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Phil C. McNasty

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How is that the "point" and who are you making that point to? People have their minds made up already. Frankcastle is willing to take the risk. Even that 1%. Other are not. The point was made, people made their choice.

So who are you preaching too? Your "point" is done. It has been said. It has been heard. People have decided. Repeating said points is nothing more than trying to change the minds of people who have already made up their mind. So it is actually pointless now to continue with that part of the debate.

That is my point
Uhm yeah, thats all fine and wonderful SO LONG as the perpetrator is guilty!!
If he's not, we have a problem on our hands!!

Very simple, if this jerk did what she's accusing him of doing, I hope he burns in hell (metaphorically speaking). But you can't just out someone based on one single accusation alone. I'm very sorry, but you're gonna get called on it, and rightfully so!
 

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Uhm yeah, thats all fine and wonderful SO LONG as the perpetrator is guilty!!
If he's not, we have a problem on our hands!!

Very simple, if this jerk did what she's accusing him of doing, I hope he burns in hell (metaphorically speaking). But you can't just out someone based on one single accusation alone. I'm very sorry, but you're gonna get called on it, and rightfully so!
Why are you telling me something I don't already know?

That is my point. You have already said it.

Get it?
 

frankcastle

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We all agree that the risk is minimal. That's not the point. It's all good until you become the 1% publicly accused of something you didn't do.
This is where risk analysis comes into play. Different people have different risk tolerances.

We do this with regards to will the sp rob me, be high, is pimped or trafficked, under age, give poor service, be a sting, have a std, being outed, bait and switch etc.
 

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This is where risk analysis comes into play. Different people have different risk tolerances.

We do this with regards to will the sp rob me, be high, is pimped or trafficked, under age, give poor service, be a sting, have a std, being outed, bait and switch etc.
Your risk analogy is flawed or in your analysis you ignored the obvious. It's really about a comparison of risks when you have choices. By that analysis, the risk of being outed at Cupids is higher than other providers.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Your risk analogy is flawed or in your analysis you ignored the obvious. It's really about a comparison of risks when you have choices. By that analysis, the risk of being outed at Cupids is higher than other providers.
^^^^^ quoted for truth.

Thank you essguy. You hit the nail on the head
 

Jasmina

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It has already been shown that he IS guilty. He admitted as much in a following email. So your "but what if" arguments are already invalid.

Uhm yeah, thats all fine and wonderful SO LONG as the perpetrator is guilty!!
If he's not, we have a problem on our hands!!

Very simple, if this jerk did what she's accusing him of doing, I hope he burns in hell (metaphorically speaking). But you can't just out someone based on one single accusation alone. I'm very sorry, but you're gonna get called on it, and rightfully so!
 

apoptygma

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It has already been shown that he IS guilty. He admitted as much in a following email. So your "but what if" arguments are already invalid.
OK, so he admitted his guilt. That means that the owner of an escort agency now has the right to be judge, jury and executioner? Appointed by who?
You don't understand the problem. His guilt or innocence has NO BEARING on the fact that it is NEVER OK to out someone, john or SP, for ANY reason.
If there actually was an email of him admitting guilt, don't you think it would be easier to approach the police and let them do their jobs?
 

Jasmina

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Please read my comment in context to whom I was responding to. I was not condoning the outing I was simply stating there is no question of his guilt to those who are claiming he MIGHT be innocent.

OK, so he admitted his guilt. That means that the owner of an escort agency now has the right to be judge, jury and executioner? Appointed by who?
You don't understand the problem. His guilt or innocence has NO BEARING on the fact that it is NEVER OK to out someone, john or SP, for ANY reason.
If there actually was an email of him admitting guilt, don't you think it would be easier to approach the police and let them do their jobs?
 

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It has already been shown that he IS guilty. He admitted as much in a following email. So your "but what if" arguments are already invalid.
Post a copy of the email please.

If it exists, it's hard evidence for sexual assault and something the police should handle, not an agency.
 

frankcastle

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Your risk analogy is flawed or in your analysis you ignored the obvious. It's really about a comparison of risks when you have choices. By that analysis, the risk of being outed at Cupids is higher than other providers.
Sure. And i have said that the probabilty is higher at cupids. But that sctual probablity of being outed is very very low. In fact zero IF you act accordingly. The guy confessed via email.

But there is a lesson in all this..... get a hobby phone and dont stealth
 

apoptygma

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Sure. And i have said that the probabilty is higher at cupids. But that sctual probablity of being outed is very very low. In fact zero IF you act accordingly. The guy confessed via email.

But there is a lesson in all this..... get a hobby phone and dont stealth
Actually, unfortunately, the bigger lesson that will come out of this is: if you're going to stealth, get a hobby phone, because police won't be involved.
 

apoptygma

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In the end Jillian wins in all of this because we are all talking about her. No publicity is bad publicity.
I always thought this was true. I'm not sure I think so anymore.
I'm still stretching my wings in this industry, and Cupids is officially no-go territory for me. Full stop.
Ya, they won't go out of business... but one-by-one...
 

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Sure. And i have said that the probabilty is higher at cupids. But that sctual probablity of being outed is very very low. In fact zero IF you act accordingly. The guy confessed via email.

But there is a lesson in all this..... get a hobby phone and dont stealth
No, it's not zero. Jillian has outed others before. So in fact, your logic continues to be flawed. Don't bring "risk analysis" into the equation unless you want to do it properly. You're working backwards from a pre-determined conclusion. That's not how risk analysis works.

And hopefully, you knew not to stealth before this. And ironically, your suggestion to get a hobby phone is exactly why Cupids has made the situation worse for everybody, including providers. Now, more people (especially the bad clients) will make greater efforts to conceal their identities - so risk management for a provider just got more difficult.
 

frankcastle

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No, it's not zero. Jillian has outed others before. So in fact, your logic continues to be flawed. Don't bring "risk analysis" into the equation unless you want to do it properly. You're working backwards from a pre-determined conclusion. That's not how risk analysis works.

And hopefully, you knew not to stealth before this. And ironically, your suggestion to get a hobby phone is exactly why Cupids has made the situation worse for everybody, including providers. Now, more people (especially the bad clients) will make greater efforts to conceal their identities - so risk management for a provider just got more difficult.
Fine. How many people did she out? The odds are still tiny.

People happily do bbbjcim which probably has a higher probabilty of std than being outed by cupids yet i dont see a boycott of bbbjcim providers
 

apoptygma

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When there is a girl you're dying to see and she ends up working there, you may change your mind.
And the fact that she had this girls back=more girls are going to want to work for her I'm guessing.
Fristly, no... there is too much competition for Cupids to get anyone I am worth risking my privacy for... unless of course they can land Annie Lennox or Julie Andrews.
Secondly... sure, Jillian had THIS girls back (maybe?)... what about the girl she outed to her SO? Don't think she had HER back.
 

frankcastle

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When there is a girl you're dying to see and she ends up working there, you may change your mind.
And the fact that she had this girls back=more girls are going to want to work for her I'm guessing.
Add to that there are spas with horriblre rep on terb yet girls continue to work there and the doors remain open despite having well regarded spas nearby. And the owners ignore the suggestions and feedback.

Bad press on terb is not as dramatic as one would think.
 

apoptygma

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Fine. How many people did she out? The odds are still tiny.

People happily do bbbjcim which probably has a higher probabilty of std than being outed by cupids yet i dont see a boycott of bbbjcim providers
It's been mentioned before, it's all about risk management... how much risk each of us is willing to accept.
An agency that has never outed anyone, compared to an agency that has outed at least three people (so far), to a lot of people it's an easy choice.
Others may be willing to open themselves to more risk (as negligible as some people may claim). We are all grown adults, we can make, and live with our own choices.
 

frankcastle

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Fristly, no... there is too much competition for Cupids to get anyone I am worth risking my privacy for... unless of course they can land Annie Lennox or Julie Andrews.
Secondly... sure, Jillian had THIS girls back (maybe?)... what about the girl she outed to her SO? Don't think she had HER back.
Do you know the full story of that other situation?
 

apoptygma

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Add to that there are spas with horriblre rep on terb yet girls continue to work there and the doors remain open despite having well regarded spas nearby. And the owners ignore the suggestions and feedback.

Bad press on terb is not as dramatic as one would think.
Yeah... I would be curious to know the percentage of clients that actually have an online presence and do research before visiting.
With MPs in particular... I think A LOT of their clientele is local workers who see a sign, get curious, and visit.
I used to work in an area that had quite a few MPs and that's the impression I got.
 

frankcastle

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Yeah... I would be curious to know the percentage of clients that actually have an online presence and do research before visiting.
With MPs in particular... I think A LOT of their clientele is local workers who see a sign, get curious, and visit.
I used to work in an area that had quite a few MPs and that's the impression I got.
Agreed. Location is a big factor for me.
 
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