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The Oracle

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A pragmatist cannot be this far removed from an understanding of the history of the oppression of Native peoples in Canada. Neither would a pragmatist deliberately troll the Native community in this way. Nothing pragmatic about it...so then what is this really about?
Well this pragmatist just got finished reading '' Empire Of The Summer Moon'' and ''Blood And Thunder'' so I think he has a pretty good grasp on history of the native people in North America.

Off to watch the UFC early fights now . So have fun Social justice Warrioring.......
 

JohnLarue

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A pragmatist cannot be this far removed from an understanding of the history of the oppression of Native peoples in Canada. Neither would a pragmatist deliberately troll the Native community in this way. Nothing pragmatic about it...so then what is this really about?
A pragmatic approach is to recognize that the railroads deliver the water treatment chemicals to 95% of Canada's municipalities as well as essential propane so people do not freeze to death
These chemicals ensure safe drinking water is available to 95% of the population. Different chemicals the railroads deliver ensure sewage water is treated properly
Therefore this a public safety issue and anyone's "feelings" are a distant secondary consideration.
That is pragmatic

Then there is the enormous economic damage this special interest group is inflicting on Canada by illegally shutting down the railroads.
That is pragmatic

My expectation has always been that anyone knowing breaking the law and endangering public safety would be arrested & prosecuted
This is the expectation of anyone within a stable law abiding society
That is pragmatic

This special interest group have openly declared their objective is to "Shut Canada down"
No! Canada needs to shut them down and ensure that do not meet their objective
That is pragmatic

This needs to be fixed, fixed quickly and fixed so that it does not happen again
That is pragmatic
 

Frankfooter

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A pragmatic approach is to recognize that the railroads deliver the water treatment chemicals to 95% of Canada's municipalities as well as essential propane so people do not freeze to death
These chemicals ensure safe drinking water is available to 95% of the population. Different chemicals the railroads deliver ensure sewage water is treated properly
Therefore this a public safety issue and anyone's "feelings" are a distant secondary consideration.
That is pragmatic

Then there is the enormous economic damage this special interest group is inflicting on Canada by illegally shutting down the railroads.
That is pragmatic

My expectation has always been that anyone knowing breaking the law and endangering public safety would be arrested & prosecuted
This is the expectation of anyone within a stable law abiding society
That is pragmatic

This special interest group have openly declared their objective is to "Shut Canada down"
No! Canada needs to shut them down and ensure that do not meet their objective
That is pragmatic

This needs to be fixed, fixed quickly and fixed so that it does not happen again
That is pragmatic
So what would you do, larue?
Obviously not negotiate, so would you start shooting?
 

The Oracle

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Trump would have fixed this problem. He doesn't care about hurt feelings.
With that beard and tan he looks more and more like his alleged father everyday.
trump has a beard?

trump would be too busy cheating at golf. He'd just ask his buddy Putin to fly in some Cossacks.
Ok. But the only name mentioned in Darts' post was trunp and then he made a reference to "his father", so he must have been referring to trump's father. No other way to interpret it.

l.
He's referring to the right wing rumour that Justin's father is actually Fidel Castro not P.E. Trudeau.
 

shack

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He's referring to the right wing rumour that Justin's father is actually Fidel Castro not P.E. Trudeau.
I knew he was referring to Trudeau. But the way his post was worded, it could justifiably be interpreted in any number of ways.
 

Insidious Von

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Shiva Scheer thought he had engineered a masterstroke when Leona Alleslev crossed the floor. She turned out to be the gift that keep on giving to Justin, even further to the right as a social conservative than Shiva.

Breaking News: The front runner for the Provincial Liberals is Steven Del Duca. I find this confusing since he lost his seat to Michael Tibollo in the last election. Stephen Lecce's ambitions have been stunted by teacher's unrest, his Vaughan-King City seat may not be safe.
 

wigglee

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A pragmatic approach is to recognize that the railroads deliver the water treatment chemicals to 95% of Canada's municipalities as well as essential propane so people do not freeze to death
These chemicals ensure safe drinking water is available to 95% of the population. Different chemicals the railroads deliver ensure sewage water is treated properly
Therefore this a public safety issue and anyone's "feelings" are a distant secondary consideration.
That is pragmatic

Then there is the enormous economic damage this special interest group is inflicting on Canada by illegally shutting down the railroads.
That is pragmatic

My expectation has always been that anyone knowing breaking the law and endangering public safety would be arrested & prosecuted
This is the expectation of anyone within a stable law abiding society
That is pragmatic

This special interest group have openly declared their objective is to "Shut Canada down"
No! Canada needs to shut them down and ensure that do not meet their objective
That is pragmatic

This needs to be fixed, fixed quickly and fixed so that it does not happen again
That is pragmatic
A wise leader will not rush in with troops or cops. That would just cause a backlash and maybe even escalate to terrorism. They will let it play out for a bit and try to negotiate with the parties involved. There should be a workable solution if it is true that a majority of Natives want the pipeline
 

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The job is over his head, he got in because of his good looks and because he's the son of Pierr.e. That's all. He got revoted just because people didn't want Sheer. That's all
 

The Oracle

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Knuckle Ball

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So if you tell a group that has been subjected to racial/cultural genocide by your group (from which you directly benefit today) to check their privilege that's being racist eh?
Yup...that’s being racist.

Why? Does that label bother you for some reason? Why not just be like Steve Bannon and reclaim the label?



 

bver_hunter

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The Oracle said:
So if you tell a group to check their privilege that's being racist eh?

Good to know the next time I hear the term white privilege.

Yup...that’s being racist.

Why? Does that label bother you for some reason? Why not just be like Steve Bannon and reclaim the label?

Absolutely right Knuckle Ball, you nailed it. That is being racist. So Oracle, for a change just take note!!
 

The Oracle

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Yup...that’s being racist.
There’s No Scientific Basis for Race—It's a Made-Up Label
It's been used to define and separate people for millennia. But the concept of race is not grounded in genetics.
The four letters of the genetic code —A, C, G, and T—are projected onto Ryan Lingarmillar, a Ugandan. DNA reveals what skin color obscures: We all have African ancestors.

This story is part of The Race Issue, a special issue of National Geographic that explores how race defines, separates, and unites us. Tell us your story with #IDefineMe.
IN THE FIRST half of the 19th century, one of America’s most prominent scientists was a doctor named Samuel Morton. Morton lived in Philadelphia, and he collected skulls.

He wasn’t choosy about his suppliers. He accepted skulls scavenged from battlefields and snatched from catacombs. One of his most famous craniums belonged to an Irishman who’d been sent as a convict to Tasmania (and ultimately hanged for killing and eating other convicts). With each skull Morton performed the same procedure: He stuffed it with pepper seeds—later he switched to lead shot—which he then decanted to ascertain the volume of the braincase.

Morton believed that people could be divided into five races and that these represented separate acts of creation. The races had distinct characters, which corresponded to their place in a divinely determined hierarchy. Morton’s “craniometry” showed, he claimed, that whites, or “Caucasians,” were the most intelligent of the races. East Asians—Morton used the term “Mongolian”—though “ingenious” and “susceptible of cultivation,” were one step down. Next came Southeast Asians, followed by Native Americans. Blacks, or “Ethiopians,” were at the bottom. In the decades before the Civil War, Morton’s ideas were quickly taken up by the defenders of slavery.

This story helps launch a series about racial, ethnic, and religious groups and their changing roles in 21st-century life. The series runs through 2018 and will include coverage of Muslims, Latinos, Asian Americans, and Native Americans.
Picture of five skulls with labels.
Skulls from the collection of Samuel Morton, the father of scientific racism, illustrate his classification of people into five races—which arose, he claimed, from separate acts of creation. From left to right: a black woman and a white man, both American; an indigenous man from Mexico; a Chinese woman; and a Malaysian man.
PHOTOGRAPH BY ROBERT CLARK
PHOTOGRAPHED AT PENN MUSEUM
“He had a lot of influence, particularly in the South,” says Paul Wolff Mitchell, an anthropologist at the University of Pennsylvania who is showing me the skull collection, now housed at the Penn Museum. We’re standing over the braincase of a particularly large-headed Dutchman who helped inflate Morton’s estimate of Caucasian capacities. When Morton died, in 1851, the Charleston Medical Journal in South Carolina praised him for “giving to the negro his true position as an inferior race.”

Today Morton is known as the father of scientific racism. So many of the horrors of the past few centuries can be traced to the idea that one race is inferior to another that a tour of his collection is a haunting experience. To an uncomfortable degree we still live with Morton’s legacy: Racial distinctions continue to shape our politics, our neighborhoods, and our sense of self.

This is the case even though what science actually has to tell us about race is just the opposite of what Morton contended.


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THE SURPRISING WAY SALIVA BROUGHT THESE SIX STRANGERS TOGETHER
Results from National Geographic’s Geno 2.0 DNA Ancestry Kit revealed that these seemingly unrelated individuals have a shared genetic profile. Read more here.
Morton thought he’d identified immutable and inherited differences among people, but at the time he was working—shortly before Charles Darwin put forth his theory of evolution and long before the discovery of DNA—scientists had no idea how traits were passed on. Researchers who have since looked at people at the genetic level now say that the whole category of race is misconceived. Indeed, when scientists set out to assemble the first complete human genome, which was a composite of several individuals, they deliberately gathered samples from people who self-identified as members of different races. In June 2000, when the results were announced at a White House ceremony, Craig Venter, a pioneer of DNA sequencing, observed, “The concept of race has no genetic or scientific basis.”

Over the past few decades, genetic research has revealed two deep truths about people. The first is that all humans are closely related—more closely related than all chimps, even though there are many more humans around today. Everyone has the same collection of genes, but with the exception of identical twins, everyone has slightly different versions of some of them. Studies of this genetic diversity have allowed scientists to reconstruct a kind of family tree of human populations. That has revealed the second deep truth: In a very real sense, all people alive today are Africans.

Our species, Homo sapiens, evolved in Africa—no one is sure of the exact time or place. The most recent fossil find, from Morocco, suggests that anatomically modern human features began appearing as long as 300,000 years ago. For the next 200,000 years or so, we remained in Africa, but already during that period, groups began to move to different parts of the continent and become isolated from one another—in effect founding new populations.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/04/race-genetics-science-africa/

Your construct doesn't exist apparently.
 
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