CupidsEscorts Tweets a Client's Information
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I'm all for outing if someone has been tried and convicted in a court of law for an offence against an SP, OR if The SP is going to take criminal/civil action against a perpetrator. This also means that if you are a proven liar you should be ready to face consequences for your actions. The same would apply to a case involving a John making a complaint against an SP.
The media outs people for many crimes before they are convicted, often times to reach out to other potential victims.
The media outs people for many crimes before they are convicted, often times to reach out to other potential victims.
I think they do open themselves to legal action (civil lawsuit) when putting peoples personal information out like that on social media with no proof (guilty verdict) from the court of law. If some SJW took some way of physical or damaging action against this individual or his property I believe this person would have legal recourse both against who ever took those actions if caught and Cupids, probably why they took down the tweet. Again this in no way is to excuse sexual assault but if this did happen they should be contacting the police and having charges laid against this asshole, but unfortunately outing him already publicly could possibly hurt their case now.
And another issue I have is this is not the first time that Cupids has done this, they have outed another client previously as well as an SP who has worked for them. They got away with it before and she thinks it's acceptable to do this, so let's not condone this behaviour either.
I'd like to clarify this ABOVE post to avoid further confusion. I was referring to a previous incident reported on the blue board where "Mongrel" AKA "Gene Kelly" was accused of trying to get an SP give him bbfs. This was a separate accusation which differs from the recent Cupid allegation, unless he's done something else which I am not aware of.
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Indys ask for more screening information. I don't use any SP service that asks for personal information with the "promise" to keep private. Yeah right! And they turn around and do this? Once they put out personal info there's no turning back no matter what the excuse.
If the allegation about stealthing is untrue - yes.
But is the guy really going to go to court about this when he has committed a criminal offence just by using an escort??!!
And what does he tell the judge> - "My reputation has been ruined. So now no other women will allow me to book them."
And the judge says: "That's a good thing. Booking an escort is a criminal offence. This all saves you from being a criminal john and booking escorts."
The best way to avoid all this is to use hotel rooms for incalls, burner phones, a fake name and always pay in cash
Except this is not a commercial transaction since the transaction itself is illegal.
The hotel will have a record of your name, though there would be plausible deniability I agree.
Yup, many bank on the plausible deniability when raping a woman. That much is true.
Maybe I am wrong. I assumed that it just applied to federal organizations, since normally federal legislation does not apply to commercial activity outside certain narrow fields.
But the material on the Act suggest that it is universally applied in Canada. So my bad on that.
I deleted my other posts about lawsuits and PIPEDA, because I should find out more about those topics before trying to give an opinion.
No it's commercial. The escort agency will deny knowing anything about sex. Cupids denies that the escorts engage in sex in their FAQ page on their site.
Ah.... that makes sense I guess. But then we revert back to what you said regarding the truth of the events, no?
Or is he right about PIPEDA? Would that apply?
Never mind. I just read your reply to him.
Not if you use an agency incall (like Roommates or Mirage).
Anyways, with todays social media all privacy is pretty much lost. Thats why a lot of people are getting rid of FB, instagram, linkediin......etc.
The real dummies are the ones who post their vacation pics on Instagram WHILE they're still on vacation :doh:
I thought outcalls are technically legal, as are outcall escort agencies (which only offer companionship!)? The sex just happens, but no outcall agency guarantees this. Whereas incalls, if the location is raided would be considered a “bawdy house”.
That’s why I don’t understand the reluctance to get LE involved. To me, this is clearly assault. Other posts have said that this is debatable - but given the circumstances, there is no way that the police would not at least give this guy a call to question him.
Handling this the way the owner did is very troubling - if the guy is going to be outed, let it happen via an arrest warrant. Until then, keep the info private and share it only via back channels for the protection of everybody. As it stands, this guy is outed publicly, but free to book with another agency (even an incall, or MPA). Who knows, now he might really try to take his problem out on his next victim.
That’s why I don’t understand the reluctance to get LE involved. To me, this is clearly assault. Other posts have said that this is debatable - but given the circumstances, there is no way that the police would not at least give this guy a call to question him.
Handling this the way the owner did is very troubling - if the guy is going to be outed, let it happen via an arrest warrant. Until then, keep the info private and share it only via back channels for the protection of everybody. As it stands, this guy is outed publicly, but free to book with another agency (even an incall, or MPA). Who knows, now he might really try to take his problem out on his next victim.
Laws changed. It is no longer outcalls are safe and incalls are not.
Cupids and any other agency can be charged for selling the sexual services of a third party. One of the lawyers here can give you the exact terms.
Also, the purchase of sexual services is now illegal. The selling of sexual services is not.
You may not understand why a girl would not go to the police, but you don't have to. There are plenty of reasons why a woman would not. It was already stated by Cupids, via twitter, they girl does not want to be re-victimized by police. Which is a very very real possibility.
We also don't know this girl's private personal life and how LE involved would affect that. Many of these girls work for an agency to keep this shit out of their personal lives.
This is why women in this industry are so preyed upon. Because even now, when we are not criminals for selling sex, we still can't really go to the police for many reasons. And since many, as you see here, are of the opinion that if you didn't go to the police then it didn't happen, who wants to deal with that? Really? On top of being raped, we are going to say it never happened because you didn't go get treated like shit by the police as well.
Sadly, while I understand the frustration of Jillian and many other women who suffer this way on a regular basis, the outing of his name has done nothing but set us and our attempts at remaining safe in this industry, back a few in the struggle. This thread shows it. Everyone is so much more concerned about the clients rights then the girl who was allegedly raped.
No one is going to bother remembering the girl that was raped. All they are going to remember is the very real fact that clients can and do get outed.
Very sad.
I keep imagining how the escort felt when this happened - violated and assaulted, with her health (and possibly the health of her SO and future clients) put at risk. She must have been terrified even to call him out on it in the moment. What if her anger/disgust provoked the client to violence? I can barely imagine how she felt in that moment, and how she feels even now, and whether she'll ever again feel safe in this career. Jillian is right to be furious. She can ban this asshole from her agency, but it would be virtually impossible to warn every other agency/provider in the city. However you feel about the public outing, it will get the word to the 1000's of providers on twitter.
I won't stop booking with Cupids, as their services and standards are the best of any agency in the city. This manifests itself in providers who are (or at least act) happy to be there. This manifests itself in providers who feel supported. This manifests itself in providers who go in to sessions with confidence and a sense of their own sexual agency.
Do I fear for my own information being revealed? No. I don't rape women. I don't stealth women. I don't assault women. I DO respect women. I DO work hard to make them feel comfortable and make our encounters fun. Is there a 0.001% risk that a troubled provider would make a false accusation against me, despite having nothing to gain from such an accusation? Sure. But I'm comfortable with that. It's probably the smallest of the risks we face in this pursuit.
I won't stop booking with Cupids, as their services and standards are the best of any agency in the city. This manifests itself in providers who are (or at least act) happy to be there. This manifests itself in providers who feel supported. This manifests itself in providers who go in to sessions with confidence and a sense of their own sexual agency.
Do I fear for my own information being revealed? No. I don't rape women. I don't stealth women. I don't assault women. I DO respect women. I DO work hard to make them feel comfortable and make our encounters fun. Is there a 0.001% risk that a troubled provider would make a false accusation against me, despite having nothing to gain from such an accusation? Sure. But I'm comfortable with that. It's probably the smallest of the risks we face in this pursuit.
What Jessica says is very similar to the responses I got from 2 escort friends with whom I discussed this.
They both supported Cupids and what Jillian did as a practical way to ensure that clients didn't try to get away with abusing girls in future. I think girls who deal with clients every day - and some of those clients are total assholes in various ways - have a very different perspective than guys who are abstractly discussing this on TERB.
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