That is very different than what you said.
You specifically said "tie him up".
1)That is a penalty.
2)Maybe you should choose your words more carefully.
Toronto Maple Leafs - 2016/17 Season
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1)That is a penalty.
2)Maybe you should choose your words more carefully.
Leafs win ! 7-1 is the official score, but I see it as a 7-0 win.
One of the weakest calls in the NHL in a long, long time. In my opinion it was not even a penalty, much less a penalty shot.
Andersen was very good last night, Matthews scored two nice goals and Nylander with an absolute beauty(lol).
One of the weakest calls in the NHL in a long, long time. In my opinion it was not even a penalty, much less a penalty shot.
Andersen was very good last night, Matthews scored two nice goals and Nylander with an absolute beauty(lol).
Am I the only one that thinks the NHL should do more to explain ref discipline? Isn't admitting that the stripes are wrong strengthen the integrity of the league?
No kidding ! I even stayed up late just to watch the Bruins/Ducks game. Boston gave up a goal with 2+ minutes left and lost in regulation. Florida and Philidelphia also lost and it was a great night for the Leafs who gained ground without playing.
I'd like to see the Leafs use the backup goaltender a little more often since he's going okay right now.
A lot of games Andersen doesn't seem mentally prepared to play the game when the opening faceoff takes place and he gives up too many first period goals before he gets dialled in to some kind of groove.
I was hoping for something better than a .913 save percentage when they acquired him.
A lot of games Andersen doesn't seem mentally prepared to play the game when the opening faceoff takes place and he gives up too many first period goals before he gets dialled in to some kind of groove.
I was hoping for something better than a .913 save percentage when they acquired him.
Lou Lamariello was interviewed by Tim and Manly Man.
He was asked if there were any trades upcoming. He replied that he'll only consider a trade if it's in the best interest of the team - proper. There's no rush, this season has been gravy. And there are prospects with the Marlies, Andrew Nielsen is getting the seasoning he needs. He'll probably name the team next year. The Leafs have been notorious in trading from a position of disadvantage, Lou wont let that happen.
No Anton Stralman for Joe Primeau for him.
He was asked if there were any trades upcoming. He replied that he'll only consider a trade if it's in the best interest of the team - proper. There's no rush, this season has been gravy. And there are prospects with the Marlies, Andrew Nielsen is getting the seasoning he needs. He'll probably name the team next year. The Leafs have been notorious in trading from a position of disadvantage, Lou wont let that happen.
No Anton Stralman for Joe Primeau for him.
That was better......Florida and Ottawa both lose!
Montreal tonight......need a 2 point win!
All wins are worth 2 points, but not all games are 2 point games.
Lots of NHL games award 3 points. Ugh.
There will be no Nylander fo Shattenkirk trade for sure.
Here's an article from James Tanner of editorinleaf.com with some very interesting points :
[ If I have properly gauged the mood of ‘Leafs Nation’ this is not going to be a very popular take on the Toronto Maple Leafs.
To be honest, I think a good part of this team’s fans are delusional. This delusion is caused by years of failure. Years of teams making short-term moves that didn’t pan out.
A team known for it’s lack of organizational patience has now conditioned it’s fans to be too patient. It’s OK. It’s a normal reaction. But the people who insist the Toronto Maple Leafs are still in rebuild and need to be patient don’t understand the realities of a league with a salary cap.
I’m going to lay out for you why the Leafs need to be buyers at this year’s trade deadline. Why they need to do what they can to make sure they ice the best team possible for attempting to win the Cup this spring.
Now, before you skip the rest and rush out to tweet me about how stupid I am, keep this in mind: I do not recommend trading any young roster players. I do not recommend making any short-term moves that are just for this year.
Salary Cap
Every time someone says you ‘can’t rush the rebuild’ I want to smash my head into the nearest wall. They think rebuilding is this linear process that takes a really long time.
I guess it usually does, but the Leafs are an exception for two reasons.
1) They got lucky in an insane way. The Leafs drafted three franchise players in a row (Nylander, Marner, Matthews) one of which is a generational talent on par with Crosby, McDavid and Ovechkin.
2) They somehow managed to compliment these rookies with three above average first-line worthy players who are in their primes: James Van Riemsdyk, Jake Gardiner and Nazem Kadri. Also, they have an elite defensive forward in Komarov. Plus, a solid #1 goalie in Frederik Andersen.
Now, when you combine these two exceptions to the rebuilding rules, with the realities of a salary cap, you see the Leafs have solid reasoning to be buyers right now. The fact is the Salary Cap NHL favors teams with star rookies because they are cheap. Matthews is as good as players making $9 million dollar cap hits, and he essentially doesn’t even have one.
Add in Marner and Nylander also being on entry-level contracts, and the players in their prime being all on team friendly deals, and the Leafs somehow have one of the best rosters in the NHL with 15 million in cap space.
That is essentially a once-in-a-life-time situation. The Leafs will have three years in which they can take advantage of this major loophole. (Because ECLs are three-years long).
The thing is, while the two years after this will clearly be their best window for winning (not their only one, just their best) there is no point in wasting this year.
Weaknesses + Strengths
The Leafs aren’t a perfect team. They are probably better than you think though. Their ability to blow leads and lose in shoot-outs is, mathematically speaking, almost entirely just bad luck. So ignore them.
The team could use a power-forward, a top-line defensive dman, some bottom-pairing and fourth-line depth, but otherwise it’s pretty good.
They lead the NHL in special-teams. The Leafs are the second-best goal-scoring team. They are top-ten at 5v5 puck-possession.
If you took away the logos and just looked at raw stats, you might be surprised to see that, statistically, the Leafs are a team ranked between 5th and 10th best in the NHL.
They play in the weakest division in hockey. The Toronto Maple Leafs could reasonably see the teams who are better then them beat the crap out of each other in divisional playoff match-ups. Thanks to the NHL’s insane playoff formatting.
To Sum Up
The Toronto Maple Leafs should be buyers at the trade deadline.
This is because:
They are statistically a top 10 team.
Have a good probability of favorable playoff match-ups
Currently 1.5 games out of 1st in Atlantic w/ 22 to go.
Have 15+ million in cap-space
Enjoy three all-star quality players on ECL deals
Have a solid mix of players in the primes + rookies
Even if they don’t win this year (they probably won’t) the experience of a run will be very helpful in the next two years when they’ll have their biggest window for winning.
The Toronto Maple Leafs really are in a crazy situation right now. Maybe they aren’t this healthy next year. Maybe their division is better. They’ll have less cap space next year…while there are tons of reasons to be patient, the fact is, the Leafs are in a situation that may never come along again.
They don’t need to make trades for rental players, or go ‘all-in’ but they can still be buyers in a way that doesn’t hurt them going forward. If they do that, they might get lucky and win a Stanley Cup while 90% of their fan base still insists they’re in a rebuild. ]
The Leafs don't need Kevin Shattenkirk - Alex Pietrangelo, that's a different story.
When he played for the Raptors Andrea Bargiani was ridiculed for Primo Pasta commercials. Not sure why, when they played for the Leafs Peter Zezel and Mike Foligno were Primo pitchmen. And it was Doug Gilmour's pre game meal. Primo bought a stake in MLSE through Steve Stavro.
When he played for the Raptors Andrea Bargiani was ridiculed for Primo Pasta commercials. Not sure why, when they played for the Leafs Peter Zezel and Mike Foligno were Primo pitchmen. And it was Doug Gilmour's pre game meal. Primo bought a stake in MLSE through Steve Stavro.
It'll be very interesting to see if Lou makes any move to improve the defence before the trade deadline. I don't think they'll move any of the core guys but maybe a third round pick or someone on the Marlies roster for a face off specialist or veteran defence man who's better than half of what they've got now.
With what the defence and offence have shown so far, I'm pretty confident to say that the team will remain competitive the rest of the season. Whether they make the playoffs or not will largely depend on Anderssen. The good to great Anderssen can put the Leafs in a top three position in the division. Any trade deadline move for depth will be irrelevant if they don't get great goaltending the rest of the way.
With what the defence and offence have shown so far, I'm pretty confident to say that the team will remain competitive the rest of the season. Whether they make the playoffs or not will largely depend on Anderssen. The good to great Anderssen can put the Leafs in a top three position in the division. Any trade deadline move for depth will be irrelevant if they don't get great goaltending the rest of the way.
