Erdogan slams Israel as ‘terrorist state’ that ‘kills children’

Phil C. McNasty

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I see, so your model of peace talks is capitulation and surrender, then talks.
And until then apartheid.

That would make you possibly worse then Hamas
I don't care
 

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I don't care
Until I call you an evil racist for supporting apartheid and being perhaps more evil then Hamas.
Then you went and tried to call in the mods, who apparently didn't find anything wrong with me calling you evil for supporting apartheid.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Until I call you an evil racist for supporting apartheid and being perhaps more evil then Hamas.
Then you went and tried to call in the mods, who apparently didn't find anything wrong with me calling you evil for supporting apartheid
I think you're an anti-semite masquerading as some champion of Palestinian rights, which everyone on this forum knows is total bullshit
 

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I think you're an anti-semite masquerading as some champion of Palestinian rights, which everyone on this forum knows is total bullshit
Of coarse the goal has nothing to do with Palestinian rights,... but simply the destruction of Israel.

And has admitted to having "friends" in states that dream of the destruction of Israel.
 

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I think you're an anti-semite masquerading as some champion of Palestinian rights, which everyone on this forum knows is total bullshit
Tell that to IJV.
Tell that to the UN, that says Israel is apartheid.
Tell that to the Israeli opposition party that says Israel is apartheid.

None of those groups, and nobody I know, is calling for the destruction of Israel.
Just peace.

End apartheid, bring on equal rights.
And peace for all of Israel/Palestine.
 

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Are you trying to claim that Palestinians don't have a right to self defence...
Self defense means stopping people who are actively trying to harm you. It does not include attacking random people because of their religion and it doesn't even include attacking police.
 

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I did use exactly this question to you, as you justify the killing of Palestinians based on your claims that they might be terrorists.
It was used in order to highlight your own hypocrisy, for your refusal to apply the same standard to all races.
Except I have never justified attacking all Palestinians because some Palestinians are terrorists. I only support stopping or arresting the actual terrorists. The problem is your definition of what constitutes terrorism is different for Jews and Arabs. You have described settlers throwing stones at Palestinian civilians as terrorism (and I agree with you) but when Palestinians throw stones at Jewish civilians you claim it is "self defence".
 

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If you come home and find someone robbing your house, do they have a right to self defence against your attack?
Under Canadian law, you have absolutely zero right of self defence against a burglar for simply being in your house just like the Palestinians have absolutely zero right to attack Jews for being in the West Bank. The only exception would be if you are "under a reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm from the person assaulted".
 

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You've got two sides claiming the same land, true.
But one side also has numerous UN resolutions backing that claim,...
Actually the UN says that the status of the land can only be settled by negotiations in for two states.

More importantly, UN resolutions say that Jordan and Egypt had a right to that land but those resolutions were made irrelevant when they signed peace agreements with Israel.
 

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I see, so your model of peace talks is capitulation and surrender, then talks.
And until then apartheid.

That would make you possibly worse then Hamas.
Yes, any peace deal means that non-state militias like Hamas must be disarmed before the PA can implement any peace deal.

Only you would support a terrorists group being armed.
 

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Except I have never justified attacking all Palestinians because some Palestinians are terrorists. .
Bullshit.
You justified the attacks on Gaza because you say Hamas are terrorists, but that was an attack on all Palestinians in Gaza.
You justify the blockade, because of 'terrorists'.
You justify the shooting of protesters because of 'terrorists'.
 

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Bullshit.
You justified the attacks on Gaza because you say Hamas are terrorists, but that was an attack on all Palestinians in Gaza.
You justify the blockade, because of 'terrorists'.
You justify the shooting of protesters because of 'terrorists'.
Desperate crap from you as usual especially since you openly back attacks on Jews in the west bank.

Another incident you will ignore is a guy mad a wrong turn, ended up in a Palestinian suburb got attacked, had his car torched, and had to be rescued by Palestinian police. The Palestinians then responded with a violent riot of over 100 People when the guy was transferred over to Israeli forces.

But yes, Israel is obliged to try and stop Hamas terrorism. The only civilian casualties is because Hamas insists on terror attacks while hiding behind civilians.
 

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Desperate crap from you as usual especially since you openly back attacks on Jews in the west bank.
The reports say that settlers are way more violent the Palestinians in the West Bank.
You are supporting the cause of the violence, the illegal occupation.
 

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The reports say that settlers are way more violent the Palestinians in the West Bank.
You are supporting the cause of the violence, the illegal occupation.
Keep making things up. There are hundreds of attacks by Palestinians on Jewish civilians every month but you refuse to listen because they are reported on bynisareli sources.
 

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Blah blah blah. Of course you choose to ignore that the vast majority of Palestinian dead in the past couple years have been engaged in attacks and the vast majority of murdered Jews were killed doing things like driving their car or having a family dinner.

Hamas continues to commit and promote terror attacks on random civilians but you only complain that Israel dares to stop Palestinian attackers.


And I have never shied away from condemning settler terrorism while you continue to justify Palestinian violence.
 

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Blah blah blah.
I'll take it by this that you admit that the stats show you are backing the majority cause of the violence.
Thanks.

There are more and more cases like this disgusting act going on.
BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) -- Israeli settlers reportedly assaulted Palestinians and journalists during a sit-in protest in solidarity with child prisoners in the southern occupied West Bank city of Hebron, according to official Palestinian Authority (PA)-owned Wafa news agency.

Wafa reported that under the protection of Israeli forces, dozens of Israeli settlers from nearby settlement physically and verbally assaulted residents, journalists and children during the sit-in.

Between 500,000 and 600,000 Israelis live in Jewish-only settlements across occupied East Jerusalem and the West Bank in violation of international law.

The Palestinian government has no jurisdiction over Israelis in the West Bank, and acts carried out by Israeli settlers often occur in the presence of Israeli military forces who rarely act to protect Palestinian residents.

The majority of settler attacks committed against Palestinians are met with impunity, with Israelis rarely facing consequences for such thefts.
Only 1.9 percent of complaints submitted by Palestinians against Israeli settler attacks or theft result in a conviction.


Yesh Din, along with Israeli rights group B’Tselem, have previously condemned Israeli authorities for failing to protect Palestinians from settlers violence or investigate attacks.
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779814

This was an act of terrorism committed by settlers and aided by the IDF.
That makes it an act of state terrorism.

Disgusting.
 
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