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Smallcock

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This is what Bernie and AOC would bring to the US.

National guards arresting/attacking other national guards:
https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1123211269572575233

Maduro's national guard just ran over a group of pro-Guaido protesters in Venezuela
https://twitter.com/LadyLov45/status/1123261576893669377

I saw a video last week of two beheaded men, purportedly beheaded for supporting the government. Men were holding up the severed heads, cracking jokes and so on. Stomach-churning cruelty and suffering.

Never lay down your guns. Always stay armed. The future is always uncertain.
 
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Smallcock said:
This is what Bernie and AOC would bring to the US.

National guards arresting/attacking other national guards:
https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1123211269572575233

Maduro's national guard just ran over a group of pro-Guaido protesters in Venezuela
https://twitter.com/LadyLov45/status/1123261576893669377

I saw a video last week of two beheaded men, purportedly beheaded for supporting the government. Men were holding up the severed heads, cracking jokes and so on. Stomach-churning cruelty and suffering.

Never lay down your guns. Always stay armed. The future is always uncertain.
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Do you really think affordable healthcare, better education opportunities and more level tax base while keeping a capitalist based economy will result in street riots?

There aren't enough ogliarchs to get a decent sized mob together.
 
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Democracy has never been about "majority rules", because they always rule sooner or later, by vote or by violence, in every system. What makes a democracy is that the losing minority peacefully accepts election results, knowing they and their rights will be respected, and they can safely wait and win the next time. Venezuela clearly failed that test.

However the OP made it clear his thread is really not Venezuela about at all, but about the US of A. We should remember that its President was never anything like a majority choice — and by all odds so far, never will be — nor have his people treated the losing side, or the system itself, with anything like respect. The only thing narrowly keeping that republic among the democracies is the dwindling faith that its elections are meaningful and will be respected at every level, from the highest on down.
 
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oldjones said:
Democracy has never been about "majority rules", because they always rule sooner or later, by vote or by violence, in every system. What makes a democracy is that the losing minority peacefully accepts election results, knowing they and their rights will be respected, and they can safely wait and win the next time. Venezuela clearly failed that test.

However the OP made it clear his thread is really not Venezuela about at all, but about the US of A. We should remember that its President was never anything like a majority choice — and by all odds so far, never will be — nor have his people treated the losing side, or the system itself, with anything like respect. The only thing narrowly keeping that republic among the democracies is the dwindling faith that its elections are meaningful and will be respected at every level, from the highest on down.
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Odd TDS point to make from someone who lives in a parliamentary democracy where almost no one votes directly for the head of state and no party wins a “majority”
 
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Frankfooter said:
Blame Ford for his 'they can eat cake' bit.
Cutting daycare, healthcare, schools, ttc.....
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So that condones vandalism and murder threats?
Thank the Liberals for the world record breaking debt they left us with...something needs to be cut...that's what grownups do when their teenager goes crazy with the credit card.
 
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Boober69 said:
So that condones vandalism and murder threats?
Thank the Liberals for the world record breaking debt they left us with...something needs to be cut...that's what grownups do when their teenager goes crazy with the credit card.
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Yup, Groggy loves the head chopping deal reminds him of his buddies...
 
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Boober69 said:
So that condones vandalism and murder threats?
Thank the Liberals for the world record breaking debt they left us with...something needs to be cut...that's what grownups do when their teenager goes crazy with the credit card.
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I know, you guys are totally worried about terrorists with prop guillotines running around scaring conservatives.
Ford's cuts are incredibly stupid, he'll be out of power soon enough as he's managing to piss off everyone, including his base.
(except of course for the Trumptards, who back crackheads and conman)


Trump and his team appear to have fucked up again.
They supported and announced their support of what was essentially a coup attempt which failed miserably.
Mudura remains way, way more popular.
video of his supporters on May day
 
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Frankfooter said:
I know, you guys are totally worried about terrorists with prop guillotines running around scaring conservatives.
Ford's cuts are incredibly stupid, he'll be out of power soon enough as he's managing to piss off everyone, including his base.
(except of course for the Trumptards, who back crackheads and conman)


Trump and his team appear to have fucked up again.
They supported and announced their support of what was essentially a coup attempt which failed miserably.
Mudura remains way, way more popular.
video of his supporters on May day
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Don’t you mean Trump, Trudeau and May...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...arks-global-backing-of-venezuela-s-guaido-map
 
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Frankfooter said:
No, Trump.
Trump is the only one talking about sending in armies and the only publicly pushing for a coup so strongly.
Not to mention the blackwater rumours.
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Trump has made an ass of himself in the manner in which he stated that Putin has said that Russia will not intervene in Venezuela. Yet they have Russian and Cuba ground forces there. Then he even stated that Putin has categorically denied Russian involvement in the elections. What a dummy!!
 
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