Saying “I love you.” during a session with an SP.

[Tashki]

2 things have happened. Clients that were new saying I love you out of the blue, completely disregarding me as a person and just trying to get what they wanted in their star gazed disillusionment.
Second some regulars do actually fall in love, get obsessive, poke their nose in our business, want to know every single thing about our life, try to "save" us, tell their friends and family about us, want to know where we live, ask us to actually date them etc. That is not ok and makes most of us want to run for the hills for safety. Someone who doesn't really know the real you but acts obsessive and in love is not a safe person to be around, love/lust can turn into anger and hate and I've seen some Sps be stalked or outed by angry ex clients.

Thank you for your insight. A few questions for you.

What if you know that your clients know the full understanding that it’s a business relationship and they want keep to it that way and they say “I love you.” to you during the session, Wouldn’t that be okay? If no, Why not?

Also, can’t an SP’s physical appearance, outfit, performance and oxytocins (which is also known as the love hormone btw) they produce in our brains be a reason for us to tell we love them during a session knowing good and well that’s a business relationship and nothing outside of that?

 

[JaimeWolf]

Where exactly does it say he got banned?

He said it himself: https://goo.gl/fZ21FD

 

[yermama]

What if a client and an escort both fall for each other, but neither admits to it because of what is written in threads like this?

 

[gack]

I’ve said “I’m in lust with you” with a regular, and we have a good laugh about it.

I think the SPs on here have been pretty vocal in saying it’s not something they like. My suggestion is either (a) don’t say it, or (b) find an SP who is willing to “role play” that type of conversation.

If it’s that important to you to be able to say it(and to each their own, I’d never judge you for what you want in a relationship or session with an SP) seems like one of those things you might want to clear up first. You don’t want to do something they really don’t like and makes them feel weird, or risk messing up a good relationship with an SP if you have enough chemistry that you want to say it...

 

[Jasmine Raine]

I did not ask a question. I stated my own experiences in paid transactions. Neither of your examples would qualify as servicing the escort. Nor have I ever said anything inappropriate, even during those rare times they occur.

Anything can happen, in an encounter. That is what you do not seem to understand. You have your beliefs, which are negative in all aspects. I have my experiences, which state, they can have other outcomes.

A professional, also should know, that not all encounters, are robotic in nature.

Why are you insisting on trying to fight with me? LOL

I already said you have your opinion and I disagree. So then you agree and say the same thing except you use the word beliefs????? OK..... Confused as to the fighting style when you are agreeing with what I say, but whatev

And yes - You basically asked or inferred to a question when you mentioned clients reactions. So I answered. Just like this thread was a question and I answered. You don't like my answer. I get it, don't care, but I get it.

And I gave examples of NOT servicing an SP and you come back and say the same thing.

Neither of your examples would qualify as servicing the escort.

Ya no shit bud - that is what I said already. LMAO. So again, why you are still debating this with me is beyond me. Other then you just want to fight. Which I have no time nor desire for. Or you could just be one of those people who need to hear themselves talk and always need the last word. Who knows, but stange fighting with someone who is saying the same things as me. Really strange LOL

All I did was come in here and say what a few other escorts have now come in and said as well. I am sorry you don't like the answer being given, but again, the general consensus among SPs is they do not like it being said. I didn't even say MY own opinion on this so you can't say that my "beliefs" are negative in all aspects. I was just giving a heads up to what could happen.

So seriously man, get off my fucking dick already. Thanks!

 

[Jasmine Raine]

There are some very insightful comments here (most by the women). Like most things, generalizing miss's the outliers, those who are not the norm.

Saying "I love you", means different things to everyone. A client, or provider who thinks then says that, may be completing a fantasy, or be emotionally involved. If the latter then that's might be a problem for the speaker and the other person.

But that is always a situational question, that in the right set of circumstance can become dangerous. Women and men, who find themselves in this complicated situation will generally, and rightly, run.

There is no one answer that applies in all circumstances. Thinking there might be is the cause of the arguments here (and maybe some pride too).

Thank you! Some people get it clearly.

You never know how the other person feels about that word. Some feel it is a word of importance and don't like hearing the BS line because of "fantasy". Some feel it is inappropriate given it is a paid transaction, some feel it is a just a word, no big deal. And some will run when they hear it. Many SPs have said they will do the latter. Just to avoid any further awkwardness.

To each your own. However, if it is something that does make someone uncomfortable why say it? And if you don't know ho they will feel, well .... I personally would not put someone in the possible position of feeling uncomfortable just because I feel a need.

And lastly, someone who gets agreeing to disagree. Who would have thunk??? Now if we can just get agreeing to not fight someone when you are agreeing with them - that would just be awesome. LOL.

 

[Parker@TDL]

Thank you! Some people get it clearly.

You never know how the other person feels about that word. Some feel it is a word of importance and don't like hearing the BS line because of "fantasy". Some feel it is inappropriate given it is a paid transaction, some feel it is a just a word, no big deal. And some will run when they hear it. Many SPs have said they will do the latter. Just to avoid any further awkwardness.

To each your own. However, if it is something that does make someone uncomfortable why say it? And if you don't know ho they will feel, well .... I personally would not put someone in the possible position of feeling uncomfortable just because I feel a need.

And lastly, someone who gets agreeing to disagree. Who would have thunk??? Now if we can just get agreeing to not fight someone when you are agreeing with them - that would just be awesome. LOL.

You make excellent points! Everyone is different but for many that is a loaded word. It also suggests infatuation from the speaker and SPs don't want to be the recipient of unhealthy infatuation. That is too messy and potentially dangerous. If you're going to say love then best to just direct it at things about the person like body parts or their attitude etc.

 

[canman1]

Why are you insisting on trying to fight with me? LOL

I already said you have your opinion and I disagree. So then you agree and say the same thing except you use the word beliefs????? OK..... Confused as to the fighting style when you are agreeing with what I say, but whatev

And yes - You basically asked or inferred to a question when you mentioned clients reactions. So I answered. Just like this thread was a question and I answered. You don't like my answer. I get it, don't care, but I get it.

And I gave examples of NOT servicing an SP and you come back and say the same thing.



Ya no shit bud - that is what I said already. LMAO. So again, why you are still debating this with me is beyond me. Other then you just want to fight. Which I have no time nor desire for. Or you could just be one of those people who need to hear themselves talk and always need the last word. Who knows, but stange fighting with someone who is saying the same things as me. Really strange LOL

All I did was come in here and say what a few other escorts have now come in and said as well. I am sorry you don't like the answer being given, but again, the general consensus among SPs is they do not like it being said. I didn't even say MY own opinion on this so you can't say that my "beliefs" are negative in all aspects. I was just giving a heads up to what could happen.

So seriously man, get off my fucking dick already. Thanks!

So much for your end of discussion statement. You are the one doing the put downs, since I do not agree with all your beliefs. My statement if you go back to reading it, is that clients can also be put in the same position by SPs. It is not just one sided. What anyone has to decide, is the reason for it. If it is just lust, as it is in many cases, then it dies a quick death. Odds are it will not be repeated on another visit. Hearing something like "its been so long since I had
a boyfriend', during a first encounter, would probably be a good idea, to avoid a repeat visit. Servicing an SP, would be a 3 hour appointment, running 1 and half hours, overtime. At her request. Now make that 4 and half hours, in foreplay, without ever finishing the encounter. Enjoyable because of its unique type. But I doubt if you would ever get serviced by a client. Your dick would get in the way. (lol)

 

[calculous]

I've said "I love you" in the heat of the moment a few times. None of the girls took it seriously and almost all of them made fun of me after the fact. I was embarrassed at first for slipping up.

It did not deter the escort from inviting me over to her personal condo for the subsequent encounters (I saw her for about 10 times, first 2 times at her agency, 2nd time I blurted it out during mid orgasm).

Next two times I said it during similar circumstances.

2) The escort's reply was classic "You love me huh? you fucking liar".
3) The escort's reply was "Sure you do!"

I like the escorts who have responded sarcastically and realize that 99% of men are not seeing escorts to find real love. Clearly some escorts have fairly large egos or are overly influenced by the 1-2 bad love sick puppies they have seen.

 

[calculous]

Meh, doesn't sound like a big deal. I don't take things too seriously so it wouldn't phase me much. If they were actually declaring their love for me, and made it known that they meant it, then I would stop seeing them. I wouldn't want to lead them on or encourage an unhealthy obsession to take place.

I've read a few of your posts, you seem to have a good head on your shoulders (I have no clue what you even look like, so totally basing everything from your posts only).

Just curious, how often do guys say it and mean it? i.e this "unhealthy obsession" how often does it occur?

 

[frankcastle]

OP are you genuinely saying it or is it just something you like saying in the moment?

Personally I think there's nothing wrong with saying it. I mean there are dudes who would call the SP "dirty cum slut whore" they've heard way worse.

 

[Tashki]

OP are you genuinely saying it or is it just something you like saying in the moment?

Personally I think there's nothing wrong with saying it. I mean there are dudes who would call the SP "dirty cum slut whore" they've heard way worse.

With my regulars I end up saying it a few seconds before they make me ejaculate or when they give me a big orgasm.

 

[Parker@TDL]

I've read a few of your posts, you seem to have a good head on your shoulders (I have no clue what you even look like, so totally basing everything from your posts only).

Just curious, how often do guys say it and mean it? i.e this "unhealthy obsession" how often does it occur?

So far, in my work, I haven't had anyone say that to me. To know if they actually mean it in a serious way you would have to listen to how they say it and when they say it. Are they actually in love with you or is it just affection? Not necessarily a guaranteed analysis but you have to go on what you interpret. I'm not sure how many really mean it and how often an unhealthy obsession occurs. There are definitely ladies on this board and in this industry that have experienced it. Prevention is the best measure, and once they say I love you in a meaningful/serious/genuine way it's best to stop seeing them. If they say it during sex or while I'm pleasing them I really wouldn't take that seriously. That's just in the throws of lust.

 

[frankcastle]

With my regulars I end up saying it a few seconds before they make me ejaculate or when they give me a big orgasm.

I wouldn't worry about it. Sounds like that's "your thing"

Everyone has their own quirks with regards to how they conduct themselves during sex.

Sure some SPs might react strangly to it but they will get over it. Far worse things have been uttered o SPs.

 

[belette68]

So far, in my work, I haven't had anyone say that to me. To know if they actually mean it in a serious way you would have to listen to how they say it and when they say it. Are they actually in love with you or is it just affection? Not necessarily a guaranteed analysis but you have to go on what you interpret. I'm not sure how many really mean it and how often an unhealthy obsession occurs. There are definitely ladies on this board and in this industry that have experienced it. Prevention is the best measure, and once they say I love you in a meaningful/serious/genuine way it's best to stop seeing them. If they say it during sex or while I'm pleasing them I really wouldn't take that seriously. That's just in the throws of lust.

Right you are Parker! I've seen some SP's (not all the time tho) that were so fun, fresh, and cool who provided such a memorable moment that I may have uttered the words "I love you" during the heat of the moment. But in reality it was more like: "I like what you're doing so much or I love what you're doing so much" which is quite different than a real sincere "I love you". Beside, true love is something that develop over time. It's hard to believe that after 30 minutes or 1 hour of meeting a lady you know nothing about, you can sincerely say I love you!! I love you, is a serious commitment to make to someone and it has lots of implications. I love my wife dearly, I really do. We have 3 kids and a lifetime of memories. I'd do anything for her. So it's a serious thing. I hobby because it keeps the balance in my marriage. It kind of like the force in Star Wars. It prevents me from doing something stupid like divorcing. It's actually pretty cool when you're an older guy, to be able to have sex with a women half your age. It keeps you young at heart and re-charge your batteries. I pinch myself every time I have the chance to meet a cool SP even if I'm well aware that it's a service I've just paid for! I don't expect she's gonna fall in love with me and don't expect to fall in love with her either. It takes a very special women for being cool with having sex with older stranger men. Even if it's for money. I think being an SP, is the most difficult job there is and you ladies, should be commended everyday for it... So for that, I love you Parker. Lol xo

 

[michaelj]

If I let it slip out, I wouldn't sweat it. I get pretty wrapped up in my encounters & I actually can feel like I love the person I am making love to at the time (sometimes hard not to with a beautiful young woman that makes you feel like a god). I've been aware enough to keep it buttoned up, but the women I've seen don't seem like they would take it that seriously. I see Indys, so they are probably used to a lot of different responses. I would worry more about spooking a young agency girl with something like that & would feel the need to explain.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

I've said it. After the session, she said "don't tell me you love me. Do you know how many times a day I hear that. Do you know how boring that is to me?"
Another time the same girl said to me on the phone. "You don't love me. you just love my body"
Just no pleasing some people. and yes. I got dumped.

 

[Parker@TDL]

Right you are Parker! I've seen some SP's (not all the time tho) that were so fun, fresh, and cool who provided such a memorable moment that I may have uttered the words "I love you" during the heat of the moment. But in reality it was more like: "I like what you're doing so much or I love what you're doing so much" which is quite different than a real sincere "I love you". Beside, true love is something that develop over time. It's hard to believe that after 30 minutes or 1 hour of meeting a lady you know nothing about, you can sincerely say I love you!! I love you, is a serious commitment to make to someone and it has lots of implications. I love my wife dearly, I really do. We have 3 kids and a lifetime of memories. I'd do anything for her. So it's a serious thing. I hobby because it keeps the balance in my marriage. It kind of like the force in Star Wars. It prevents me from doing something stupid like divorcing. It's actually pretty cool when you're an older guy, to be able to have sex with a women half your age. It keeps you young at heart and re-charge your batteries. I pinch myself every time I have the chance to meet a cool SP even if I'm well aware that it's a service I've just paid for! I don't expect she's gonna fall in love with me and don't expect to fall in love with her either. It takes a very special women for being cool with having sex with older stranger men. Even if it's for money. I think being an SP, is the most difficult job there is and you ladies, should be commended everyday for it... So for that, I love you Parker. Lol xo

Haha!! Well thank-you for the love!! As you said, it's not really possible to develop actual love in 1 hour. But people can confuse infatuation with love(you see it in the beginning of relationships often)and it is totally possible to become infatuated with someone in a very short time. Most people don't want to be on the receiving end of someone's infatuation that has turned to obsession. SPs especially don't want that, so I see why any uttering of "I love you" would lead them to drop a client. In my personal life, I've had guys that were infatuated with me. Something that was consistent with that infatuation was that they really didn't know me. They had this love and want for me but it was based off an idea of me. They created a version of me in their head and latched onto it. I find that infatuation stops you from actually getting to know the person. You just really like how this person you've created in your head makes you feel. That's why relationships can just crumble after the honeymoon stage. They've been infatuated and in lust, and didn't get to really know the person. That infatuation wears off and you can realize that you're with someone that you don't even like.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Haha!! Well thank-you for the love!! As you said, it's not really possible to develop actual love in 1 hour. But people can confuse infatuation with love(you see it in the beginning of relationships often)and it is totally possible to become infatuated with someone in a very short time. Most people don't want to be on the receiving end of someone's infatuation that has turned to obsession. SPs especially don't want that, so I see why any uttering of "I love you" would lead them to drop a client. In my personal life, I've had guys that were infatuated with me. Something that was consistent with that infatuation was that they really didn't know me. They had this love and want for me but it was based off an idea of me. They created a version of me in their head and latched onto it. I find that infatuation stops you from actually getting to know the person. You just really like how this person you've created in your head makes you feel. That's why relationships can just crumble after the honeymoon stage. They've been infatuated and in lust, and didn't get to really know the person. That infatuation wears off and you can realize that you're with someone that you don't even like.

That’s puppy love. When there’s no logical compatiblity (distance, jobs, cultures, etc) but there is quick attraction sexually and emotionally. Just superficial.

Then reality hits. Reminds me of the film “the graduate”. The look at the end of the movie when logic finally hits.

 

[_Melissa]

I feel like saying I love you makes things awkward. You may love what I do for you and to you. You may love how I make you feel but I don’t think it’s real love unless you’ve known the SP for a long time and have developed genuine strong feelings