Why is Israel not expected to comply with UN Resolution 242?

[doggystyle99]

They are an independent nation. Heavily financed militarily I agree. But you might as well say Canada is as well by that criteria.

And if you don't think that we don't benefit from the USA paying for things I guess you have never heard of NORAD, or NATO.

Or shared intelligence, the bulk of which comes from USA sources.

You didn't actually address the things I said the USA pays for to secure Canada did you? How much has NORAD cost. Tens of billions. Look it up. And it's a binary treaty.

Let alone the extra burden they pay in Nato costs.

And who know how much free Intel they gather and share with us.

We are just as much a beneficiary and client for USA military protection as anyone. To think otherwise is to put your head in the sand.

So I said the USA pays more.
You just proved the USA pays more.
And by your own admission again. They do it for control.
Thanks for that!

Butler100%Exposed
You make shit up as you go and you have little to no clue of what you speak of, hence why your stories/opinions keep changing.

Let me say it again there is a difference between the United States giving a yearly military aide in the tune of $3-4Bln to Israel than every single one of those things you mention above.

And again as you claimed originally the "USA paying for things I guess you have never heard of NORAD" and it "costing tens of billions" you tried to make it sound the US pays for NORAD they don't it's a Bi Nationaltion Military Organization that Canada contributes financial resources, physical assets and personnel to NORAD. Specifically, Canada's NORAD contribution includes Canadian Armed Forces personnel serving in NORAD-related activities in both the U.S. and Canada; fighter aircraft on alert status during normal operations; the operation and maintenance of the Canadian portion of the North Warning System – a chain of radar stations along the northern edge of North America; and, forward operating locations to support fighter operations in the North.

 

[Butler1000]

Butler100%Exposed

Let me say it again there is a difference between the United States giving a yearly military aide in the tune of $3-4Bln to Israel than every single one of those things you mention above.

And again as you claimed originally the "USA paying for things I guess you have never heard of NORAD" and it "costing tens of billions" you tried to make it sound the US pays for NORAD they don't it's a Bi Nationaltion Military Organization that Canada contributes financial resources, physical assets and personnel to NORAD. Specifically, Canada's NORAD contribution includes Canadian Armed Forces personnel serving in NORAD-related activities in both the U.S. and Canada; fighter aircraft on alert status during normal operations; the operation and maintenance of the Canadian portion of the North Warning System – a chain of radar stations along the northern edge of North America; and, forward operating locations to support fighter operations in the North.

So.....I'm still right?

Thanks!

 

[doggystyle99]

So.....I'm still right?

Thanks!

Butler100%Exposed
You weren't right and still aren't right. NORAD is not the Canadian military, learn the difference. And even with NORAD Canada provides financial support into.
And giving a military aide to Israel in the tune of $3-4Bln/year is different than being a part of NORAD and having a close relationship with the United States.

 

[Butler1000]

Butler100%Exposed
You weren't right and still aren't right. NORAD is not the Canadian military, learn the difference.
And giving a military aide to Israel in the tune of $3-4Bln/year is different than being a part of NORAD and having a close relationship with the United States.

So. More semantics?

Right NORAD isn't a part of the military......but it's staffed by Mitary personal and the response comes from the military for any intrusion.

And it's purpose is to detect a military incursion.

You're doing well! No really! Keep going. I'm enjoying this.

 

[doggystyle99]

So. More semantics?

Right NORAD isn't a part of the military......but it's staffed by Mitary personal and the response comes from the military for any intrusion.

And it's purpose is to detect a military incursion.

You're doing well! No really! Keep going. I'm enjoying this.

Butler100%Exposed
Learn the definition of semantics
Again Canada pays into NORAD, Canada pays for it's own military (RCAF, C A F, RCN). It is different than the United States giving military aide to Israel in the tune of $3-4Bln/year.
You're doing really well in not understanding the difference between the United States giving Israel a $3-4Bln/year military aide and Canada having a close relationship with the USA and being in a Bi National Military Organization with them called NORAD, keep going with your delusion.

 

[Butler1000]

Butler100%Exposed
Learn the definition of semantics
Again Canada pays into NORAD, Canada pays for it's own military (RCAF, C A F, RCN). It is different than the United States giving military aide to Israel in the tune of $3-4Bln/year.
You're doing really well in not understanding the difference between the United States giving Israel a $3-4Bln/year military aide and Canada having a close relationship with the USA and being in a Bi National Military Organization with them called NORAD, keep going with your delusion.

Stop it! Yer making me laugh!

What do you think the military aid consists of? Perhaps basing rights? Hardware interfered with the USA defense forces both in and near to Israel?

Equipment like detection systems? Discounts on other hardware.

Last I checked Israel pays for its own military as well. And has kicked quite a bit of ass with it too.

Seriously, you need to give this up. You keep repeating (are you cutting and pasting parts?) Yourself, adding more nonsense and looking bad.

The USA isxwe acknowledged as tge bug spender. Whatever semantics are used to save face and continue with the illusion of sovereignty it's this simple.

We accept aid in the form of a bilateral treaty where they pay more. Just like Israel. Maybe the numbers are different, and the language ( Israel seems to have MORE autonomy) but it's the same thing.

 

[Frankfooter]

Last I checked Israel pays for its own military as well. And has kicked quite a bit of ass with it too.

So why do they need billions from the US?

 

[Butler1000]

So why do they need billions from the US?

Why turn down extra help? And I'm pretty sure they are a testing ground. Iron dome as an example.

 

[Frankfooter]

Why turn down extra help? And I'm pretty sure they are a testing ground. Iron dome as an example.

Great reason to take away all funding.

“The Lab”: Israel Tests Weapons, Tactics On Captive Palestinian Population

https://www.wrmea.org/013-september...actics-on-captive-palestinian-population.html

Israel pharmaceutical firms test medicines on Palestinian prisoners

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...irms-test-medicines-on-palestinian-prisoners/

You claim to be against war, is that as real as your support for Sanders?

Iraq coalition calls Israeli strikes a 'declaration of war'

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...tion-israeli-strikes-declaration-war-65191119

Lebanon's President Aoun likens Israeli drones to 'declaration of war'

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-security-lebanon-idUSKCN1VG1H0

 

[doggystyle99]

Stop it! Yer making me laugh!

What do you think the military aid consists of? Perhaps basing rights? Hardware interfered with the USA defense forces both in and near to Israel?

Equipment like detection systems? Discounts on other hardware.

Last I checked Israel pays for its own military as well. And has kicked quite a bit of ass with it too.

Seriously, you need to give this up. You keep repeating (are you cutting and pasting parts?) Yourself, adding more nonsense and looking bad.

The USA isxwe acknowledged as tge bug spender. Whatever semantics are used to save face and continue with the illusion of sovereignty it's this simple.

We accept aid in the form of a bilateral treaty where they pay more. Just like Israel. Maybe the numbers are different, and the language ( Israel seems to have MORE autonomy) but it's the same thing.

Butler100%Exposed
Still no comprehension on your part in terms of understanding that the United States giving Israel a $3-4Bln/year military aide is different than Canada having a close relationship with the United States and being in a Bi National Military Organization with them called NORAD. Which both Canada and United States provide financial resources into.
Again Canada pays for it's own military and does not receive military financial aides through other countres. It's very simple to understand the difference but I see you like to argue your opinion rather than the facts.
Israel does not fully pay for their own military, they are and have been funded in the form of military aide every year from the United States Of America. and that's a fact not one's opinion.

 

[basketcase]

...
With Saudi Arabia, we get nothing but oil, nothing else to boycott.

Would be a good place to start.

I think one aspect is Jews have been an outsider inside western society for long enough that there is inertia in people's views of them, especially when it comes to the conception that a few successful Jews are a sign of an undue influence and an allegiance to someplace other than their own country. Simply put, anti-semitism is a well entrenched part of our society.

I would also add that the British Mandate and the British desire to control oil caused them to see the Zionist movement as troublemakers. For example, Jordan's army in 1949 was equipped and led by British officers.

I also think that Jews/Israel are seen enough like white Christian Europeans for people to conceptualize but different enough to comment on.


That and it would be to inconvenient to boycott China or the oil producers while with Israel Canadians can boycott Sabra humus while pretending that our technology and medicine don't have significant Israeli connections.

 

[basketcase]

Whataboutism = Weak Minded

Yet points out the ridiculous fixation some people have.

 

[basketcase]

Oslo shows that Palestinians did everything you wanted them to do...

Such as stop terrorism? You must be reading different history books than the rest of us. To this day, Hamas is still planning and celebrating attacks on civilians.

 

[Big Sleazy]

Didn't the self procliamed Chosenites just bomb Lebannon, Syria, and Iraq ? I love the way Nodding-Yahoo campaigns for the upcoming election in September. Bomb three countries and divert from the multi billion dollar corruption probe he's up to his neck in. If he loses. He's likely going to jail and disgraced. I guess bombing three Countries might work.

 

[jcpro]

Didn't the self procliamed Chosenites just bomb Lebannon, Syria, and Iraq ? I love the way Nodding-Yahoo campaigns for the upcoming election in September. Bomb three countries and divert from the multi billion dollar corruption probe he's up to his neck in. If he loses. He's likely going to jail and disgraced. I guess bombing three Countries might work.

Yes, it's our fault that the West fucked up Iraq and Syria and put the Iranian nut cases right on the Israeli border. Btw, Israel got mortared this week. Not a front news item.

 

[Frankfooter]

Such as stop terrorism? You must be reading different history books than the rest of us. To this day, Hamas is still planning and celebrating attacks on civilians.

Canard.

Since 2009 Israel has killed about 3500 Palestinians, while Palestinians have killed about 60 Israeli civilians over the same time.
https://www.btselem.org/statistics/fatalities/after-cast-lead/by-date-of-event

In that same period, according to B'teselem, Israel killed 782 children, meaning Israel killed over 10 times as many children as Palestinians did civilians, and that Israel killed about 600 times as many Palestinians in general.

The numbers show that the military occupying power kills way more civilians than Palestinians or Hamas.
So if you're really against the killing of civilians you should be criticizing Israel more than Hamas.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yes, it's our fault that the West fucked up Iraq and Syria and put the Iranian nut cases right on the Israeli border. Btw, Israel got mortared this week. Not a front news item.

Either is the fact that Israel attacked Syria, Iraq and Lebanon with military operations in each of those countries.

 

[jcpro]

Either is the fact that Israel attacked Syria, Iraq and Lebanon with military operations in each of those countries.

So what? Southern Lebanon is controlled by Hizbullah who are financed by Iran. The rest of Lebanon is a Syrian proxy. Syria allied itself with Iran. Iraq is not even a country anymore. An ounce of prevention, even of the bitter kind, beats an Olympic swimming pool of Israeli blood any day of the week.

 

[Frankfooter]

So what? Southern Lebanon is controlled by Hizbullah who are financed by Iran. The rest of Lebanon is a Syrian proxy. Syria allied itself with Iran. Iraq is not even a country anymore. An ounce of prevention, even of the bitter kind, beats an Olympic swimming pool of Israeli blood any day of the week.

All it does is establish that Israel is a warmonger, just as they are in Palestine.
And Israel's apartheid occupation of Palestine (which is not even a country any more) and the open air prison/ghetto of Gaza are a swimming pool of Israeli created blood every Friday of every week.

 

[jcpro]

All it does is establish that Israel is a warmonger, just as they are in Palestine.
And Israel's apartheid occupation of Palestine (which is not even a country any more) and the open air prison/ghetto of Gaza are a swimming pool of Israeli created blood every Friday of every week.

ROFLMAO!!! Nobody, absolutely no country in the region wants anything to do with the Palestinian Arabs. Egypt is blockading Gaza as vigilantly as Israel- their own former "citizens". So do the Jordanians- no love lost, there either. LOL! Warmongering is the only thing they understand. Thanks for a laugh.