Norwegian ruling party votes to ban circumcision for men under 16 years old

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As long as there's a scalpel involved, it sounds like surgery to me.
Thats not entirely true it can also be torture. Either way it is a brutal thing to do to a new born baby. If a parent was to ask a doctor to pierce a newborns earlobes it would be classified as abuse. But snipping off a highly sensitive foreskin is ok dokie.

Its ridiculous to think on a female baby is mutilation, but on a baby boy its common procedure.
 

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If you are a newborn baby that is recovering from surgery and you experience any of the following symptoms:
*one sided weakness
*confusion
*trouble speaking
*trouble following simple instructions
*loss of balance
*loss of vision
*severe headache
call 911 immediately or use baby rattle Morse code
 

danmand

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Yup.

"Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law:

2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion; ..... "

More kooky religious stuff, Smally. Wanna tell me what I just quoted at you?
How wonderfully logical that we do not allow parents to give their children a tattoo, but allow them to mutilate their genitals.
 

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3 Ways Corporations Profit Off Harvesting Baby Foreskin


But, there’s a medical benefit to robbing men of sexual sensation, right? No. There are no professional medical associations in the United States or anywhere else in the world which recommend routine circumcision as medically necessary. In fact, leaving boys intact is becoming the norm in the U.S., as parents realize the risks and harms of circumcision.

Still, circumcision is readily done within the United States, and just as corporations make money off war, they also make money off the suffering of babies.

There exists a Holy Grail in the cosmetic industry to create a cream that sheds years off your skin. Scientists have discovered such a ingredient, fibroblast cells. Fibroblasts cause the skin to regrow the elasticity and elegance of youth for whoever uses a fibroblast-based cream. What is the best source for these wonder cells? Baby foreskins.

Infant’s foreskin has special cell properties , similar to those found in stem cells. Their versatility means that they can be used to cultivate skin cells.

Because of this, they’re not tossed out with the rest of the medical waste after a birth. Instead, hospitals sell them to companies and institutions for a wide variety of uses. Companies will pay thousands of dollars for a single foreskin.

Some of the strangest purposes they’re put to:

Cosmetics: Foreskins are used to make high-end skin creams. The skin products contain fibroblasts grown on the foreskin and harvested from it. One foreskin can be used for decades to produce fancy face cream like the SkinMedica products hawked on Oprah.

Skin grafts: In addition to making products for skin, a baby’s foreskin can be turned into a skin graft for a burn victim. Because the cells are extremely flexible, they’re less likely to be rejected. Currently, this technology can be lifesaving in providing a real skin “band aid” to cover an open wound while a burn victim heals. Researchers at Harvard and Tufts are working on advanced skin replacements that use human foreskins.

Cosmetic testing: All those cruelty-free cosmetics you buy? Some of them are tested on foreskins. This yields better results, since they’re human skin. And it saves the lives of the rodents your shampoo would otherwise be tested on.


It is estimated that a single male foreskin can retail for around $100,000, which means that companies like SkinMedica – who use baby foreskin to create their skin care product – sell their foreskin facial creams for $150 an ounce.

Now, you also have companies like Pfizer—the creator of Viagra— making money off of Erectile Dysfunction that is directly linked to circumcision. So if you’re wondering why various institutions are backing such a barbaric practice, think about the amount of money being made. Is it really ethical to rob a male of their sexual pleasure in the name of religion or profit?

http://thinkaboutnow.com/2016/03/3-wayscorporationsprofitoffbaby-foreskin14/
 

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What kind of nonsense is that, counsellor? Putting a turban or a yarmulke on a baby has nothing to do with genital mutilation.
Are you unable to grasp the difference?

BTW, most countries do not allow parents to have their children tattooed.
How wonderfully logical that we do not allow parents to give their children a tattoo, but allow them to mutilate their genitals.
Dan, you do realize you are trying to talk logic and reason to a confirmed liberal lefty. You will have more success talking to a ............................
 

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Dan, you do realize you are trying to talk logic and reason to a confirmed liberal lefty. You will have more success talking to a ............................
Barn Door?
 

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Yup.

"Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law:

2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion; ..... "

More kooky religious stuff, Smally. Wanna tell me what I just quoted at you?
That's not carte blanche for ANY religious practice.
 

danmand

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It's a symbol of religious adherence. Like a turban or a yarmulke.

It's not a symbol of MY religious adherence. But I doubt the local Imam or Rabbi is going to be too pleased about this law.
What if there is a religion that requires the parents to chop of the ears of newborn babies. Is that OK?

I am personally proud of the fact that Scandinavia often is ahead of the rest of the world.
 

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What if there is a religion that requires the parents to chop of the ears of newborn babies. Is that OK?

I am personally proud of the fact that Scandinavia often is ahead of the rest of the world.
Doubt it. But circumcision has a few millennia of tradition behind it. And Norway's position is unique in the world at this point. Not a good combination.
 

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Gone a long time ago,...

That's not carte blanche for ANY religious practice.
Actually,... religion has NO effect on any laws in Canada.

You will NEVER hear the bible quoted in Canadian law.
 

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That's not carte blanche for ANY religious practice.
Novel or weird ones, probably not, as Danmand just brought out. Circumcision is neither.

BTW Did you guess / know the extract I quoted? You may want to spend a little time reading it over. Just in general.
 

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Italianguy, do you know how many male infants are born each year in North America, how many are circumcised, and how many suffer complications.

Surly there must be hundreds of thousands if not millions of serious complications - right :Eek:
 

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I wonder what the "it's painful crowd" thinks about shots within minutes of birth, 2, 4, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21 months, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ... years.
http://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=5928.60

Baby/child vaccinations that lead to serious complications:

"That doesn't mean that vaccines aren't capable of causing adverse effects beyond a sore arm and a slight fever. In 1986, the government created the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program to reimburse families whose children had serious side effects, and it has awarded nearly $2 billion on 2,398 claims. But most doctors say that the odds of experiencing a vaccine-related injury are greatly outweighed by the dangers of catching a vaccine-preventable disease. The measles vaccine, for instance, can cause a temporary reduction in platelets (which control bleeding after an injury) in 1 in 30,000 children, but 1 in 2,000 will die if they get measles itself. The DTaP vaccine can cause seizures or a temporary "shocklike" state in 1 in 14,000 people, and acute encephalitis (brain swelling) in 11 in 1 million. But the diseases it prevents -- diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis -- are fatal in 1 in 20 cases, 1 in 10 cases, and 1 in 1,500 cases, respectively."

"If the FDA determines that a vaccine poses a real risk to more than a tiny percentage of children, the agency won't let it be used. "Before a new vaccine is approved, it goes through a prospective, placebo-controlled trial involving tens of thousands of children," says Dr. Offit, who was a cocreator of RotaTeq, one of two current rotavirus gastroenteritis vaccines. Once a vaccine is in use, side-effect reports are analyzed by the Vaccine Safety Datalink, a program that collects patient information from managed-care organizations. In 2001, government scientists concluded that Wyeth's Rotashield, an earlier vaccine against rotavirus, could cause one extra case of bowel obstruction for every 10,000 babies who were immunized each year, and they halted its use in the U.S. Sometimes vaccines are pulled from shelves as a precaution: In 2007, certain lots of Merck's Hib vaccine were recalled after the company found bacteria on manufacturing equipment, even though the vaccines themselves tested negative for contamination."

http://www.parents.com/health/vaccines/controversy/vaccines-the-reality-behind-the-debate/

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Doubt it. But circumcision has a few millennia of tradition behind it. And Norway's position is unique in the world at this point. Not a good combination.
Female genital mutilation also had millennia of tradition behind it, until quite recently when all civilized nations outlawed it. Same with tattooing children.

One country has to be the first. I am proud of Norway.
 

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As long as there's a scalpel involved, it sounds like surgery to me.

You can have the opinion that it sounds the same to you, but factually that is incorrect.

Scalpels are used in my ways and not are are surgical.


Thats not entirely true it can also be torture. Either way it is a brutal thing to do to a new born baby. If a parent was to ask a doctor to pierce a newborns earlobes it would be classified as abuse. But snipping off a highly sensitive foreskin is ok dokie.
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Newborns get ears pierced all the time. Don't even need to be a doctor. Most stores wait for 3 months but certainly not abuse at any age.

And correct me if I am wrong. But is the foreskin that is actually highly sensitive or is the head of the penis that it covers????
 

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Female genital mutilation also had millennia of tradition behind it, until quite recently when all civilized nations outlawed it. Same with tattooing children.

One country has to be the first. I am proud of Norway.
Kudos to Norway. It's call evolution. Nature gave males the foreskin. Don't fcuk with nature.
 

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But is the foreskin that is actually highly sensitive or is the head of the penis that it covers????
If you are female, think of the foreskin as the clit hood and the glan as the clit. How would you feel if somebody removed your clit hood?
 

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Newborns get ears pierced all the time. Don't even need to be a doctor. Most stores wait for 3 months but certainly not abuse at any age.
Some obvious differences:

-If you remove the earring, the miniature hole of skin grows back on its own.
-Ears are not a significant sex organ
 

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Novel or weird ones, probably not, as Danmand just brought out. Circumcision is neither.

BTW Did you guess / know the extract I quoted? You may want to spend a little time reading it over. Just in general.
I will read the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms tonight.
 

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Novel or weird ones, probably not, as Danmand just brought out. Circumcision is neither.

I think it is, and I bet you the majority of Scandinavians think likewise.

I agree that it will be a long time before a ban comes to America. But Europe may be another tale.
 
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