Trudeau to unveil carbon tax plan Tuesday for provinces that don't comply

Frankfooter

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Fortunately the people of Ontario were given a clear choice at election time and voted in a government that promised to scrap this tax hike.

The people of Ontario have spoken!
Fortunately the people of Canada were given a clear choice and voted in a government that promised to enact this revenue neutral tax.
All Ford did was:
1) make sure that no revenue went directly to Ontario
2) make it easy for Ontario to get sued for cancelled carbon tax credits
 

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Fortunately the people of Canada were given a clear choice and voted in a government that promised to enact this revenue neutral tax.
All Ford did was:
1) make sure that no revenue went directly to Ontario
2) make it easy for Ontario to get sued for cancelled carbon tax credits
Then he should do what he promised and implement a national liberal carbon tax. Do not leave it up to the provinces to do so. This should be a national plan.

That being said the majority of people in Ontario yelled out a clear "NO" to a carbon tax.

We are close enough to the 2019 election so this should be an election issue - Yes or no.
 

JohnLarue

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You choose to act or you choose to contribute to fucking up the planet.
Clearly you would rather fuck the planet over for your kids (should some women be unfortunate enough to be stuck with you long enough to breed).
I never said that stupid
I am just pointing out you are misrepresenting the facts..... AGAIN

The only way that the rest of the world signs on to carbon taxes is if everyone does it.
And that, stupid, is never going to happen

Communism had the same problem
It was only ever going to work if all countries went commie
Now your wet dream communism is nothing but a history lesson in failed utopian ideals


I know this is hard for you, but this is the right thing to do.
Not everything is monetary only, you should google the word 'morals' and see if you can understand.
Do not dare to preach to me about morals when you are clearly misrepresenting facts
You self righteous, ignorant & lying fool
 

Frankfooter

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Then he should do what he promised and implement a national liberal carbon tax. Do not leave it up to the provinces to do so. This should be a national plan.
He says he will.

Its also disingenuous to claim that voters support every policy of a party when they vote for them.
I doubt very much that Ford was elected because of his carbon tax stance.
 

Frankfooter

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I never said that stupid
I am just pointing out you are misrepresenting the facts..... AGAIN
And that, stupid, is never going to happen
Communism had the same problem
It was only ever going to work if all countries went commie
Now your wet dream communism is nothing but a history lesson in failed utopian ideals
Do not dare to preach to me about morals when you are clearly misrepresenting facts
You self righteous, ignorant & lying fool
More uninformed angry rants.
Just what this board needs.

You probably think that taxes on cigarettes were bad as well, and its bad that people are smoking less.
 

Orion1027

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Fortunately the people of Canada were given a clear choice and voted in a government that promised to enact this revenue neutral tax.
All Ford did was:
1) make sure that no revenue went directly to Ontario
2) make it easy for Ontario to get sued for cancelled carbon tax credits

Without Ontario’s voters it’s hard to become PM, judging from the recent election it appears that “Canadians” don’t want a carbon tax.......buddy, the shine has come off of Trudeau. He will impose the tax, piss everybody off and then fuck it up seven ways to Sunday. This will be his Little Big Horn where he goes to die politically.
 

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Its also disingenuous to claim that voters support every policy of a party when they vote for them.
So then it is probable that when Trudeau was voted in it was not based on his wanting to implement a national carbon tax, it was probably other issues.
 

Frankfooter

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Without Ontario’s voters it’s hard to become PM, judging from the recent election it appears that “Canadians” don’t want a carbon tax.......buddy, the shine has come off of Trudeau. He will impose the tax, piss everybody off and then fuck it up seven ways to Sunday. This will be his Little Big Horn where he goes to die politically.
We'll see, Ford certainly pissed off a good chunk of Toronto with his city council moves. And his sex ed moves are pretty unpopular as well.
He hasn't even put out his first budget and he's not making new friends.

So then it is probable that when Trudeau was voted in it was not based on his wanting to implement a national carbon tax, it was probably other issues.
Quite possibly.
But polls support a carbon tax in Canada.

Its only the troglodytes that don't understand the science, or the anti-tax right wingers that really whine about it still.
 

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We'll see, Ford certainly pissed off a good chunk of Toronto with his city council moves. And his sex ed moves are pretty unpopular as well.
He hasn't even put out his first budget and he's not making new friends.



Quite possibly.
But polls support a carbon tax in Canada.

Its only the troglodytes that don't understand the science, or the anti-tax right wingers that really whine about it still.
Polls also said Hillary was going to be the next president........

This tax will hurt Canadian and will have little to no effect on carbon
example I use 20L of gas to get to work weekly adding 4.5 cents per liter will NOT make me use less I have to get to work
Its cold here in Canada for a good part of the year I HAVE to heat my house I keep the tstat low and use the nest so house is even lower when were not home adding a tax on natural gas will NOT reduce my usage I NEED to heat my home

using transit not an option where I live not to mention its very heavily taxpayer subsidized and the carbon tax will require MORE taxpayer subsidizes to cover increase costs
everything will go up at every single store

If I pay $1k a year in carbon tax giving me back $300. is not revenue neutral for me its revenue negative for me

Trudeau and his 3 year long world wide rockstar touring has spewed more carbon then probably 100 Canadian families in their lives ever will
 

JohnLarue

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More uninformed angry rants.
Just what this board needs.
What do you expect when you misrepresent the facts, misrepresent what I say, accuse me of screwing over my kids and toss in a totally unrelated a jab about relationships?

You are a first class idiot who is incapable of any critical thinking or formulating a balanced opinion, yet you spread falsehoods and misinformation at every opportunity you get
You are the last thing this board needs

You probably think that taxes on cigarettes were bad as well, and its bad that people are smoking less.
Once again your grade 7 level mind posts a totally irrelevant statement
Please ask an adult how to communicate
 

Orion1027

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They just swallow all of Trudeau’s nonsense. Trudeau did promise modest deficits and came in 2 1/2 times higher, said the budget will balance itself and with him in charge we have deficits for another decade. Promised pipelines and all but killed that with his bullshit and bill 69. Promised a revenue neutral carbon tax and it will be anything but neutral. And yet, they keep drinking the Kool aid and digging deep in the yogurt looking for wisdom.
 

Frankfooter

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What do you expect when you misrepresent the facts, misrepresent what I say, accuse me of screwing over my kids and toss in a totally unrelated a jab about relationships?
You are a first class idiot who is incapable of any critical thinking or formulating a balanced opinion, yet you spread falsehoods and misinformation at every opportunity you get
You are the last thing this board needs
Once again your grade 7 level mind posts a totally irrelevant statement
Please ask an adult how to communicate
Oh great, you replied with another uninformed, angry rant.
What a surprise.

You should try reading the news.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/...reme-weather-arctic-amplification-temperature
 

JohnLarue

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Oh great, you replied with another uninformed, angry rant.
What a surprise.

You should try reading the news.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/...reme-weather-arctic-amplification-temperature
Look stupid
The flaws in your fools tax plan were pointed out to you
& rather than make an intelligent counter-argument, you misrepresent the facts, misrepresent what I say, accuse me of screwing over my kids and toss in a totally unrelated a jab about relationships?

Its time you figure out that you are but an ongoing joke, clown , a source of amusement.
You are the only one who does not see this

No go sit in the corner with your dunce cap on
 

Frankfooter

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Look stupid
The flaws in your fools tax plan were pointed out to you
& rather than make an intelligent counter-argument, you misrepresent the facts, misrepresent what I say, accuse me of screwing over my kids and toss in a totally unrelated a jab about relationships?
Its time you figure out that you are but an ongoing joke, clown , a source of amusement.
You are the only one who does not see this
No go sit in the corner with your dunce cap on
Oh, surprise!
Another post filled with lame insults and an uninformed angry rant.

Your 'arguments' have been discussed here, and covered by someone much smarter than you.
(no, not just me, but also Paul Romer, who won the Nobel this year.
'The problem is not knowing what to do,' says Paul Romer, 'The problem is getting a consensus to act'
You should read how he answered your basic questions.
 
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