Whatever he's slashed in payroll, he's lost more in revenues. I wonder what average attendance is so far this year.
The Blue Jays 2019 Season
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Easy to find out. Average attendance in 2019 is under 20,000 at 19,841, down 30.88%, from 28,707 last year. What a drop from 39,554 in 2017 and 41,878 in 2018.Whatever he's slashed in payroll, he's lost more in revenues. I wonder what average attendance is so far this year.
Thanks.Easy to find out. Average attendance in 2019 is under 20,000 at 19,841, down 30.88%, from 28,707 last year. What a drop from 39,554 in 2017 and 41,878 in 2018.
Should that be 2016?
That is over 20,000 less fans/game or 1.6-1.7M for the season. Between ticket cost, spending at the park, merchandise sales and decreased ad revenue from decreased viewership, I'd say they are losing about $150M per season in revenue. Actually, Jays' average ticket price was about $7 less in 2018 than in 2017, which means they are making less even on the fans that do attend.
The last I checked Rogers is a for profit entity and has a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders. At this point, I can't imagine that they are terribly satisfied with shapeero's results.
No wonder my cable bill is up. "Penny wise, pound foolish."I'd say they are losing about $150M per season in revenue.
Why can't the Jays follow the Red Sox model? Incompetence?
Wow, great business model they got going thereThanks.
Should that be 2016?
That is over 20,000 less fans/game or 1.6-1.7M for the season. Between ticket cost, spending at the park, merchandise sales and decreased ad revenue from decreased viewership, I'd say they are losing about $150M per season in revenue. Actually, Jays' average ticket price was about $7 less in 2018 than in 2017, which means they are making less even on the fans that do attend
There are very few things on which I agree with you, but we are on the same page here. It is not incompetence.No wonder my cable bill is up. "Penny wise, pound foolish."
Why can't the Jays follow the Red Sox model? Incompetence?
It is cheapness. It is running a team in a big market, Toronto/Canada, like a small market team.
Recently saw a breakdown of ownerships and their net worth. Edward Rogers is far and away the richest owner in MLB. Net worth of over $11B. 2nd place was Frisco owner at $6B. Then there was someone at $4B, possibly Boston. Steinbrenner was $3.something billion.
So we have a big market and a very rich owner. And our team is going through what looks like will be a verrry long rebuild. Something here doesn't seem right. Form your own conclusions.
I will say that if the Jays can somehow manage to play comfortably above .500 (85 or 86 wins) by next year and look to seriously make the playoffs in '21, I will admit that I sold shapeero short. But in my opinion, for a team with all the resources that Toronto has, 6 years is plenty of time to get things done.
If this team isn't seriously in contention by 2021, these two were epic failures. 6 years is for sure a fair time. The problem is, the way this works these days is these guys tell ownership about their "5 year plan" and so they basically get that time frame to prove it.There are very few things on which I agree with you, but we are on the same page here. It is not incompetence.
It is cheapness. It is running a team in a big market, Toronto/Canada, like a small market team.
Recently saw a breakdown of ownerships and their net worth. Edward Rogers is far and away the richest owner in MLB. Net worth of over $11B. 2nd place was Frisco owner at $6B. Then there was someone at $4B, possibly Boston. Steinbrenner was $3.something billion.
So we have a big market and a very rich owner. And our team is going through what looks like will be a verrry long rebuild. Something here doesn't seem right. Form your own conclusions.
I will say that if the Jays can somehow manage to play comfortably above .500 (85 or 86 wins) by next year and look to seriously make the playoffs in '21, I will admit that I sold shapeero short. But in my opinion, for a team with all the resources that Toronto has, 6 years is plenty of time to get things done.
The spending is coming. They only have 36 million committed in payroll next year. Not saying they're going to spend next year. If they don't feel the young guns are quite developed enough yet, they'll wait one more year.
Aaron Sanchez and Marcus Stroman were supposed to be our young stars. I think Stroman should move to a team that can score him some runs.
Why no one mentioned Junior hit another HR (over 400 feet again)? He is now only 13 behind the HOF Junior.
Why no one mentioned Junior hit another HR (over 400 feet again)? He is now only 13 behind the HOF Junior.
He got a nice assist from the centre-fielder. I hope he bought him a beer after the gameWhy no one mentioned Junior hit another HR (over 400 feet again)?
So what are you saying here, shack??There are very few things on which I agree with you, but we are on the same page here. It is not incompetence.
It is cheapness. It is running a team in a big market, Toronto/Canada, like a small market team.
Recently saw a breakdown of ownerships and their net worth. Edward Rogers is far and away the richest owner in MLB. Net worth of over $11B. 2nd place was Frisco owner at $6B. Then there was someone at $4B, possibly Boston. Steinbrenner was $3.something billion
Rogers is just bleeding the team dry and doesnt care about putting a winning team on the field??
Why no one mentioned Junior hit another HR (over 400 feet again)?
Can someone explain why Jr was credited with a home run?
The outfielder attempted to catch ball, (the ball would have hit the wall and bounced back into the outfield if the outfielder did not make a play for it) the ball bounced off the outfielder's glove and over the wall and into the stands.
Should that not be an error charged to the outfielder? The out fielder got there in time and the ball was catchable.
Another example is the inafmous ball that bounced off Jose Canseco's head and over the wall , lol, and was ruled a home run.
Outfielder is considered part of the playing field, so if it bounces off him and out of the park its a HRCan someone explain why Jr was credited with a home run?
The outfielder attempted to catch ball, (the ball would have hit the wall and bounced back into the outfield if the outfielder did not make a play for it) the ball bounced off the outfielder's glove and over the wall and into the stands.
Should that not be an error charged to the outfielder? The out fielder got there in time and the ball was catchable.
Another example is the inafmous ball that bounced off Jose Canseco's head and over the wall , lol, and was ruled a home run
Edward Rogers does not own the Toronto Blue Jays.Recently saw a breakdown of ownerships and their net worth. Edward Rogers is far and away the richest owner in MLB. Net worth of over $11B. 2nd place was Frisco owner at $6B. Then there was someone at $4B, possibly Boston. Steinbrenner was $3.something billion.
So we have a big market and a very rich owner. And our team is going through what looks like will be a verrry long rebuild. Something here doesn't seem right. Form your own conclusions.
I will say that if the Jays can somehow manage to play comfortably above .500 (85 or 86 wins) by next year and look to seriously make the playoffs in '21, I will admit that I sold shapeero short. But in my opinion, for a team with all the resources that Toronto has, 6 years is plenty of time to get things done.
Rogers Communications owns the Toronto Blue Jays.
There is a big difference.
But Ed calls the shots, does he not??Edward Rogers does not own the Toronto Blue Jays.
Rogers Communications owns the Toronto Blue Jays.
There is a big difference
BTW, hitting like .365 in his last 7 games FYI.He got a nice assist from the centre-fielder. I hope he bought him a beer after the game
I do know that but when I searched that list of owners they listed the individuals, not the corporations. Rogers' picture was there and his net worth of over 11 billion dollars.Edward Rogers does not own the Toronto Blue Jays.
Rogers Communications owns the Toronto Blue Jays.
There is a big difference.
Maybe the most famous one of those.Outfielder is considered part of the playing field, so if it bounces off him and out of the park its a HR
Hey Phil, when you are finished with this new girl in your sig pic, I'd like to marry her.
I would say the board (Not Edward) calls the shots.But Ed calls the shots, does he not??
They have to answer to their shareholders.
There was a very interesting article in The Globe & Mail a few years ago that somewhat explains why Rogers funds the Blue Jays the way they do, and yet MLSE (Rogers/Bell/Tannenbaum) conduct their business in a completely different manner.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/spo...ing-blame-an-accounting-rule/article28709405/
