet another recession and Trump loses, then once again we cannot do a true comparison versus Trumps' last four years of his tenure, as the recession will be all about steering a sinking ship.
 

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It is game over for the old socialist.
Trump or Biden would be business as usual
By business as usual do you mean that Biden would spend most of hos time at his own golf courses and charge the secret service hundred of thousands of dollars? Or do you mean that Biden would have his cronies and others who are trying to curie favor stay at his hotels and charge the people hoping for favors from the government or the RNC and taxpayers exorbitant rates.
 
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