Science finds 1,500 genetic differences between boys and girls, destroys ‘transgender

oldjones

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...arguments

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/r..._source=lifesitenews+twitter&utm_campaign=LSN

There should be Laws against preaching this BS. Especially to children.
You own source presents no evidence but the headline stating the unfounded and stupid idea that the study "…destroys transgender". The study's authors said no such thing.

They did say
“Overall, sex-specific genes are mainly expressed in the reproductive system, emphasizing the notable physiological distinction between men and women,” the scientists found. “However, scores of genes that are not known to directly associate with reproduction were also found to have sex-specific expression (e.g., the men-specific skin genes),”
Or in other words (mine) being male or female is more complicated than just having a penis or vagina.
 

luckyjackson

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This study wouldn't sway those who oppose biological determinism. They maintain gender is a social construction and are unfazed by arguments grounded in biology. I'm not saying they're right, in fact personally I think it's nuts and logically unsustainable, but I'm just trying to clarify the issue.
 

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oldjones

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the fact that there are sex-specific genes in other parts of the body beyond the reproduction system, like in organs like the skin, does argue against the assertion that trans women and actual women are no different, which is an argument commonly made by trans activists.
If they really thought there was no difference, they wouldn't trans or need to.

It's as idiotic to imagine it's all in the mind as to imagine it's all between your legs. It's part of everything a person is.
 

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It is sad that we need a study for something that obvious. We (men and women) are very different. The claim that you can somehow decide to be who you want is simply absurd. You can technically train/condition a man to think/behave like a dog (there are some known cases of people growing up with animals and seemingly losing all human in them) but that will not make him a dog, only in his mind. So yes, biologically speaking, all those boys that look like girls with dicks between their legs are still boys, and all those "tomboys" are still girls, they just have an altered perception of reality due to socialization gone sideways, that's all.
 

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oldjones

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But are you surprised at the over stretch?

By the way here is the link to the actual article: https://bmcbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12915-017-0352-z
Of course not, it was entirely predictable from the Lounge's thread list.

First thing I do is consider the source. I could wish the poster had. Thanks for providing the link to the real deal. To give the spurious source in the OP its fair due, they actually did link to it, buried in their text and I did read the abstract.
 

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Background
The prevalence of several human morbid phenotypes is sometimes much higher than intuitively expected. This can directly arise from the presence of two sexes, male and female, in one species. Men and women have almost identical genomes but are distinctly dimorphic, with dissimilar disease susceptibilities. Sexually dimorphic traits mainly result from differential expression of genes present in both sexes. Such genes can be subject to different, and even opposing, selection constraints in the two sexes. This can impact human evolution by differential selection on mutations with dissimilar effects on the two sexes.

Results
We comprehensively mapped human sex-differential genetic architecture across 53 tissues. Analyzing available RNA-sequencing data from 544 adults revealed thousands of genes differentially expressed in the reproductive tracts and tissues common to both sexes. Sex-differential genes are related to various biological systems, and suggest new insights into the pathophysiology of diverse human diseases. We also identified a significant association between sex-specific gene transcription and reduced selection efficiency and accumulation of deleterious mutations, which might affect the prevalence of different traits and diseases. Interestingly, many of the sex-specific genes that also undergo reduced selection efficiency are essential for successful reproduction in men or women. This seeming paradox might partially explain the high incidence of human infertility.

Conclusions
This work provides a comprehensive overview of the sex-differential transcriptome and its importance to human evolution and human physiology in health and in disease.

https://bmcbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12915-017-0352-z
 

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Background
The prevalence of several human morbid phenotypes is sometimes much higher than intuitively expected. This can directly arise from the presence of two sexes, male and female, in one species. Men and women have almost identical genomes but are distinctly dimorphic, with dissimilar disease susceptibilities. Sexually dimorphic traits mainly result from differential expression of genes present in both sexes. Such genes can be subject to different, and even opposing, selection constraints in the two sexes. This can impact human evolution by differential selection on mutations with dissimilar effects on the two sexes.

Results
We comprehensively mapped human sex-differential genetic architecture across 53 tissues. Analyzing available RNA-sequencing data from 544 adults revealed thousands of genes differentially expressed in the reproductive tracts and tissues common to both sexes. Sex-differential genes are related to various biological systems, and suggest new insights into the pathophysiology of diverse human diseases. We also identified a significant association between sex-specific gene transcription and reduced selection efficiency and accumulation of deleterious mutations, which might affect the prevalence of different traits and diseases. Interestingly, many of the sex-specific genes that also undergo reduced selection efficiency are essential for successful reproduction in men or women. This seeming paradox might partially explain the high incidence of human infertility.

Conclusions
This work provides a comprehensive overview of the sex-differential transcriptome and its importance to human evolution and human physiology in health and in disease.

https://bmcbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12915-017-0352-z
Yup. Transgender totally destroyed.
 

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Go to live Venezuela or Eritrea, maybe Togo. Start to work in Cuba 70 hours/week, for 15 CAD and trust me : your transgender problem is become an insignificant problem in your life. You won't care anymore. This transgender problem has exist, because you live in an amazing country and you don't have to fight for surviving every day. Other words: I agree there are a few REAL tg people , but most of them just a boring idiot. They have too much time, internet access and money to thinking about themselves. Their life is too easy and too good. LGBTQRTSFHDJQ2 or what the fuck is the name of the community( sorry but I can't follow anymore), are formed in western countries usually. A 3 months Siberian Tour in wintertime or 3 months asphalt jobs in summertime in Cuba, will resolve "Maybe I am a transgender" problem.
 

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Go to live Venezuela or Eritrea, maybe Togo. Start to work in Cuba 70 hours/week, for 15 CAD and trust me : your transgender problem is become an insignificant problem in your life. You won't care anymore. This transgender problem has exist, because you live in an amazing country and you don't have to fight for surviving every day. Other words: I agree there are a few REAL tg people , but most of them just a boring idiot. They have too much time, internet access and money to thinking about themselves. Their life is too easy and too good. LGBTQRTSFHDJQ2 or what the fuck is the name of the community( sorry but I can't follow anymore), are formed in western countries usually. A 3 months Siberian Tour in wintertime or 3 months asphalt jobs in summertime in Cuba, will resolve "Maybe I am a transgender" problem.
bang on. I agree with this to some extant. This is also true for a lot of other "problems" in society. I was 40 before I ever thought of whether I was happy or not. You know why? Because I was too busy raising a family and keeping my head above water. Now I have time, money, am bored half the time and sometimes think about whether I am "happy"
 

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It is sad that we need a study for something that obvious. We (men and women) are very different. The claim that you can somehow decide to be who you want is simply absurd. You can technically train/condition a man to think/behave like a dog (there are some known cases of people growing up with animals and seemingly losing all human in them) but that will not make him a dog, only in his mind. So yes, biologically speaking, all those boys that look like girls with dicks between their legs are still boys, and all those "tomboys" are still girls, they just have an altered perception of reality due to socialization gone sideways, that's all.
Nonsense...... some boy children just naturally grow up feeling and displaying very feminine characteristics. Not due to "training" at all. Just a variation in nature.
 

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Go to live Venezuela or Eritrea, maybe Togo. Start to work in Cuba 70 hours/week, for 15 CAD and trust me : your transgender problem is become an insignificant problem in your life. You won't care anymore. This transgender problem has exist, because you live in an amazing country and you don't have to fight for surviving every day. Other words: I agree there are a few REAL tg people , but most of them just a boring idiot. They have too much time, internet access and money to thinking about themselves. Their life is too easy and too good. LGBTQRTSFHDJQ2 or what the fuck is the name of the community( sorry but I can't follow anymore), are formed in western countries usually. A 3 months Siberian Tour in wintertime or 3 months asphalt jobs in summertime in Cuba, will resolve "Maybe I am a transgender" problem.
Damn right, Iris. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
 
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