You know you've made your point IG when 6 different posters have to quote you because you've 'triggered' them lmao
KING: Donald Trump remains silent as white men terrorize America
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The Roman Empire, British empire, American empire and even Ghengis Khan have all taken over large chunks of the world with similar methods. The Ottoman Empire wasn't even a religious based empire, it gave rights to Christians, Jews and others within it.
And you're a committed crusader against Islam centuries after the last official Crusade. The worst wars are the Holy Wars, you can spot them because they have nothing to do with 'real' causes like territory, only that the guys who are wearing the Crescent instead of the Cross are irredeemable devils.
BTW those Christian Imperialists of yours got really into slaughtering their Irish Christian schismatics about 1500 years after Christ, and kept it up against non-Christians from The Caribbean to Calcutta well into at least the XIXth Century. All in the name of spreading the true Word of God to the heathens. And guys like you are still spreading it.
The enemy isn't Islam. The 'enemy' is True Believers, who ignore reality to maintain their fear of The Other. They come in all colours, all religions and no religion at all. But the one thing that makes them all similar is they 'know' they are good, so anyone different can only be evil, and they don't need facts for either case.
Like the ones burning Muslim villages in Myanmar? Or the Buddhist samurai class of old Japan? Just which religion are all those Chinese warrior monks anyway?
There isn't a religion on the face of the planet that doesn't have bloody hands. That is if you want to blame a religion for the barbarisms and cruelties of those who claim they believe in it.
To me, the essence of being human is that you and you alone are responsible for being a good person or an evil one. Nothing to do with something in a book or a sermon. Blaming someone's religion for what they do, is an denial of your responsibility to see them as a person with the same responsibility for their actions as you have. Seeing people as less than they are can never ever have a good outcome.
Wilful stupidity is the only true evil.
Don't forget Christianity's support of slavery, a lovely period.
And the Nazi, Christian, holocaust.
But the biggest genocide of all should be put on the back of Christian colonialism through the genocide of natives across North America, bigger then the holocaust. That one has been estimated at around 100 million, though people debate whether it counts as genocide or not.
We were talking terrorist attacks, smartypants. If you wanna start going down the road when wars were (wrongly) started, we're entering a whole new ballgame.
Lets just stick to European (muslim) terrorist attacks for the time being, shall we??
Christians ended slavery. Guess who started slavery and still practicing it to-day.
The Nazis lasted less than 20 years and they were extinguished by Christians.
If he knew something about it he wouldn't be blaming religion instead of foreign policy/wars/interventions/client states.
Last I heard from my late grandad, the Nazis were defeated by him and the Welsh Infantry Regiment. Pretty much single-handed. Guy who never went to church in his life except to get married one time.
You need to read your Bible. Old testament Jews kept slaves. And it isn't as if they were the first. The only 'slavery' Christians actually ended was their own, and they did that piecemeal. Let's not bring up American XXth century convict rentals, slavery in all but name.
Go ahead tell us who started slavery.
The Nazis, who attended every variety of Christian church, built their V2s with slaves. The Allied forces that defeated them included Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Agnostics, Animists, Atheists, and every variety of belief and non-belief. Considering the Soviet Army that invaded Berlin and did the major part of the fighting in Germany was officially atheist, it's ludicrous to claim Christians defeated the Nazis. Although they did help.
I wasn't aware that any of those were religious wars.
Not all wars involving Muslims had a religious basis either but groups like ISIS, Al Queda, and other Wahabi influenced groups clearly take religion as the justification for their acts.
You do realize that Islam isn't a country right?
But we can easily talk about Christianity's 1800 or so years of using violence to spread itself too.
p.s. for Franky, Buddhists have been involved in ethnic violence as well. For example it played a role in the Sinhalese/Tamil conflict in Sri Lanka. The last couple decades has seen a resurgence from the violent Buddhist fringe.
Another of your gems. Unless you believe the radical Islamists like ISIS who believe all of history is somehow Islamic, you might notice that slavery has been discussed in many pre-Islamic documents including the Bible, Roman histories, Assyrian, Babylonian, ....
But sure, try to pretend that Muslims are to blame for the slavery practiced by every society from the start of civilization until modern times.
This sentence is clearly misleading. The Saudi government today gets billions in support from the US to secure oil. The Saudis use some of that money promoting Wahhabi beliefs. They are two separate acts. At best you can say that the US is willing to accept Wahhabi Saudi Arabia in exchange for oil.
And the United States would be a failed state if its government fell. Thanks for illustrating the logical dead end known as a tautology.
Don't they refer to themselves as the Nation of Islam?
It is as much a political movement as anything. A cult. Pretty much atkin to fascism including the Big Brother figure and removal of anything that shows actual history.
