I don't think we should do it guys. It's not fair to punish regular Russian folks with trade restrictions and other economic penalties for shit they didn't do. That's just cruel and assholistic jackassery
Without knowing specific details of what these sanctions actually involve, look at it this way. The Russians are whining about and trying to get rid of the sanctions very hard, even via using Trump. It is an obvious and undeniable conclusion that the sanctions must be hurting Russia. Most likely, economically. Most likely, any further sanctions will hurt them even more and with an already struggling economy.I don't think we should do it guys. It's not fair to punish regular Russian folks with trade restrictions and other economic penalties for shit they didn't do. That's just cruel and assholistic jackassery
Without looking it up a bit, as I recall/understand it, the most recent sanctions involving annexing Crimea are directed at specific Russian oligarchs.I don't think we should do it guys. It's not fair to punish regular Russian folks with trade restrictions and other economic penalties for shit they didn't do. That's just cruel and assholistic jackassery
Okay, you're right. The Russians can hack your elections and make a mockery out of your democracy any time they want and you Americans don't have the backbone and the balls to stand up to them.... because "it reinforces the idea that the United States is the Enemy." Which of course the Russians wouldn't ever, ever, ever have anyway, would they?1) It reinforces the idea that the United States is the Enemy 2) That the United States is irrational and untrustworthy 3) it does little to make Russia want to change
On the other side of the coin
4) it makes many in Congress feel good -- we showed those damn Ruskies 5) it doubly makes Democrats feel good since it feeds into the story-line that HRC only lost the election because the Russians made her loose the election.
Is punishing ALL Russians what the sanctions do are intended to do?It seems to me that some guys have not left the cold war era. I find it interesting that many of them are vehemently against demonizing a whole race or religion because of a few bad apples, but are quick to sentence all Russians to punishment because their ruling class has fucked them over for centuries.
Actually they won't. Mostly they restrict certain people and companies and freeze assets.Is punishing ALL Russians what the sanctions do are intended to do?
"And poof go the collusion arguments"?Going to be interesting to watch this. Trump may well sign the bill. And poof go the collusion arguments.
The core is he will drop the sanctions. That's where the argument for collusion lies. If he signs for more sanctions when he is supposedly beholden or in some camps being blackmailed it pretty much blows the whole motive out the door."And poof go the collusion arguments"?
Damned if does or if he doesn't.The core is he will drop the sanctions. That's where the argument for collusion lies. If he signs for more sanctions when he is supposedly beholden or in some camps being blackmailed it pretty much blows the whole motive out the door.
History first, as you know, a third of those in the lower 13 British Atlantic Colonies did feel that way, and two-thirds did not actively support the "patriot cause." Indeed Canada is in large measure the country it is today, rather than an occupied Nouvelle-France and Acadia due to that first third.If Americans felt the way you did in 1775, they'd still be lining up at Buckingham Palace to be given ding-dongs and medallions by HM.
There are two or perhaps three worlds in Russia, the cities particularly Saint-Petersburg and Moscow, and rural areas, particularly rural areas outside the wheat belt. It is in the rural areas that are not major agricultural producers that the deep poverty is found in Russia.More sanctions will cause more young Russians to go into prostitution, which would be beneficial to johns like me. But I'm a good person and prefer they not be sanctioned.
Not all Russians. The Russian state. And one of those who hasn't left the cold war era is V. V. Putin.It seems to me that some guys have not left the cold war era. I find it interesting that many of them are vehemently against demonizing a whole race or religion because of a few bad apples, but are quick to sentence all Russians to punishment because their ruling class has fucked them over for centuries.
Yes I'm willing to suffer some economic pain in order to safeguard the international system from Putin.What else is the "globalists" are now suddenly willing to risk trade issues with the EU. Numerous European companies would be affected by new sanctions. And they could retaliate. Europe is not going to side with the USA. Not when there gas supplies are on the line.
Going to be interesting to watch this. Trump may well sign the bill. And poof go the collusion arguments.