Asking questions = time waster?

[Theobservantone]

For the OP I believe some of the ladies ads or websites he has come across probably aren't marketing to his type of expectations or demeanour. Some guys really don't get that we are not a car wash that every single person who contacts us is entitled to the same service for a set price. There are all kinds of providers who offer all kinds of services and market in all kinds of ways.

If you truly expect to be paying for services only and demand said services - then simply book providers who advertise such services and consistently have the same services mentioned in reviews.

Some ad boards after C36 refused to let escorts advertise if they had any sexual menus on their website. It's not AS strictly enforced maybe now, but still some of us adhere to it and don't mention every single menu item for that reason. Some of us also don't mention a menu because we hate being asked "hey babe what's the menu" and talked to in such terms. I really don't want to see any client who thinks he's seeing me for my services only and not to spend time with me. Some of you are kidding yourselves if you think no guy is wanting to see us just to talk, or get a massage, or just cuddle us, or take us to dinner or a museum. Some of us really are companions and are not just sex dolls so when we say we are being paid for time and companionship only we mean it. Some of my clients really do just book social time, some want some attention/affection but don't want to cheat or are simply terrified of STDs so they don't engage in any oral or full service.

I am not a YMMV provider personally, despite some gents having ok or pretty bad hygiene I still treat them with respect and attempt to be consistent with everyone because that's just me. I don't like to chastise a client and threaten or throw them out, and I do a pretty good job of only taking on bookings where I think the client and I will get on well. Some people naturally just have an aroma, some don't know how to clean in their foreskin. Some of the hobbyists who are big time reviewers you would laugh if you found out how bad their hygiene is. Some of the guys on here swear up and down they are always fresh and don't get whey they don't get a BBBJ. Many think they are fresh and simply are not - I'm sure the same goes for some SPs. The perception and the reality is quite different.

Personally I'm not interested in booking clients who are menu oriented and absolutely insist that I painstakingly list every single thing I do and will not do - this is a buzz kill and doesn't make me want to see them. If someone sends me a polite inquiry WITH screening info and asks I just wanted to know is bbbj something you offer? Then yes I will be inclined to politely respond yes. The approach really matters, and if you have multiple menu item demands, high expectations or any entitlement you will find some of the SPs you contact simply aren't interested. For example one terb guy contacted me and said after several emails he wanted to be sure I was "true gfe" I asked what that meant and he said "True GFE" is when you swallow, my gf has always done that and I only book escorts who swallow or that's not true gfe. I laughed and said no and he wasn't interested. No loss for me.

Everyone has things they're looking for in their session with an SP, and you will likely find someone who offers what you want. But there's no sense in trying to shit all over people who say they offer companionship only or don't have a menu. They're not for you and don't want your particular business and design their website/ad in that way. Move on. You're a time waster when you knowingly contact a lady to push and pry for info with no real intention of booking, or annoy her to the point she doesn't want to see you anymore with many or rude questions.

To the op Cristy and Sweetiepie are 2 completely different people. Cristy is a Caerf member and on twitter and doesn't talk here as far as I know.

I really wish I hadn't used BBBJ as an example, it seems the focus on menu/YMMV cannot be shaken. What if I want to know if you're open to dancing with me to set the mood....no dancing, no booking as I would like to dance. Am I still a disgusting menu-seeking women-objectifying misogynist that can't see women as people? You know, despite the fact I was raised solely by women and have a daughter of my own....

Yeah, I agree, some guys do book for non-sexual reasons, but if that were the vast majority of cases then I doubt LE would be a concern, and I highly, highly doubt those who only want companionship are anywhere near the majority of bookings, could be wrong of course but I doubt it. However, even for those guys who don't partake in the sexual services, if they paid the price, they could have, so it was still on offer and technically part of the agreement, so it was paid for, and not just your time....but that doesn't preclude your right to refuse any services that were on offer prior to meeting. YMMV as always.

This is just in general, not directed at your Charlotte, but it seems I've been pegged as someone who only wants a menu.....funny as I've not partaken in anything extra except for SW when seeing girls who have quite extensive menus. I didn't even do greek when it was "on the house"......but yeah, just after a menu. I also care about your intellectual capacity and conversational skills because it's all about the menu. I book 1.5hours and am sexual for maybe 45mins-1hr, but yeah, just about the menu, not the connection. When asked what I want/like, I just shrug and say whatever you'd like to do, but just a menu seeker. I wonder....if it's really just about services or a menu, then shouldn't every girl who performs the service I want be an automatic regular? I've not repeated once, so I guess other things do matter, like the genuine connection we have. I'm about to respond to Amber but I'll still throw this in here, her sexual skills are/were top notch, but age gap made the connection meh, not horrible just not good. Would I have eventually repeated? Yeah, sure (obviously not anymore). But would she have ever been a regular? No. On the contrary, another lady whose sexual skills weren't as good as Amber's (but still great), but the connection was there, I plan to repeat if I'm not ostracized because of this thread lolol. I could continue but at this point it seems quite futile.

Thanks for your response Charlotte, seriously. I wonder if perhaps you will respond with the dancing example in mind, if that changes anything for you. If not, so be it, I'll take your answer as don't ask just wait and see - simply because I don't trust reviews to be gospel and am taking a huge risk by asking anything, about anything, from anyone.

For what it's worth, the questions I want to ask are simply how many shots in the time, and do you like to dance (honestly). I also like to tell the lady to take the lead, I like confident assertive women at first and once we're comfortable with each other I'm willing to become more dominant, but I want her to lead and initiate the activities. If I remember correctly, when booking with Candy Cane and discussing FF DT and Greek, I said, "these are some things I would like to do but when, how, or if they happen is upto you", verbatim......what a monster, I'm such a demon....

 

[Theobservantone]

Yes as a client who shows up and pays and does not attack an escort I gave you a referance. I said something was off about you because you asked me via pm my rates for greek. I responded and you still went on to question it ( another self promoted pycholgist on here).
jumps on my review to say why not fuck her ass when the admision is free. You were going off on your thread about intelligence on here. I mearly said to you that the most intelligent people in the world admit they know nothing ( that sent you for a loop) at the same time explaining you didnt need to question me on my thread after we discussed I changed my rates for greek. You were one of the first people I saw in over a year. I guess we did greek. I was getting back into my profession and yes my mistake for not setting my rates right away. It is a fact that you try to constantly stir the pot on here . You say other people act like they are in highschool when you whine on here and make condensending remarks. You say in p.m. you dont want to see me again. It made me think ya this guys off. But hey as a safe ordinary client you got a recomandation. I would never send an sp to an abusive fellow so shut the fuck up already.

You told me one thing, everyone on the board said another, so I asked the board to verify. I'm not allowed to ask the board questions now without "seeming off" when I've received conflicting sets of information?? Really? lmfao. Self promoted psychologist? Damn, you do assume a lot of shit don't you. I have an undergrad in psych, a far cry from being a psychologist and I've never claimed to be one, please link me to where I made that claim, I would love to see it lolol.

I think your memory is a bit foggy. We never did greek, you told me at the end of the session you offer it but there was no discussion of price. I already knew you offered it but it was my first time ever with an SP so I just wanted to have the experience and had no clue what to expect, so I didn't opt for greek. The PM I sent you was asking a rate for 1.5hrs and Greek, you quoted 550, but didn't indicate price of greek solely, so I still didn't know if greek was an upcharge. I saw the post after that with the claim the greek was included, I wondered and asked. The PM you sent included the one sentence you referenced, and a bunch others accusing me of playing games with you and giving me shit for not asking you directly. I responded that I didn't understand the reason for your hostility but if that's how you want to play it fine, I won't book with you again. You apologized, clarified, and then we were fine and I was planning to book you again. Then you were off the GOE site and first I see you back you're on twitter attacking my character. I asked that question about you once, in that thread, and never again, until I saw the shit you wrote on twitter, and I'm stirring the pot? I fail to see how. I accepted what you said and left it at that. I make condescending remarks in response to attacks on my character or in response to condescending remarks made to me, sure. I don't apologize for that and never will.

Shut the fuck up already.....yeah, sounds about right coming from you based on the PM I got after asking the question. I will gladly end all communication with you here, have a great life and safe career and I actually mean every bit of that.

 

[Theobservantone]

These twitter SPs are your everyday sherlock holmes. lol

I'm telling you.....they should daylight as FBI or RCMP agents.

 

[foxxxy lady]

I really wish I hadn't used BBBJ as an example, it seems the focus on menu/YMMV cannot be shaken. What if I want to know if you're open to dancing with me to set the mood....no dancing, no booking as I would like to dance. Am I still a disgusting menu-seeking women-objectifying misogynist that can't see women as people? You know, despite the fact I was raised solely by women and have a daughter of my own....

Yeah, I agree, some guys do book for non-sexual reasons, but if that were the vast majority of cases then I doubt LE would be a concern, and I highly, highly doubt those who only want companionship are anywhere near the majority of bookings, could be wrong of course but I doubt it. However, even for those guys who don't partake in the sexual services, if they paid the price, they could have, so it was still on offer and technically part of the agreement, so it was paid for, and not just your time....but that doesn't preclude your right to refuse any services that were on offer prior to meeting. YMMV as always.

This is just in general, not directed at your Charlotte, but it seems I've been pegged as someone who only wants a menu.....funny as I've not partaken in anything extra except for SW when seeing girls who have quite extensive menus. I didn't even do greek when it was "on the house"......but yeah, just after a menu. I also care about your intellectual capacity and conversational skills because it's all about the menu. I book 1.5hours and am sexual for maybe 45mins-1hr, but yeah, just about the menu, not the connection. When asked what I want/like, I just shrug and say whatever you'd like to do, but just a menu seeker. I wonder....if it's really just about services or a menu, then shouldn't every girl who performs the service I want be an automatic regular? I've not repeated once, so I guess other things do matter, like the genuine connection we have. I'm about to respond to Amber but I'll still throw this in here, her sexual skills are/were top notch, but age gap made the connection meh, not horrible just not good. Would I have eventually repeated? Yeah, sure (obviously not anymore). But would she have ever been a regular? No. On the contrary, another lady whose sexual skills weren't as good as Amber's (but still great), but the connection was there, I plan to repeat if I'm not ostracized because of this thread lolol. I could continue but at this point it seems quite futile.

Thanks for your response Charlotte, seriously. I wonder if perhaps you will respond with the dancing example in mind, if that changes anything for you. If not, so be it, I'll take your answer as don't ask just wait and see - simply because I don't trust reviews to be gospel and am taking a huge risk by asking anything, about anything, from anyone.

For what it's worth, the questions I want to ask are simply how many shots in the time, and do you like to dance (honestly). I also like to tell the lady to take the lead, I like confident assertive women at first and once we're comfortable with each other I'm willing to become more dominant, but I want her to lead and initiate the activities. If I remember correctly, when booking with Candy Cane and discussing FF DT and Greek, I said, "these are some things I would like to do but when, how, or if they happen is upto you", verbatim......what a monster, I'm such a demon....

Then if my so called age gap was an issue why on earth did you pm me about seeing me again. You went on about how pretty I was whilst trying to hammer your dick down my throat. How the hell are we to gave this intellegent coversation you want so much while my mouth is full of your dick. We didnt connect because of age but because I failed to deep throst your cock Btw you didnt look much younger then me. I mearly asked you why you would pm me about my greek rates abd still run of to my review with your comment. My new rstes will be set on my website so this bs an can be avoided

 

[Theobservantone]

Interesting. If you're being hated on for this, I can only imagine the stuff being said about me on Twitter based on some of my posts. Hate to say I told you so (no I don't lol) but I've always said you can ask almost any question but be prepared for the answer/reaction.

You know, I actually thought about that. A guy comes on here wanting to know how he can ask questions directly of the lady and not rely on second hand information, and that's SW Twitter worthy? I was both flattered and shocked when I saw my handle while scrolling on Twitter. I've read some pretty degrading shit on here but never saw it on Twitter. That's why I assumed it was Sweetiepieexo (forgot to comment on this Charlotte but thanks for clarifying that and apologies for mentioning my assumption sweetipie if you're still reading this). I didn't think my post to be bad or degrading, my response to Sweetiepie was perhaps harsh but warranted imo, so I'm genuinely surprised I made it on twitter. Not that the SP who tweeted it is super popular or anything, but still. I didn't think the escort world would be this sensitive tbh. I have a few theories but I've done enough damage so I'll keep those to myself lol....don't want to be labeled a false psychologist again (now THAT'S stirring the pot!)

 

[Theobservantone]

Then if my so cslked age gap was an issue why on earth did you pm me about seeing me again. You went on about how pretty I was whilst trying to hammer your dick down my throat. How the hell are we to gave this intellegent coversation you want so much while my mouth is fulk of your dick. We didnt connect because of age but because I failed to deep throst your cock Btw you didnt look much younger then me.

I'm 29, you're 44 based on your indy ad. I didn't say it was an issue, I said it was meh. I would book again because you give great head, your ass tasted sweet, and your pussy is tight. I wouldn't see you monthly because we don't connect. I'm an atheist, you went on about the buddhist religion. Nuff said. Don't flatter me, I don't last super long until I'm comfortable with the lady. First shot took 10mins, 2nd one maybe 15. We talked for at least 10-15mins at the end. Your tits were gorgeous when you were laying on your back with your head off the bed and my dick in your mouth, absolutely. Still gives me a hard on thinking about it, but then there's this attitude of yours that kills it.

 

[foxxxy lady]

I'm 29, you're 44 based on your indy ad. I didn't say it was an issue, I said it wasn't amazing. I would book again because you give great head, your ass tasted sweet, and your pussy is tight. I wouldn't see you monthly because we don't connect. I'm an atheist, you went on about the buddhist religion. Nuff said. Don't flatter me, I don't last super long until I'm comfortable with the lady. First shot took 10mins, 2nd one maybe 15. We talked for at least 10-15mins at the end. Your tits were gorgeous when you were laying on your back with your head off the bed and my dick in your mouth, absolutely. Still gives me a hard on thinking about it, but then there's this attitude of yours that kills it.

I have only told one person on here to fuck off publically on this board since 2009. There is a reason for that you know you went on about my pretty face and I was asked in your pm why I let you fuck me in ass with no upsell. You asked if it was ymmv. Sorry to disappoint you. Put me down all you want because I talked about a meditation Budda is not a religion. I discovered. Lesson learned dont talk about nothing in a session with a guy who thinks he knows eveything. My attitude is attitude problem to you because I speak the truth. I dont need yo flatter you you like to flatter yourself. I woukd still say you are a safe client. Just a Bitch on here .

 

[sweetiepieexo]

Yes as a client who shows up and pays and does not attack an escort I gave you a referance. I said something was off about you because you asked me via pm my rates for greek. I responded and you still went on to question it ( another self promoted pycholgist on here).
jumps on my review to say why not fuck her ass when the admision is free. You were going off on your thread about intelligence on here. I mearly said to you that the most intelligent people in the world admit they know nothing ( that sent you for a loop) at the same time explaining you didnt need to question me on my thread after we discussed I changed my rates for greek. You were one of the first people I saw in over a year. I guess we did greek. I was getting back into my profession and yes my mistake for not setting my rates right away. It is a fact that you try to constantly stir the pot on here . You say other people act like they are in highschool when you whine on here and make condensending remarks. You say in p.m. you dont want to see me again. Then in the next pm you do. It made me think ya this guys off. But hey as a safe ordinary client you got a recomandation. I would never send an sp to an abusive fellow

lol foxy you weren't the only one who called him out and got attacked . I as well am a victim of this mans condescending remarks. He should be thanking you for giving him a recommendation... I hope hes not as rude in person as he is on here. Take it as a blessing hes not seeing you again.. I knew something was off about him and his thread...

 

[Samranchoi]

Too many guys come on here trying to stir the pot. Why? Because they have nothing better to do. Losers in life ( and you are) need to show some type of superiority to others. Sadly, when they speak, it just confirms what everyone in their private and on-line lives already know. I don't profess to be any different than these losers ^^^^ (i.e. Those guys before the ladies above) but I also don't need to self inflate my ego like they do. It really is getting to be a place where you don't want to be anymore.

 

[Theobservantone]

I was writing a longer post about Amber's lying about me (we never did greek), and Sweetipie's overwhelmingly strong sense of victimhood, but I realized it's pointless. I'm throwing in the towel and leaving my own thread, Ladies, you've won - have great lives and safe careers.

Samranchoi - wear that armour my friend, wear that armour lol.

 

[Samranchoi]

Samranchoi - wear that armour my friend, wear that armour lol.

Don't insult me by referring to me as your friend, lol. As CE alluded to before, from your first post on, made no sense to me and reading your follow up posts, well, to put it bluntly, I can see the huge "L" firmly stamped on your forehead for all to see. The scary thought, you have found a new ally, lol. God help us, lol. Or in my case, Buddha.

 

[sweetiepieexo]

Don't insult me by referring to me as your friend, lol. As CE alluded to before, from your first post on, made no sense to me and reading your follow up posts, well, to put it bluntly, I can see the huge "L" firmly stamped on your forehead for all to see. The scary thought, you have found a new ally, lol. God help us, lol. Or in my case, Buddha.

lol you tell him samranchoi ! The way he speaks to us sps alone is disgusting and revolting ; as well as his attitude towards other members on this board is equally as disturbing.. good on you for letting him know whats up lol

Theobservantone





Theobservantone - constant victimization ??? you come on here being condescending , rude, ignorant, arrogant & say your question has nothing to do with the YMMV/HYGIENE concept but everyone on this board CLEARLY understands that IT ABSOLUTELY DOES ! LMAO . like can you get a clue?
Also you come on here being rude to sps - you criticized an sp on her age but said her pussy is tight and she gives good head but you say you don't connect... so you are basically admitting to being a womanizer lmao.. what respectable lady such as myself and others on this thread would even consider seeing you? NONE ! because your attitude is absolutely horrible towards sex workers and I'm sure every other lady on this board will agree with me when I say you are just digging a bigger hole for yourself by talking crap to us women. You do realize we are human right ; women with feelings and opinions and normal lives outside of this???

We don't have to kiss your ass just because you are paying us. Sorry doesn't work that way. In case you weren't aware.