Racism due to corona virus
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I am actually not so sure that media is overestimating the risk, it might be as well that it underestimates it. I think,everybody agrees that things are pretty bad in China, and what Chinese government does to minimise the damage are very severe measures. Hence, anyone that comes from Chine may pose a risk. This is the reason lots of airlines cancelled service to China. But it is not possible to isolate the entire country, in fact, many countries still have frequent flight service with China now and Chinese airlines even have direct flights to Canada. I am not sure if all people coming on direct flights from China are quarantined (I doubt so), but there are definitely lots of wealthy Chinese who find their ways through indirect flights to Europe and North America. Another thing about this virus is that it has very low mortality rate but very contentious. In fact, more than half of people who got ill do not even notice it (or have very mild symptoms) and get well easily. But it means that there are lots of undiagnosed cases, so, lots of people with the virus, not just a handful that shows symptoms. And they are still contagious. Such "hidden" sick people make the true mortality rate lower than official one, but even with 0.5% mortality rate it is still 180,000 expected death for 37.5M Canadian population if everybody get sick. And if the virus will not get localised or vaccine will not be made in the next few month, there is a chance that everybody, indeed, will get think: once more than 10% of population in the city got the virus, it is almost impossible not to get it.
It is too early to tell with any certainty. I suspect that the virus mostly kills people with existing health problems, especially people that were or are smokers and people with respiratory diseases. The pollution in China does not help. I think the severe measures taken by China is due to their recent new wealth, they are afraid to lose prosperity after so many years of being a have not.
What a silly assumption to think that "most" Chinese people get their news from a particular source.
Well, what can stop a pandemic? Either quarantine or vaccine, or both. Since it is virus, there is no cure once you get sick (just alleviation of symptoms). Given that it is as contagious as flue but without antibodies, just quarantine will not be enough, vaccine is needed. So, current measures are good in the sense that it buys lots of time to develop a vaccine. Yes, it is extremely unlikely given current infection level in Canada that anyone you know will get sick or die form it. But it is only because of quarantine, which will be less effective as more people get sick. Yes, the mortality rate is very low, but if many people get sick, the current health system will not be able to cure the complications, and, as a result, mortality rate will go up. In some sense, it is better to get sick now then later.
How did the whistle blower doctor in China die a week after contracting the virus?
He wasnt in his 80's nor had existing health problems?
"A third study of more than 1,000 coronavirus cases showed men represented 58 percent of all cases, with a median age of 47".
Death and infection are two different things. While anyone may have the same chance to be infected, people with weaker immune system or with pre-existing illnesses that can be worsened by infection are more likely to die.
I've seen videos on Instagram of people deliberately spreading the virus. Some of the infected are coughing and spitting directly onto the elevator buttons, rubbing the virus all over the buttons. What kind of sick person does this??? Maybe the virus is making them do it.
That's why I never get on the elevator alone. I always wait for someone and let them in first so they feel obligated to ask "which floor?" And they press the button.
Safety first!
Then why do healthy people get vaccinated?
There is this constant flip flop on flu's and the need to vaccinate.
If you dont vaccinate, you are an outcast. If you do vaccinate, you're a savior. The flu kills many people a year.....Yea, but because they had a weak immune system. Blah blah blah...
So, what is it? Vaccinate no matter what or only if you have a weak immune system?
Remember, there are studies done and also member posting that more people die from the flu yearly than from the covid19 virus yet we have the magic vaccine here but our death rate is higher?
Can someone set the record straight on what to believe?
I think you need to carefully read the static yourself before you try to belittle someone......
Where in the statistic I posted did it mention being alive or not?
To specifically clarify the statistic to YOU, it only mentions that they found it infects men more than women and the median age being around 47.
I dont see where it being alive or not was it mentioned?
There are private and public benefits of flue vaccine. Even if I am healthy and have almost no chance to die from flue, I still do not like get sick and suffer for two weeks, I'd rather get a shot. This is a private benefit. And a public benefit: lower number of sick people led to lower chance of getting sick for non-vaccinated person (in fact, since no vaccine is 100% effective, it reduces the risk of being sick even if you have a vaccine). Medicine is not an exact science, everything is about probabilities and how to change them.
Actually both of those stats mean a lot, in china the difference between the number of males to females is not as great as you would think 713 MLN men and 681 MLN women, it's less than 5% difference, where the numbers of men vs women who were affected by the corona virus represents a 16% difference, which means men are at a more significant risk.
If the article was talking about the average age you'd be right to expect the average age be somewhere in the middle if the actual cases were mostly of age 5 and 80, but the article is talking about median age, which I am not sure you quite grasp the difference of it from average. And the age of under 5 and over 80 are not stats that I am aware of.
What kind of crazy talk is that? Of course they would never lie to anybody. The media has no agenda at all. (eyes rolling)
If Russia had the outbreak and posted their stats regarding the virus, would the people in tv land believe Russia's numbers?
I find it interesting that WE take the Communist country experts numbers as accurate and any other numbers produced as conspiracy.
I find it interesting that WE take the Communist country experts numbers as accurate and any other numbers produced as conspiracy.
the flu vaccine is effective 40%-60%. so if they come out with the covid-19 vaccine, there is still a chance of infection. i'm as confused as you are
