Perhaps the manager was racist, it’s irrelevant if they were asked to leave because they were not customers and they refused. It’s actions, not intent or real/imaginary bias that matters.
1) They should have told the men that they have the choice to stay by buying something or leave. They were not causing a ruckus nor were they doing what many other non-customers were doing.Please enlighten us.
Please tell me how you would have handled it...properly?
After the police asked the two to leave, three times, they should have just let it go and left themselves? Should they have told the manager to just let them sit there? Should they not have responded to the call at all?
They were asked to purchase or leave, and were they causing a ruckus? I don't think we know.1) They should have told the men that they have the choice to stay by buying something or leave. They were not causing a ruckus nor were they doing what many other non-customers were doing.
2) If the men decide not to buy anything, usher them out the door and call it a day. The cops should not have arrested the men nor should they have detained the men for 8 hours.
Have you ever been to starbucks downtown?Yes, after they make a purchase. And who, other than teens who have no money, go into a place of business and just sit their ass down? Would you? Right.
Do they ask them to leave?Have you ever been to starbucks downtown?
Not sure which Starbucks you go to. At the ones I frequent all the loiterers have a drink or more. Also through the years I have been in many establishments and witnessed white guys being denied use of a bathroom if they did not make a purchase. Or asked to leave if loitering.This misses the point. Countless white customers loiter at Starbucks every day and they don't get arrested. The issue is that these men were treated differently than white men would have been in the same situation.We call that racism and its wrong...regardless of what might have been.
If it went down as you said it did, I agree.They were asked to purchase or leave, and were they causing a ruckus? I don't think we know.
If you attempted to escort them out, you wouldn't be able to touch them as they would claim its assault. If the cops asked them multiple times and they didn't leave, do you think they would leave for the manager?
In my opinion, they refused to purchase, therefore they were in the wrong. Even if it was a factor, racism would be impossible to prove.
Starbucks closing and doing 'training' is a cheap form of damage control.
ExactlyWhat I don't get is why these guys- who were there to discuss real estate- did not buy a $2 beverage after they were told restrooms were for customers only. Problem solved, no debate, no cops. Free refills if you are a gold card member.
Yep.All establishments have a policy on loitering. Buy a fuckin' drink and sit your ass down. The place isn't there for you to "hang out". People of all colour/backgrounds have been asked to leave establishments for loitering.
Looks like it is racially motivated.. In this case the manager might have thought these two guys are just hanging out and waiting for more guys to join them.Look at the video the two guys are talking to the cops without freaking out, they would not have caused any disturbance for the manager to call the police unless that idiot felt threatened every time someone raised their voiceIn the end, whether this actually was racially motivated is unknown - we'll never know the exact thoughts of the manager. BUT, the optics scream racism and that's what the two guys and any journalist will claim. Manager is white, two guys are black. Were they causing any disturbance? No. Does the manager frequently ask other non-buyers to leave?
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Uh, did I miss something in the video or the article?The Manager at Starbucks withheld a basic courtesy that is extended to other customers all the time. He did it because the customer was black. Again, how much more racist does it have to be for the red necks to admit it was wrong?
Then the cops were racist too. Before the men were arrested, they did agree to leave...but the cops arrested them instead. That was wrong...OBVIOUSLY!