Trudeau to unveil carbon tax plan Tuesday for provinces that don't comply

[JohnLarue]

How will adding a small carbon tax create inflation.
Show details and your full work.
Let's see you prove you are smarter than the Nobel Prize winner in economics.

I only need to prove that I am smarter than you & that is not hard

It is a tax on carbon stupid
everything you eat, wear, & consume contains carbon & requires hydrocarbon to get it to you & will be subject to incremental taxation directly of indirectly
This will cause inflation, ask an economist

Again you are the one who is 100% absolute in your opinion
And I am saying you do not understand the science, nor the economics behind your position
You support this only because it is a tax and you see any taxation as an opportunity to redistribute wealth
Your commie roots are never far from your decision making

Your position this tax will not cause inflation just proves how limited your economic understanding is.

 

[Frankfooter]

I only need to prove that I am smarter than you & that is not hard

It is a tax on carbon stupid
everything you eat, wear, & consume contains carbon & requires hydrocarbon to get it to you & will be subject to incremental taxation directly of indirectly

Thanks for proving you're stupid, larue.

Proof:

Does the tax apply to diamonds?
Can you tell us what diamonds are made of?

 

[JohnLarue]

Thanks for proving you're stupid, larue.

Proof:

Does the tax apply to diamonds?
Can you tell us what diamonds are made of?

A child-like response from a child like mind

I point out to you that this tax will drive up the cost of necessities of life such as food, heating, light & transportation.
Your response is a completely useless observation that diamonds are made from carbon & will not be subjected to the tax
I guess when low income earners see yet another increase in their Hydro bills, you can alway tell them , hey the money you spend on diamonds has not been impacted by this carbon tax

You are such a moron

 

[Frankfooter]

I only need to prove that I am smarter than you & that is not hard

It is a tax on carbon, smarter person.

proof:

diamonds are made from carbon & will not be subjected to the tax

Those are your words, larure (with the obvious correction to your 'insult', based on who just won this argument)

 

[JohnLarue]

proof:



Those are your words, larure (with the obvious correction to your 'insult', based on who just won this argument)

Pathetic

 

[Frankfooter]

everything you eat, wear, & consume contains carbon & requires hydrocarbon to get it to you & will be subject to incremental taxation directly of indirectly
This will cause inflation, ask an economist

Pathetic

Agreed.

 

[Butler1000]

Try to read this slowly and see if you can understand it.
I know it'll be hard for you, but give it a shot.

Natural gas becomes more expensive so people use federal carbon taxes credits to insulate their house.
That way they burn less natural gas, spend about the same and put less CO2 into the atmosphere.

Electricity in Ontario shifts slightly higher (since most is hydro and nuclear).
People use carbon tax credits to switch to LED bulbs, thereby using less power and paying the same.
And they output less CO2.

Let's see. How about all the people who live in condos and Apartments. Are renters. Or have already insulated their house. And done all those other things.

How about rural people who don't have access to natural gas.

And as LaRue said. Lie income who don't pay taxes so won't get credits.

Watch as they decide Trudeau needs to go next year.

 

[Orion1027]

How will adding a small carbon tax create inflation.
Show details and your full work.
Let's see you prove you are smarter than the Nobel Prize winner in economics.

Obviously you either live in a bubble or you work in the public sector where you are insulated from the reality everybody else is exposed to. This Trudeau will prove to be more damaging to our country than was the last and this is the first step. Manufacturers, shippers and others will simply pass their portion of the tax on to consumers. When will you sheep realize how overtaxed and over regulated we are in Canada and you simply line up for more .

 

[OnTheWayOut]

Obviously you either live in a bubble or you work in the public sector where you are insulated from the reality everybody else is exposed to. This Trudeau will prove to be more damaging to our country than was the last and this is the first step. Manufacturers, shippers and others will simply pass their portion of the tax on to consumers. When will you sheep realize how overtaxed and over regulated we are in Canada and you simply line up for more .

Simple answer is Canada has become a socialist country filled with entitled people who willingly bend over for the government, as long as they "think" the gov't will take care of them and their every need. Talk about misplaced trust, especially with JT at the helm.

 

[JohnLarue]

Agreed.

you agree you're a pathetic fool?

 

[onthebottom]

Doesn’t seem to be working...

https://www.forest-trends.org/ecosy...er-carbon-tax-needed-to-meet-climate-targets/

But by all means, could be really good for US manufacturing

 

[Frankfooter]

Obviously you either live in a bubble or you work in the public sector where you are insulated from the reality everybody else is exposed to. This Trudeau will prove to be more damaging to our country than was the last and this is the first step. Manufacturers, shippers and others will simply pass their portion of the tax on to consumers. When will you sheep realize how overtaxed and over regulated we are in Canada and you simply line up for more .

Obviously you are so fixated on taxes that you can't understand that lowering CO2 output and trying to slow and/or stop the impacts of climate change are actually smart business.
You look only at the price of gas/transportation but forget about the costs of extreme weather events.
These stories are now becoming regular.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...cross-the-maritimes-after-windstorm-1.4891059

Your taxes are going up either way, would you prefer to pay more for extreme weather damages/insurance or a bit more tax on gas?
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-the-costs-of-climate-change-are-rising/

 

[Orion1027]

Obviously you are so fixated on taxes that you can't understand that lowering CO2 output and trying to slow and/or stop the impacts of climate change are actually smart business.
You look only at the price of gas/transportation but forget about the costs of extreme weather events.
These stories are now becoming regular.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...cross-the-maritimes-after-windstorm-1.4891059

Your taxes are going up either way, would you prefer to pay more for extreme weather damages/insurance or a bit more tax on gas?
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-the-costs-of-climate-change-are-rising/

You are either a Boy Scout or totally brain washed and oblivious to the fact that this tax has nothing to do with the environment. Yes, global warning is real and needs to be addressed. What Trudeau is doing is funding his largess and out of control spending under the guise of an environmental tax. I don’t believe him, if he were serious he wouldn’t have flown 300 delegates to the Paris Summit. Trudeau and the liberals are full of shit, and neither the increase in the price of gas or increase in taxes will any effect on me, but it will effect a lot of other people who can’t afford it......read the green energy act and soaring hydro prices..

 

[Frankfooter]

You are either a Boy Scout or totally brain washed and oblivious to the fact that this tax has nothing to do with the environment. Yes, global warning is real and needs to be addressed. .

Sorry onion, but the nobel was just awarded for research stating that a carbon tax is exactly the right thing to do.
Deal with it.

As for your claims about Trudeau, that's just your personal opinion about him.
Its not relevant.

 

[Orion1027]

Sorry onion, but the nobel was just awarded for research stating that a carbon tax is exactly the right thing to do.
Deal with it.

As for your claims about Trudeau, that's just your personal opinion about him.
Its not relevant.

Enlighten me, Trudeau claims he’ll return 90% of the tax to Canadians, with me so far? Secondly, 90% of the tax goes to individual Canadians it becomes a NET TAX to businesses. So far 100% - 90% = 10% ( that goes to collecting the tax and returning it to said Canadians. All those affected businesses will simply pass on their cost increase to consumers, so how is it revenue neutral? Thirdly, Canada going at this alone will have no effect on emissions, this is nothing more than a tax scam.

 

[JohnLarue]

Obviously you are so fixated on taxes that you can't understand that lowering CO2 output and trying to slow and/or stop the impacts of climate change are actually smart business.
You look only at the price of gas/transportation but forget about the costs of extreme weather events.
These stories are now becoming regular.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...cross-the-maritimes-after-windstorm-1.4891059
Your taxes are going up either way, would you prefer to pay more for extreme weather damages/insurance or a bit more tax on gas?
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-the-costs-of-climate-change-are-rising/

How many times does this have to be explained to you ?

Canadians do not get to choose between
A. Justin's carbon tax or
B. the cost of extreme weather events

if Global warning is man made, then Canadians are going to be incurring these so called extreme weather costs in addition to Justin's carbon tax. That tax will not change the outcome
Unless The USA, China , Russia, India & Brazil get on board, then (according to your doomsday theory), the absolute amount of CO2 produced will increase , extreme weather events will continue & get worse, despite Canada's Carbon tax

the only things that tax will accomplish are diminished competitiveness, wealth redistribution, more bureaucracy & a lot of economic pain for low income people & working parents
Do not sell this as a choice Canadians get to make

Do you not understand this plain simple fact or do you prefer to mislead people ?

 

[Frankfooter]

How many times does this have to be explained to you ?

Canadians do not get to choose between
A. Justin's carbon tax or
B. the cost of extreme weather events

if Global warning is man made, then Canadians are going to be incurring these so called extreme weather costs in addition to Justin's carbon tax. That tax will not change the outcome
Unless The USA, China , Russia, India & Brazil get on board, then (according to your doomsday theory), the absolute amount of CO2 produced will increase , extreme weather events will continue & get worse, despite Canada's Carbon tax

the only thing that tax will accomplish is wealth redistribution, more bureaucracy & a lot of economic pain for low income people & working patents
Do not sell this as a choice Canadians get to make

Do you not understand this plain simple fact or do you prefer to mislead people ?

You choose to act or you choose to contribute to fucking up the planet.
Clearly you would rather fuck the planet over for your kids (should some women be unfortunate enough to be stuck with you long enough to breed).

The only way that the rest of the world signs on to carbon taxes is if everyone does it.
I know this is hard for you, but this is the right thing to do.
Not everything is monetary only, you should google the word 'morals' and see if you can understand.

 

[Orion1027]

You choose to act or you choose to contribute to fucking up the planet.
Clearly you would rather fuck the planet over for your kids (should some women be unfortunate enough to be stuck with you long enough to breed).

The only way that the rest of the world signs on to carbon taxes is if everyone does it.
I know this is hard for you, but this is the right thing to do.
Not everything is monetary only, you should google the word 'morals' and see if you can understand.

You don’t seem to get it!!! YES BY ALL MEANS save the planet, All I’m saying is that the Trudeau-Butts-McKenna Kabbalh is only interested in taking your money and using it to fund their pet projects and nothing to do with the environment. BC started their carbon tax as being neutral and money was dedicated to be returned. When the liberal saw what a revenue stream it was, the tax was repurposed into general revenues.....Pooof!!! Neutrality gone!!!

 

[Frankfooter]

You don’t seem to get it!!! YES BY ALL MEANS save the planet, All I’m saying is that the Trudeau-Butts-McKenna Kabbalh is only interested in taking your money and using it to fund their pet projects and nothing to do with the environment. BC started their carbon tax as being neutral and money was dedicated to be returned. When the liberal saw what a revenue stream it was, the tax was repurposed into general revenues.....Pooof!!! Neutrality gone!!!

That's your opinion.
Can you prove it?

 

[Ref]

Fortunately the people of Ontario were given a clear choice at election time and voted in a government that promised to scrap this tax hike.

The people of Ontario have spoken!