After A Sexual Encounter You Find She's Transgender....

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Interesting that a consent from a tgirl misrepresenting herself isn't assault but consensual sex where a condom is slipped off is assault. (the later of which I do agree)....
Huge difference. No condom puts the woman at risk for disease and pregnancy.
I also believe that a trans woman is a woman under the law so there is no legal issue.
 

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Even though you asked her beforehand.

Should there be legal consequences for this?
Building on the stealthing issue, this is also something that is a little similar that the law has also not evolved on.
It seems like it would be no different than misrepresenting yourself before a sexual experience. Should there be legal consequences for embellishing your size or the quality of sex she’s going to have, if she gives you the chance? I’m not into implants; should we make a law so that women have to disclose that her breasts are fake if I ask?

It’s not fraud unless money was exchanged. Doubt you’d go to the cops if you feel she committed fraud by having sex with you for money under the false pretences of what she disclosed as her birth sex.

If you found out “after” you had sex, do you mean she’s post-op / transsexual? Not sure why anyone would make a law about this.

Otherwise, you would have somehow had sex with her without noticing she had a penis and testicals. That seems like it’d be on you. I’m also not sure why someone would make a law about this. If they did, who would come forward? Have fun with the police interview: “I thought she was only into bum sex, and foreplay is a waste of my time. She should go to jail for making me gay.”

Feels like these would be laws only for a heinously transphobic society...

What harm does this hypothetical encounter cause?

Maybe if this happened in Iran or some other fucked up theocracy, it might be a problem... but here... I’m just not sure what the problem is. You could have charged her for sodomy at one point, but you’d probably be charged as well. Protection of the ability to tell your homies with honesty that “I’ve never fucked a man” doesn’t seem like something we’d need to write into our criminal code.

I don’t see how this connects to the stealthing issue, which very obviously causes harm.

If she has HIV/AIDS, different story (as-per R v Mabior and R v DC).
 

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Happened to me once, was so grossed out I almost could't come.
Ha!

The real question was, did you stick around for seconds?

I fucked a few ladyboys in Thailand. The last one i had no idea til we got to the room. Got an incredible blow job and pounder that ass twice. Nice girl who really was born the wrong gender. Looking to get her junk chopped when she could afford it. Most discos don't allow lbs inside. She said even the Thai bouncers are fooled, til she exaggerates her movements once inside. None of them can resist doing it.
There’s NO way I would have known actual sex of a bunch of civvy ladyboys I’ve met over the years in Thailand, if it wasn’t for them disclosing in social settings or locals who knew them better than me being gossipy.

As far as I know, I’ve not gotten dirty with a transperson, but if it would happen anywhere, I feel it’d be there for me. Key term is “As far as I know.” I could have missed a decent tuck job considering the shape I’ve been in coming home from big club nights sometimes.

$40 worth of buckets or Chang’s and who knows what happens... with certainty I won’t remember...

What a country!!

Lol. Luckily you can tell with most transgenders IRL. Please no internet examples
I have a trans family member who I wouldn’t know was trans today had I not known her by a different name before she hit puberty.

A good friend is trans. If I’m visiting her, we’ll hit a trans bar every once in awhile. I’m always reminded that a big number of transpeople hide in plain site.

They may be trans, and you don’t know it because she (or he’s) perfectly passable.

You’re probably right in that you can tell with “most.” I’d probably say “many” instead.

If HRT is more widely used when kids self-identify early, I think you’ll see a shift away from being able to “tell” as easily as we can today, without examining her while she’s undressed.
 

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Even though you asked her beforehand.

Should there be legal consequences for this?
Building on the stealthing issue, this is also something that is a little similar that the law has also not evolved on.
Yes, there should be legal consequences! Is assault pure and simple. It all about consent! Would you give consent to have sex if you know the person has HIV or AIDS. I would not give consent if the person is "TRANSGENDER ".
 

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Yes, there should be legal consequences! Is assault pure and simple. It all about consent! Would you give consent to have sex if you know the person has HIV or AIDS. I would not give consent if the person is "TRANSGENDER ".
Comparing sleeping with someone who is HIV positive and someone who is transgendered is so awful wooooow.
 

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Yes, there should be legal consequences! Is assault pure and simple. It all about consent! Would you give consent to have sex if you know the person has HIV or AIDS. I would not give consent if the person is "TRANSGENDER ".
how the fuck are those even related.
STI/HIV are a diseases. some curable. some not.

being transgender is who you feel you are. If someone decided to identified as a woman , with or wirthout a penis, she is a woman. As for escort, if it a trans person that had bottom surgery ...she is a woman. woohoo you fucked a woman. Plastic surgery doesnt make someone less of a woman because genital didnt match what they felt they were.

TRANSWOMAN ARE WOMAN

kthxbai
 

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Comparing sleeping with someone who is HIV positive and someone who is transgendered is so awful wooooow.
how the fuck are those even related.
STI/HIV are a diseases. some curable. some not.

being transgender is who you feel you are. If someone decided to identified as a woman , with or wirthout a penis, she is a woman. As for escort, if it a trans person that had bottom surgery ...she is a woman. woohoo you fucked a woman. Plastic surgery doesnt make someone less of a woman because genital didnt match what they felt they were.

TRANSWOMAN ARE WOMAN

kthxbai
Right?

This thread is VERY telling...
 

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how the fuck are those even related.
STI/HIV are a diseases. some curable. some not.

being transgender is who you feel you are. If someone decided to identified as a woman , with or wirthout a penis, she is a woman. As for escort, if it a trans person that had bottom surgery ...she is a woman. woohoo you fucked a woman. Plastic surgery doesnt make someone less of a woman because genital didnt match what they felt they were.

TRANSWOMAN ARE WOMAN

kthxbai
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Right?

This thread is VERY telling...
really telling of what?

Reputable SP standing up for our co workers that have it harder than us and get call "him, it , etc" because they are trans and omg had a bottom surgery.
Its telling that you need to check yourselves and your values. Its 2018, there is men, women, trans (both way), gender fluid, non binary and more. We finally have the way to express what it mean.
Can be a bit hard to catch I agree, but dont dismay people . its not penis=male vagina=female. far away from this
 

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really telling of what?

Reputable SP standing up for our co workers that have it harder than us and get call "him, it , etc" because they are trans and omg had a bottom surgery.
Its telling that you need to check yourselves and your values. Its 2018, there is men, women, trans (both way), gender fluid, non binary and more. We finally have the way to express what it mean.
Can be a bit hard to catch I agree, but dont dismay people . its not penis=male vagina=female. far away from this
sorry biology disagree with you
 

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sorry biology disagree with you
Its chromosome im XX you are XY.
wooohoo. 23 different type of chromosomes that make who you are.

Genital? yea most of us are born with a vagina or penis.
Did you miss the memo in the pass few years, that people dont feel assign to their birth genital.
They finally can say who they feel like . a penis or vagina is not the end of it all
 

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Its chromosome im XX you are XY.
wooohoo. 23 different type of chromosomes that make who you are.

Genital? yea most of us are born with a vagina or penis.
Did you miss the memo in the pass few years, that people dont feel assign to their birth genital.
They finally can say who they feel like . a penis or vagina is not the end of it all
Biological facts and reality does care about people's feelings and memos.
 

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Yes, there should be legal consequences! Is assault pure and simple. It all about consent! Would you give consent to have sex if you know the person has HIV or AIDS. I would not give consent if the person is "TRANSGENDER ".
Sorry but you can't catch Trans-gender.
 

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Are you denying feelings are a biological trait developed over millennia of evolution?
biological sex are results of millions of years of evolution.
 

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OK, how about this: sex between two consenting 15 year old teens is legal. But what if a biological 47 year old women identify herself as 15 year old girl? Is she allowed to have sex with 15 year old boys? Or even worse: What if 15 year old girl identifies herself as 20 year old women. Does she need to tell me her "biological" age instead of her "self-identified" age before I consent to sex with her?
 
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