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basketcase

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Don't they refer to themselves as the Nation of Islam? ....
Are you talking about the black liberation movement in the US?

As has been said many times, Islam is extremely diffuse. There is absolutely no central authority to be referred to as "they".
 

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And the United States would be a failed state if its government fell. Thanks for illustrating the logical dead end known as a tautology.
Actually the US government falls every 4-8 years. New leadership takes over and although there is often social upheaval at the start, things settle down and move on.
 

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Actually the US government falls every 4-8 years. New leadership takes over and although there is often social upheaval at the start, things settle down and move on.
No it doesn't fall. There is tremendous inbuilt continuity.
 

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If there was another choice other than Saud's family (which does enjoy their western privileges), the real hardliners, or chaos,
There are no nice guys in the Middle East. Repeat, there are no nice guys in the Middle East. All the nice guys were killed off a long time ago. Even the Israelis can't afford to be nice guys.
 

Insidious Von

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There are no nice guys in the Middle East. Repeat, there are no nice guys in the Middle East. All the nice guys were killed off a long time ago. Even the Israelis can't afford to be nice guys.
Wow Rocco is right.

And so was TE Lawrence. The French and the English got greedy after WWI, parceling off the Middle East among themselves. It proved to be a disaster. Lawrence's plan was to create an independent Arab state ruled by the Hashemite Family (Faisal I was portrayed by Alec Guinness in the film). That would have included Syria, Jordan and Iraq, being a moderate it would have brought stability to the region. For helping the Allies defeat the Ottoman Turks, the Hashemite clan ended up with only Jordan which is today the most stable nation in the region.

Faisal I also had an agreement with Chaim Weizmann, founder of modern Israel to allow Jews to emigrate to Palestine. Unfortunately Faisal died at age 48 in 1933, under shady circumstances, and with him went the hope for a peaceful Middle East.
 

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Don't forget Christianity's support of slavery, a lovely period.
And the Nazi, Christian, holocaust.

But the biggest genocide of all should be put on the back of Christian colonialism through the genocide of natives across North America, bigger then the holocaust. That one has been estimated at around 100 million, though people debate whether it counts as genocide or not.
There was also King Leopold of Belgium in Congo which allegedly had a higher body count than the Holocaust.
 

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Actually the US government falls every 4-8 years. New leadership takes over and although there is often social upheaval at the start, things settle down and move on.
That is how democracy differs from mob rule. The people always win, as they have forever. But in democracies they do it peaceably, by counting and the 'losers' are confident they are still part of the community and won't be made to suffer.

But that's always a fragile balance, and a serious one when the partisan divides are deep and wide. An American government that damages that confidence — especially if the 'losers' outnumber the supporters of the government — runs a high risk. Gotta remember those second Amendment folks.
 

Insidious Von

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There was also King Leopold of Belgium in Congo which allegedly had a higher body count than the Holocaust.
Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness is based on King Leopold's cruel regime. Congo, even with all it's natural wealth, has never recovered.

As great as Francis Ford Copolla's transference of the novel is, there is nothing to match the imagery of emaciated blacks dying in filth as Captain Willard starts his journey up the Congo River.

"I see no method".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T-VAi2Xqq8
 

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Do you even read your own links?? I was talking about muslim immigration into Europe, not the US.

For reasons unbeknownst to experts muslims tend to integrate better into American society than European society. Maybe thats because there's more jobs available on this continent

Here, read this: http://www.ibtimes.com/why-do-american-muslims-fare-better-their-french-counterparts-2189449
frankfooter and other leftists here have poor reading comprehension problems
 

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... That would have included Syria, Jordan and Iraq, ....
It did include those three. Faisal briefly ruled Syria until he lost it to the French and then (he and his kids) ruled Iraq until the monarchy was overthrown in 1958. Just Jordan that they rule now.
 

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Nope. They adopted whatever religion was common in the area they were in. Mongols in already Islamic terroritory adopted Islam but most of them were in the east where Buddhism was more prevalent and they adopted that. Most of them became Tibetan Buddhists, and the "Dalai Lama" was a title conferred by the Mongol emperor in those days.

Beijing was founded by Kublai Khan (on the site of a previous city that he razed).
 

Insidious Von

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Rocco is partially right, the Mongols that invaded Kievan Rus were Muslim.

They invaded from what is today Uzbekistan, they converted to Islam to better control Persia. The events of the late 14th Century robbed Russia of a Renaissance. The Duchy of Muscovy had become strong and wealthy, Prince Dmitri took the opportunity to gain freedom by challenging the dominance of the Kazan Khanate. The ensuing war was extremely bloody, but eventually he did manage to take Kazan. He declared the new Kingdom of Russia just as the Timurid Mongols showed up. With his armies decimated, Dmitri had no choice but to submit. The Golden Horde was established with a new capital at the more defensive Sevastopol in Crimea.
 

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Fuji is here to tell us what's wrong and what's right.

After he's done googling stuff
 

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Rocco is partially right, the Mongols that invaded Kievan Rus were Muslim.

They invaded from what is today Uzbekistan, they converted to Islam to better control Persia. The events of the late 14th Century robbed Russia of a Renaissance. The Duchy of Muscovy had become strong and wealthy, Prince Dmitri took the opportunity to gain freedom by challenging the dominance of the Kazan Khanate. The ensuing war was extremely bloody, but eventually he did manage to take Kazan. He declared the new Kingdom of Russia just as the Timurid Mongols showed up. With his armies decimated, Dmitri had no choice but to submit. The Golden Horde was established with a new capital at the more defensive Sevastopol in Crimea.
Sort of a garbled version of what actually happened. But kudos for at least making an effort.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanate_of_Kazan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Bulgaria

It's interesting (in view of Sky rider's endless pathetic and racist attempts to portray Muslims as history's villains) to note that the Muslim Bulgars were invaded and exterminated by the Shamanist Mongols with up to 80% of their people being slaughtered.
 

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Muslim Bulgars were invaded and exterminated by the Shamanist Mongols with up to 80% of their people being slaughtered.
How long was the reign of terror of the Shamanist Mongols? Probably way less than 1,400 years.
 

Insidious Von

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How long was the reign of terror of the Shamanist Mongols? Probably way less than 1,400 years.
From a European perspective, less than 250 years. This covers the timeframe from the invasion of Hungary to the breaking of Golden Horde power by Tsar Ivan III.

Since I read about the reign of Dmitri Donskoi (Dmitri of the Don) long ago, I checked the facts. He was the first ruler of Russia to challenge Mongol dominance. He also began construction of The Kremlin to better defend Moscow. He was the first Russian Ruler to win battles against The Golden Horde. He was canonized a Saint by the Orthodox Church.

He had rotten luck, he won the war for Russian Independence, he defeated Khan Mamei only to have Timurlane in his grill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXbxGwf5vhE
 

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How long was the reign of terror of the Shamanist Mongols? Probably way less than 1,400 years.
Since they virtually exterminated the Bulgars, probably not long. The Mongols were quick workers.
 
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