G&M - McKenna pleads for pipeline "truce" as climate plan collapses
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So said Wynne. Nice faux pas on her part.
But she clearly stated that not implementing a carbon tax woukd cost 30-40 thousand govt jobs. That was a direct message to govt employees where to vote.
Someone trying to pay off the sins of one Trudeau. Now we have another one doing it ahead of time.
You brutal communication skills have once again left the reader wondering what exactly do you mean
Do you mean
a) Investment in green energy is increasing every year on an absolute basis? That would be no surprise
or do you mean
b) green energy investment now exceeds current energy investments ?
If this is what you mean I will tell you to prove it with some credible references
Global investment in oil & gas Exploration & Development is a very big number
A truly staggering amount
Global oil consumption is 100 MM barrels a day & growing
At best green energy substitution may slow the growth
Your statement once again displays your lack of understanding about the subject you have an opinion on
There is no way in hell fossil fuel consumption will be displaced in a couple of decades.
More propaganda from FrankFooter
Why do insist on misleading people?
She had implemented the cap and trade on businesses through auctions that were a sell-out. But again no proof that she said "not implementing carbon tax would cost 30-40 thousand government jobs". Obviously false:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/ont...etween-cap-and-trade-and-carbon-tax-1.3738490
The alternative is to move it by rail
I know that produces even more emissions.
The depth of your thinking is extremely shallow
So in addition to taxing the economy, she was going to hire 30-40 thousand more govt employees in order to spend the revenue?
or
Was she implying the lost tax revenue would mean 30-40 thousand govt employees layoffs?
i.e she has already spent that revenue by expanding the size of government ?
No. Trudeau was responsible for considerable deficit spending. We were told the gst was to pay it off. All they did was to use it to increase spending.
She said it in criticism of Ford when he announced he would scrap it.
Signal to the civil servant base.
You are hilarious. Keep on blaming Trudeau for everything. We know that Mulroney had to implement it to ring in more revenue, although it was the most hated tax at that time and it destroyed the Conservative party as we knew it then. All they then managed to do was to retain win just two seats when Kim Campbell was the leader.
Wonder how Mulroney and Campbell could not get the Butler message out that they were paying the price for the deficit caused by the Trudeau Government??
Mulroney paid for the sins of Trudeau. It's that simple. He did the right thing.
No way Trudeau Jr. Does. Or Wynne.
It will be spend on salaries and other payoffs for votes. And the voters know it.
Paul Martin made good use of the GST revenues to pay down the debt , GST revenues far exceeded the old manufactures tax it replaced.
No way Paul Martin could have accomplished what he did without the GST which Micheal Wilson implemented in 1991
1 1/2 years later Jean Crietian became PM. He ran on the promise to abolish the GST but never did.
Yet he was the major benefactor of the GST
At one point $0,25 of every dollar of federal government revenue was going to interest payments on debt borrowed by Trudeau Senior.
Mulroney added to the pile, however Interest rates were also significantly higher than now, and as I have stated before when you inherit a bloated bureaucracy, it is tough to cut cost quickly.
Doug Ford will have the same problem, as will whoever replaces Justin, only they will face the headwind of increasing interest rates vs. the declines Paul Martin enjoyed & there will not be a new incremental cash machine like the GST
Trudeau is fondly remembered for bringing the percentage of Canadians living in poverty down from around 23% to 13%. Something of an achievement. Remember that in the seventies there was one of the biggest global recessions, that hit many Western nations very hard indeed. He did a great job of steering them out of i,t and the deficit is no different from what Harper plunged Canada into during the recession when he did not know that Canada was in a recession. Although the deficit dollar wise was much bigger under Harper, as a ratio of the GDP it was similar. The difference is that Canada's growth under Trudeau was one of the highest among the Western nations. Under Harper, not really!!
Again this nonsense about Trudeau "spending on salaries and other payoffs for votes" is illegal. Why do you and the right wingers on this board not go and arrest them if it is "true"??
too funny
Morons like you block pipelines because of environmental concerns only to force the oil to be shipped by rail.
Rail definitely produces more emissions than pipelines and definitely has a higher probability of producing a spill
In addition, it ensures western oil is sold at $35 / bbl. while eastern Canada pays $65 for oil imported from the middle east or the gulf.
And your response is to spew more garbage rhetoric ?
This is another example in a very very long & growing list where you have an uncompromising ideology driven opinion on issues you do not understand
The reason for that is conservatives understand the risks associated with debt, the perils of compounding interest and understand debt has to be managed in a responsible way.
Socialists start off with the irresponsible assumption that debt can be repaid with someone else's money or just ignore it until they run out of other peoples money.
Again I provide facts which can be verified.
You provide union hall rhetoric, whining, bitching and complaining.
This is another example in a very very long & growing list where you have an uncompromising ideology driven opinion on issues you do not understand
Dinosaurs like you are stuck in old economic models and don't understand that the world is moving to keeping as much fossil fuels in the ground for the good of the planet. For a 'businessman' you don't understand that even the insurance industry recognizes that changing our fuel sources and fighting climate change is way cheaper then living with extreme weather damages caused by climate change.
Your ideas are old and do not make business sense.
