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Would you also agree that Palestinian civilians are killed about 10 times as often as Israeli civilians, yet you only ever complain about Israeli's being attacked?
Most of the Palestinian dead are in the process of attacking Israelis. The unfortunate cases are people who are attending violent riots where other people are attacking Israelis.
 

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Sorry but a prison sentence is not "deportation". You are simply making a fool of yourself.
The forcible transfer of 7000 Palestinians from the Occupied Territories to Israel is in violation of the Geneva Convention.

This is the Geneva Convention verbatim:

Palestinians out of the occupied territories:

"Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian
population from occupied territory.

No exceptions are listed.
 

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And the rest of your post is just justification for terrorism (as usual). You clearly identified that the CSCs are security guards for settlements. You are also going directly against what B'Tselem says about the civilian status of settlers.
Your second quote looks fabricated as it doesn't contain a link to the original post.
CSC's are armed by the IDF and paid by the IDF, why do you think they are still civilian?
 

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Your second quote looks fabricated as it doesn't contain a link to the original post.
CSC's are armed by the IDF and paid by the IDF, why do you think they are still civilian?
Look at you continuing to think attacks on zionists are a good thing. Security guards guarding their homes are not valid military targets.
 

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The forcible transfer of 7000 Palestinians from the Occupied Territories to Israel is in violation of the Geneva Convention.

This is the Geneva Convention verbatim:

Palestinians out of the occupied territories:

"Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian
population from occupied territory.

No exceptions are listed.
Continue making a fool of your self.
 

Frankfooter

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Look at you continuing to think attacks on zionists are a good thing. Security guards guarding their homes are not valid military targets.
If they were their legal homes, you might have a case.
But when those 'security guards' are defending illegal squatter sites for people who are not citizens, on squats ruled illegal by the UN, and those squatter security guards are in fact paid for and armed by the occupying army, they are no longer acting as civilians. They are armed militia.

Not civilians.
 

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The forcible transfer of 7000 Palestinians from the Occupied Territories to Israel is in violation of the Geneva Convention.

This is the Geneva Convention verbatim:

Palestinians out of the occupied territories:

"Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian
population from occupied territory.

No exceptions are listed.
No it isn't. Detention isn't population transfer. You post really dumb stuff.
 

Liminal

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No it isn't. Detention isn't population transfer. You post really dumb stuff.
Who said detention in the Occupied Territories is transfer? Detention and transfer are two different words, right? I said the forced transfer 7000 Palestinians out of the Occupied Territories to Israel is in violation of the Geneva Convention.


This is the Geneva Convention verbatim:

Palestinians out of the occupied territories:

"Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian
population from occupied territory.

No exceptions are listed for detention.
 

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I said the forced transfer 7000 Palestinians out of the Occupied Territories to Israel is in violation of the Geneva Convention.
No one else agrees with YOUR OPINION that incarceration counts as population transfer. You are wrong.
 

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Look at you continuing to think attacks on zionists are a good thing. Security guards guarding their homes are not valid military targets.
Here's a test for you.
Armed settlers attacked a Palestinian village and were stopped by the villagers.
Are they then:
a) terrorists
b) militants

If they are a) terrorists, then does that mean that they deserve the term 'cockroach' which you use to describe terrorists?
http://maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=775018
 

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Here's a test for you.
Armed settlers attacked a Palestinian village and were stopped by the villagers.
Are they then:
a) terrorists
b) militants

If they are a) terrorists, then does that mean that they deserve the term 'cockroach' which you use to describe terrorists?
http://maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=775018
Keep wriggling. There's no world in which you are going to be able to justify your reprehensible support for Hamas. You are not going to find some grey area that makes it wrong to call Hamas cockroaches.
 

Liminal

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No one else agrees with YOUR OPINION that incarceration counts as population transfer. You are wrong.
Who said incarceration in the Occupied Territories is transfer? Incarceration and transfer are two different words, right? I said the forced transfer 7000 Palestinians out of the Occupied Territories to Israel is in violation of the Geneva Convention.


This is the Geneva Convention verbatim:

Palestinians out of the occupied territories:

"Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian
population from occupied territory.

No exceptions are listed for incarceration.
 

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I'm a bit of a bystander but I can't help but notice that you ignore the herd of elephants in the room. How does a military occupation help peace?
By containing and limiting Palestinian terrorism and aggression, which is the root cause of the conflict.
 

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Who said incarceration in the Occupied Territories is transfer? Incarceration and transfer are two different words, right? I said the forced transfer 7000 Palestinians out of the Occupied Territories to Israel is in violation of the Geneva Convention.


This is the Geneva Convention verbatim:

Palestinians out of the occupied territories:

"Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian
population from occupied territory.

No exceptions are listed for incarceration.
Your PERSONAL AND UNINFORMED NON EXPERT OPINION that incarcerating people in Israeli prisons is population transfer is not just wrong but stupidly wrong.

Repeating YOUR OPINION again, spamming YOUR OPINION, won't help.

Please cite a court case where incarcerating prisoners in a prison outside the occupied territory is considered population transfer. I don't believe you.
 

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By containing and limiting Palestinian terrorism and aggression, which is the root cause of the conflict.
Are you not the person who said on this board that despots always say that terrible things will happen if their iron fisted rule is removed?
 

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Your PERSONAL AND UNINFORMED NON EXPERT OPINION that incarcerating people in Israeli prisons is population transfer is not just wrong but stupidly wrong.

Repeating YOUR OPINION again, spamming YOUR OPINION, won't help.

Please cite a court case where incarcerating prisoners in a prison outside the occupied territory is considered population transfer. I don't believe you.
Israeli war crime:

"Protected persons accused of offences shall be detained in the occupied country, and if convicted they shall serve their sentences therein. They shall, if possible, be separated from other detainees and shall enjoy conditions of food and hygiene which will be sufficient to keep them in good health, and which will be at least equal to those obtaining in prisons in the occupied country."

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/appl...t&documentId=076982CDB0849904C12563CD0051BFFD
 

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If they were their legal homes, you might have a case.
But when those 'security guards' are defending illegal squatter sites for people who are not citizens, on squats ruled illegal by the UN, and those squatter security guards are in fact paid for and armed by the occupying army, they are no longer acting as civilians. They are armed militia.

Not civilians......
Not according to B'Tselem

The illegality of the settlements has no effect at all on the status of their civilian residents.

http://www.btselem.org/israeli_civilians

Just one more case where you support attacks on Jewish civilians. Fucking disgusting.





p.s. your writing style is becoming more and more Trump-like
 

basketcase

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Here's a test for you.
Armed settlers attacked a Palestinian village and were stopped by the villagers.
Are they then:
...
Yes, they are terrorists. Simple enough? But Palestinians attacking settlers because other settlers attacked them is inexcusable terrorism as well. You continue to act that settlers are valid targets but that is just your hatred and immorality talking.
 

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Israeli war crime:...
It's amazing that you spend so much effort trying to defend people convicted of violence but couldn't be bothered commenting on the violent acts that got them arrested and which are a major impediment to peace.
 

Frankfooter

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Not according to B'Tselem

The illegality of the settlements has no effect at all on the status of their civilian residents.

http://www.btselem.org/israeli_civilians

Just one more case where you support attacks on Jewish civilians. Fucking disgusting.
I agree with that B'teselem statement.

However we are talking about settlers who are not acting as civilians, but are armed and paid by the IDF to protect those illegal squats.
Those are not civilians.
 
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