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Brett Kavanaugh and His Accuser Say They’re Willing to Testify

james t kirk

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It's a tried and true tactic of a seasoned lawyers/political operatives such as Kavanaugh and Graham that when the evidence against you and/or your case becomes 'too hot' to credibly rebut you go full on 'theater of the absurd mode'. Ranting and railing about "never in my life time"; "this is most unethical"; "I am so appalled and outraged"; "this is an orchestrated conspiracy against me"; "blah, blah, blah".

Pure theatrics and over the top performances worthy not of credibility and integrity but of abject dishonesty, deflection and evasiveness pointing to a inward recognition of guilt and an outward display of cowardice and moral decay in being incapable to admit what is obvious.
Americans eat that shit up.

I'm sitting there watching him rant and rave about left wing conspiracy, and the revenge of the Clinton's, and foreign money and looking like he's going to blow a gasket and I'm thinking this guy is off his fucking rocker. And then his sarcastic and condescending tone with the Committee. It was right out of reality TV, not what you'd expect from a nominee for the Supreme Court. I was amazed that the American media actually seemed to find his testimony at all credible.

If it was me up there, and I knew I was innocent I would have shut the whole thing down with, " I WANT an FBI investigation" and "hook me up to a lie detector right now" . But instead Judge Friendly starts yelling and insulting and spouting of about left wing conspiracies. Right away, to my Canadian line of thinking, he's lost the argument.

I'm thinking he has something to hide. I'm glad his stunt didn't work.
 

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Is Kavanaugh an alcoholic


https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...b1e46bb3bc7_story.html?utm_term=.e77e21173114


References to drinking punctuate Brett Kavanaugh’s Georgetown Prep senior yearbook page: “Keg City Club (Treasurer),” “100 Kegs or Bust” and “Beach Week Ralph Club.” The woman who says he sexually assaulted her when they were teenagers described him as “stumbling drunk ” during the alleged incident. A woman who said she was a friend of his at Yale recalled that “Brett was a sloppy drunk, and I know because I drank with him.” Kavanaugh’s high school friend Mark Judge, in his memoir, “Wasted: Tales of a Gen X Drunk,” chronicled blackout drinking at Georgetown Prep and included an anecdote about a “Bart O’Kavanaugh” character who drank, vomited and passed out.

While the boozy yearbook page might be attributable to youthful exaggeration, the outsize role of drinking among affluent teens like Kavanaugh’s classmates is consistent with the patterns seen in developmental psychology research. Over the past few decades — starting at Yale, then Columbia University’s Teachers College and now Arizona State University — my colleagues and I have been studying students in high-achieving, elite schools. These are institutions with excellent test scores, rich extracurricular and advanced academic offerings, and graduates headed to selective colleges and, ultimately, to positions of power as adults. Across the country, we have recurrently found that students at such schools show higher rates of disturbance compared with average American teens. Their problems range from depression, anxiety and self-harm to random acts of delinquency and, yes, abuse of drugs and alcohol.

Not all these students are from wealthy families, but the majority are, and this enables rampant “social” substance abuse. There are always some students at these schools who have the means to buy alcohol and drugs — along with fake IDs of the best quality — and make them freely available to their peers. Nationally representative data have, in fact, shown that teens who attend schools with high proportions of affluent students are much more likely than those at poorer schools to report intoxication and the use of illicit drugs. Inebriation, in turn, often presages casual sex, or hooking up. By all reports, such parties were common at Georgetown Prep and Holton-Arms, the school attended by Christine Blasey Ford, the woman who accuses Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her. “Drinking was part of the fabric of the school from the first day of freshman year to graduation,” a Georgetown Prep alum whose years there overlapped with both Kavanaugh’s and those of Justice Neil Gorsuch has said. Even Gorsuch made a reference to alcohol on his senior yearbook page: “I am not an alkie,” he wrote.



Unfortunately, the norms of peer groups reinforce collective behaviors, at least among boys. Early in our research on teens from diverse backgrounds, we found that in an affluent, suburban high school, boys who reported frequent drug and alcohol use were rated by their peers as among the most well-liked; this was not true among their less-affluent urban counterparts. Suburban girls reporting frequent use also earned many “liked most” nominations but at the same time were named by many as “liked least,” reflecting ambivalence in their classmates’ attitudes. The double standards are well documented: Boys who report high substance use and many sexual conquests are held in high regard and admiration by their schoolmates; their female counterparts may be socially sought after but at the same time are viewed with some disdain and scorn.

These double standards play out, naturally, in the rehashing of major social events. In the aftermath of a drunken night involving sex, there are inevitably feelings of shame among girls — especially when this involves multiple boys in one evening. There are also intense fears that the boys will boast about their conquests, and in fact they do — in person, on social media and, apparently, even in school yearbooks.

Peer attitudes are important, but so are parents, who can contribute to fostering excessive substance use. In affluent school settings, a substantial proportion of students believe that they would easily get away with even egregious, repeated substance use. These teens report that being caught using drugs and alcohol would lead to few real repercussions ; in fact, they say their parents would treat these infractions more leniently than other errant behaviors, such as delinquency, academic indolence or insolence to adults. As one student in an affluent suburb said: “If a kid here is caught with a DUI or distributing drugs, they might have to go to court, but they would be armed with their family lawyer. And of course given this, they almost always get off with no trouble.”

In his book “High Society,” Joseph Califano describes many instances of parents in affluent communities serving alcohol at parties for their high school children or looking the other way when their friends bring alcohol in. Califano, who founded the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse, also notes that “heavy-drinking teens have frequent blackouts and savage their memory, attention span, and spatial skills.”

“I liked beer; I still like beer,” Kavanaugh testified in Thursday’s Senate hearing, called to consider sexual assault allegations against him. But unlike his friend Judge, whom Ford said was present when Kavanaugh assaulted her, Kavanaugh has not acknowledged any blackout drinking on his part, then or now — and he grew combative with Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) when she asked him about it. “So you’re saying there’s never been a case where you drank so much that you didn’t remember what happened the night before or part of what happened?” she asked. He responded: “You’re asking about blackout. I don’t know, have you ?” When the senator pressed for an answer, he again turned the question to her. “I’m curious if you have.”

Whether or not Kavanaugh was a problem drinker, it’s important to emphasize that the behaviors I’ve described are not necessarily limited to adolescence. Frequent substance use in high school can be linked with serious problems of addiction down the road. Among boys from high-achieving schools, we’ve found that as many as 40 percent of them can have diagnoses of drug and alcohol addiction by age 26; parallel rates for women were almost 25 percent. Both of these are at least twice the rates in national normative samples for men and women.
 

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Whole lot of "show me the man and I will show you the crime" in the air.
More like:

"Lindsey give me a hammer to knock this square peg into this round hole".

"Mitch, how about we grease up this pig and put a dress on it".
 

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Americans eat that shit up.

I'm sitting there watching him rant and rave about left wing conspiracy, and the revenge of the Clinton's, and foreign money and looking like he's going to blow a gasket and I'm thinking this guy is off his fucking rocker. And then his sarcastic and condescending tone with the Committee. It was right out of reality TV, not what you'd expect from a nominee for the Supreme Court. I was amazed that the American media actually seemed to find his testimony at all credible.

If it was me up there, and I knew I was innocent I would have shut the whole thing down with, " I WANT an FBI investigation" and "hook me up to a lie detector right now" . But instead Judge Friendly starts yelling and insulting and spouting of about left wing conspiracies. Right away, to my Canadian line of thinking, he's lost the argument.

I'm thinking he has something to hide. I'm glad his stunt didn't work.
I couldn't disagree with you more.
Kavanaugh has already been through 6 FBI investigations. He sat on the 2nd highest court in the land for 12 years. He had to go through an extensive background check.
The onus is on Blasey Ford to prove her allegations. Simple. She has no corroborative evidence. In fact she has 3 witnesses who are all on record as stating they don't recall any such event. She can't even name a date, time or place that this happened.
FBI investigation what a FARCE. There's literally nothing to investigate. Which is why the FBI has already stated that they didn't want to touch it.
But now here we are. Nothing is going to change. It will be just delayed a week and more taxpayer dollars will be sucked up. The media is lapping this up.

BTW did anyone see Sheila Jackson Lee pass an envelope to one of Blasey Ford's lawyers at the hearing?
 

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I couldn't disagree with you more.
Kavanaugh has already been through 6 FBI investigations. He sat on the 2nd highest court in the land for 12 years. He had to go through an extensive background check.
The onus is on Blasey Ford to prove her allegations. Simple. She has no corroborative evidence. In fact she has 3 witnesses who are all on record as stating they don't recall any such event. She can't even name a date, time or place that this happened.
Done, thanks to Kavanaugh.

Ford testified the date and who was there.
Kavanaugh showed his calendar which confirms he was with the friends Ford named.

https://thehill.com/business-a-lobb...-entry-could-be-examined-in-fbi-investigation
 

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Just wait if this gets derailed......


Amy Coney Barret is waiting in the wings. And she is a conservative treat!
 

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Americans eat that shit up.

I'm sitting there watching him rant and rave about left wing conspiracy, and the revenge of the Clinton's, and foreign money and looking like he's going to blow a gasket and I'm thinking this guy is off his fucking rocker. And then his sarcastic and condescending tone with the Committee. It was right out of reality TV, not what you'd expect from a nominee for the Supreme Court. I was amazed that the American media actually seemed to find his testimony at all credible.

If it was me up there, and I knew I was innocent I would have shut the whole thing down with, " I WANT an FBI investigation" and "hook me up to a lie detector right now" . But instead Judge Friendly starts yelling and insulting and spouting of about left wing conspiracies. Right away, to my Canadian line of thinking, he's lost the argument.

I'm thinking he has something to hide. I'm glad his stunt didn't work.
LIe detector is not admissible in court of law ... It is not reliable!
Ford was asked only 2 questions on the lie detector !
 

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Who will still report that she has no memory of a gathering. Or meeting BK.

But it's super nice she supports her friend!
She does not recollect the gathering or knowing BK. But there are other dots that she provides, that the FBI can link it this whole incident.
 

bver_hunter

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LIe detector is not admissible in court of law ... It is not reliable!
Ford was asked only 2 questions on the lie detector !
Ford was asked to relate the whole series of events that occurred and she was then given a polygraph by a former FBI expert in that field. Those were the very relevant questions.
Maybe they will offer a lie detector test to Mark Judge. Remember he cannot lie under testimony to the FBI.
 

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She does not recollect the gathering or knowing BK. But there are other dots that she provides, that the FBI can link it this whole incident.
Seemingly you don't read or don't believe what others post. The FBI will interview people, transcribe the interviews and turn the whole thing over to the Senate Judiciary Committee, but they will not be linking any dots, that isn't what is done in background investigations.
 
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