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Erdogan slams Israel as ‘terrorist state’ that ‘kills children’

basketcase

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So how do Palestinians tell which settlers aren't terrorists and which IDF aren't terrorists?
Wow. You are pathetic. That is just another of your disgusting attempts to claim all Jews are valid targets.


I was thinking of actually discussing what laws say about things like that but you are too bust cheering for Palestinian violence.
 

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Wow. You are pathetic. That is just another of your disgusting attempts to claim all Jews are valid targets.


I was thinking of actually discussing what laws say about things like that but you are too bust cheering for Palestinian violence.
I didn't think you could answer that question.
But what we've identified here is that there are acts of terrorism committed by Hamas, settlers and the IDF.

Which is why its time to bring in the ICC, since Israel's record is abysmal, to apply the law to both sides.
Bring in the ICC, charge both sides for war crimes and end apartheid and the occupation.

Why will you not support a call for equal rights?
 

basketcase

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I didn't think you could answer that question.
The answer is an easy one. If they are not engaged in violence then they are civilians. If they are following the rules of war, they are soldiers or police.


And I'm still waiting for you to get over your hero worship of Hamas. You have repeatedly pretended they had given up on terrorism and lied that they are for peace. In reality they are still terrorists, they still reject the concept of peace with Israel, and they also detest your claimed goal of equality.
 

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The answer is an easy one. If they are not engaged in violence then they are civilians. If they are following the rules of war, they are soldiers or police.
Are you stating that terrorists are only terrorists when actively engaged in terrorism?
So those settlers are only terrorists when they are actually attacking Palestinian villages and olive groves?

If that's the case, then you need to apply those standards to all Palestinians as well.
Correct?

Otherwise you'd be acting like a racist.
 

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Are you stating that terrorists are only terrorists when actively engaged in terrorism?
So those settlers are only terrorists when they are actually attacking Palestinian villages and olive groves?...
To be 100% clear, those individuals who are involved in violence should be arrested (like the Hamas leadership who endorsed the murder of that rabbi). Self defence should only apply at the time that the victim is in real danger of bodily harm. You can't use "self defence" in the way you claim and attack civilians simply base don their religion because some other person with that religion commits a crime.

Would you like your standard applied to Palestinians? Do you Israel is justified in attacking any Palestinians because some of them are terrorists?
 

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To be 100% clear, those individuals who are involved in violence should be arrested (like the Hamas leadership who endorsed the murder of that rabbi). Self defence should only apply at the time that the victim is in real danger of bodily harm. You can't use "self defence" in the way you claim and attack civilians simply base don their religion because some other person with that religion commits a crime.

Would you like your standard applied to Palestinians? Do you Israel is justified in attacking any Palestinians because some of them are terrorists?
You didn't answer the questions.

Are you stating that terrorists are only terrorists when actively engaged in terrorism?
So those settlers are only terrorists when they are actually attacking Palestinian villages and olive groves?...
 

basketcase

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You didn't answer the questions.

Are you stating that terrorists are only terrorists when actively engaged in terrorism?
So those settlers are only terrorists when they are actually attacking Palestinian villages and olive groves?...
You obviously have zero literacy skills if you can't understand my answer.

Even worse, you are making an argument that all Israelis are valid targets for terrorism while claiming Palestinians have the right to commit acts of violence and terrorism without repercussion.
 

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You obviously have zero literacy skills if you can't understand my answer.

Even worse, you are making an argument that all Israelis are valid targets for terrorism while claiming Palestinians have the right to commit acts of violence and terrorism without repercussion.
Read your answer and tell me where you answered questions about terrorism, and not 'those who are violent'.

Are you stating that terrorists are only terrorists when actively engaged in terrorism?
So those settlers are only terrorists when they are actually attacking Palestinian villages and olive groves?
 

basketcase

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Read your answer and tell me where you answered questions about terrorism, and not 'those who are violent'....
People in the act of terrorism deserve to be stopped, arrested, or killed if there is no other option. People believed to be terrorists not in the act should be arrested where possible.

There are no circumstances that support your assertion that Palestinians allowed to kill random civilians because some settlers may be violent.
 

Frankfooter

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People in the act of terrorism deserve to be stopped, arrested, or killed if there is no other option. People believed to be terrorists not in the act should be arrested where possible.

There are no circumstances that support my assertion that Palestinians should be killed on suspicions of being terrorists, or to kill random Palestinians because some Palestinians may be violent.
I fixed your post, to make a morally defensible position.
Would you agree with that statement?
 

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I fixed your post, to make a morally defensible position.
Would you agree with that statement?
Your pathetic attempts at faking quotes aside, you are the one suggesting a terrorist act makes all people of the same ethnicity valid targets.
 

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Your pathetic attempts at faking quotes aside, you are the one suggesting a terrorist act makes all people of the same ethnicity valid targets.
Faking quotes? Its clearly stated that I edited your post for effect, get a life.

I just want to be clear about this statement you made.
According to you, you can't assume people are terrorists just because they are of a race.
Correct?

And also, suspicions of being a terrorist are not justifications to kill anyone, correct?
 

basketcase

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Faking quotes? Its clearly stated that I edited your post for effect, get a life.

I just want to be clear about this statement you made.
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Umm. if you faked my quote, it's not my quote.

But it is amusing watching you try and squirm away from your claim that some Jews being terrorists or in the army justifies Palestinian attacks on Jewish civilians in the West Bank something you obviously don't apply the other way.
 

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Umm. if you faked my quote, it's not my quote.

But it is amusing watching you try and squirm away from your claim that some Jews being terrorists or in the army justifies Palestinian attacks on Jewish civilians in the West Bank something you obviously don't apply the other way.
What it makes clear is that you've been defending attacks on Palestinians based on your claims that they are 'terrorists', which means you are applying a standard based on race with different applications of the law.

You are backing apartheid.
 

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What it makes clear is that you've been defending attacks on Palestinians based on your claims that they are 'terrorists', which means you are applying a standard based on race with different applications of the law.

You are backing apartheid.
Yes, I defend Israel DEFENDING itself from Palestinians who are committing a terror attack and against rioters attacking the legal authorities with rocks and firebombs.

You are the one trying to claim that a few settler terrorists justifies attacks on random Jews in the West Bank.
 

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What it makes clear is that you've been defending attacks on Palestinians based on your claims that they are 'terrorists', which means you are applying a standard based on race with different applications of the law.
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Palestinians hijacked more planes then anyone back in the day. They are the original "terrorists". Isis learned from the Palestinians.
 

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Reutations are earned,... not created

Palestinians hijacked more planes then anyone back in the day. They are the original "terrorists". Isis learned from the Palestinians.
And that reputation is reinforced today.
 

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You know what though Frankfurter, you can just start justifying everything in your life.

Oh wait, I'm locking my door because someone might be breaking in.
So yes, I'm "apartheiding" them because I dont want my house get broken into....LOL
 

Frankfooter

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Yes, I defend Israel DEFENDING itself from Palestinians .
Israel is the occupying force, where they are actively colonizing the country that should have been Palestine.
They are the attacking force, not the defending force.

Palestinians are the ones defending themselves from foreign invaders who are still trying to take their land and force them to live under apartheid rule.

Israel is in the wrong, the occupation is illegal.
Apartheid is illegal.
 

Frankfooter

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You know what though Frankfurter, you can just start justifying everything in your life.

Oh wait, I'm locking my door because someone might be breaking in.
So yes, I'm "apartheiding" them because I dont want my house get broken into....LOL
Nope.
 
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