The Blue Jays 2019 Season

[Nad Smith]

Al Diaz gets traded and slighted. He was our best player last year......which in itself shows how bad the year was

 

[Ref]

Maybe we can trade him to the Mets for Jose Reyes.

LOL! on some level that actually makes sense...

 

[black booty lover]

Looks like they're going to strip the team down to bare bones this year:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/ml...-gm-puts-on-notice/ar-BBQBPwF?ocid=spartanntp

 

[Ref]

Looks like they're going to strip the team down to bare bones this year:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/ml...-gm-puts-on-notice/ar-BBQBPwF?ocid=spartanntp

It looks like they are going nowhere for at least 2 - 3 years so why not get rid of what trade-able assets you have now for some young future talent. Personally I think Stroman is dwindling and is more valuable now than what he will be during mid season. Same thing with Sanchez.

I would rather suffer through a couple of shitty years that will hopefully produce a couple years of contention, as opposed to suffer through years of mediocre teams that will finish in the middle of the pack.

Also, they have a couple of huge contracts that need to run the coarse. The Yanks and Sox are really strong at this point in time so it will be tough to compete against them.

Three years from now a window of opportunity should open up for them. Young talent has matured, big contracts are gone and they can invest in potential free agents and hopefully the Yanks and Sox are on the decline.

 

[shack]

It looks like they are going nowhere for at least 2 - 3 years .

So it has taken shapeero 3 whole years just to make the playoff team he inherited bad enough so that now he can justify a tear down and now we have to wait 4 or 5 more years until they are respectable (possibly).

Maybe AA made some mistakes but he did not leave the team in a place where (if shapeero actually knows what he is doing) it takes 7 or 8 years of putridness (LOL) for us to have a team that we can cheer for. And 7 or 8 years for Rogers to absorb dwindling fan interest/plummeting revenue. Beautiful. Fucking beautiful.

As I keep saying, Toronto is one of the biggest markets in MLB and I guarantee you it would not be tolerated in any comparable market.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I say we start a revolt!!!!!!!

I'm getting my pitchforks ready, dammit!!!!!!!!!!!

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[shack]

I say we start a revolt!!!!!!!

I'm getting my pitchforks ready, dammit!!!!!!!!!!!

https://hips.hearstapps.com/esq.h-cdn.co/assets/16/41/1476642800-cu0agm0w8ae2f0.jpg?resize=980:*

I'm with you.

BTW, which one are you in that picture?

 

[Ref]

As I keep saying, Toronto is one of the biggest markets in MLB and I guarantee you it would not be tolerated in any comparable market.

Unfortunately the fan base is so accommodating that Rogers takes advantage of it similar to how the Leafs took advantage of the fans for decades.

Our salary has been in the top ten of all baseball for several years and has the financial backing to maintain that support. There is no excuse we should not have a team that consistently challenges for a play-off spot similar to other big market teams.

It all comes down to management. As much as I liked AA, until he made those dramatic moves mid season in 2015, he was one of a revolving door of below GM's.

If I recall there were strong rumors that AA was on the way out and that is when he decided to throw caution to the wind and go for it. Had he not made those moves it would have been same old same old as was the previous 20 years. I believe had he felt secure in his position as GM, he would not have made those trades.

 

[black booty lover]

It looks like they are going nowhere for at least 2 - 3 years

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I don't think it's going to be that long. I think by 2020 they'll competitive again. They will spend again in 2020 because the window of having Vlad and company at cheap prices will be short.

 

[shack]

Unfortunately the fan base is so accommodating that Rogers takes advantage of it similar to how the Leafs took advantage of the fans for decades.

Our salary has been in the top ten of all baseball for several years and has the financial backing to maintain that support. There is no excuse we should not have a team that consistently challenges for a play-off spot similar to other big market teams.

Bang on Ref. One difference is that while the Jays fans started to stay away in droves last year, to the tune of a 900,000 decrease in ticket sales, hockey is more woven into the fibre of Toronto, and as such, it was shocking that even maybe a few hundred seats were actually available for a Leafs game.

Let's see if shappero feels the same pressure that you have REFerenced that AA responded to.

 

[gcostanza]

The Toronto Blue Jays have released Troy Tulowitzki, making him a Free Agent.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

The Toronto Blue Jays have released Troy Tulowitzki, making him a Free Agent

Does that mean Jays will still have to pay his salary for remainder of the contract??

I'm assuming yes

 

[black booty lover]

Does that mean Jays will still have to pay his salary for remainder of the contract??

I'm assuming yes

Yes, but it's possible they worked out one of those deferred payment things where they give him the rest of the money over like 10 years instead the next two.

Kind of like what the Mets did with Jason Bay.

 

[saxon]

They still owe Tulo $38 million.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Yes, but it's possible they worked out one of those deferred payment things where they give him the rest of the money over like 10 years instead the next two.

Kind of like what the Mets did with Jason Bay

That would be smart.

Too bad things didnt work out for Tulo, I liked him but injuries are a bitch

 

[shack]

Yes, but it's possible they worked out one of those deferred payment things where they give him the rest of the money over like 10 years instead the next two.

Kind of like what the Mets did with Jason Bay.

Does anything change from the Jays' perspective if Tulo signs with someone else?

 

[azeri99]

Does anything change from the Jays' perspective if Tulo signs with someone else?

No they still have to pay him his full salary, another team can now sign him for $600,000

 

[gcostanza]

Does anything change from the Jays' perspective if Tulo signs with someone else?

Yes.
Say the Oakland Athletics sign Tulo, they pay him the league minimum, and Toronto is on the hook for the balance.

 

[gcostanza]

No they still have to pay him his full salary, another team can now sign him for $600,000

That $600,000 would be deducted from what the Blue Jays owe him.

 

[gcostanza]

Yes, but it's possible they worked out one of those deferred payment things where they give him the rest of the money over like 10 years instead the next two.

Kind of like what the Mets did with Jason Bay.

I wouldn't bother with deferring payments, were I the Blue Jays.
What desire would Tulowitzki have to do that, unless he was making good interest on the deferred payments.
Pay the man the money he's owed, clear the decks of his contract in 3 years.