Uh huh.
Imagine our economy without cars.
No roads, no construction, no automotive manufacturing, no related industries.
Pretty much the entire Canadian economy.
Yep, good idea you have there.
Road Tolls Announced DVP GARDINER
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Imagine our economy without cars.
No roads, no construction, no automotive manufacturing, no related industries.
Pretty much the entire Canadian economy.
Yep, good idea you have there.
Correct, it will be very expensive to install a 407 styled tracking system. Never mind the cost of operating it.
BUT, as fuji has correctly pointed out, it will bring in a lot of money from the 905 region (and other outlying burbs) who currently use the Gardiner and DVP and yet pay nothing for it.
If Tory had any balls, he would say it costs double for non 416 residents.
The City will lose a lot of revenue. Privately owned parking lots deal in a lot of cash.
And guess what many businesses do when they collect a lot of cash??
HINT: it involves "creative accounting"
That was a good idea in the 90s and maybe should have been done. But it's short sighted now.
We are on the cusp of the self driving revolution, and it's going to disrupt everything you think about the way transit should work.
Many cars won't ever park.
Many people won't ever own a car.
The transit system is soon going to be able to take your point to point. Costs of public transit are about to go way down as drivers salaries are eliminated from the equation. No doubt a huge union fight looming there.
Taxi industry vs Uber so far is just a mild foreshadowing of the coming storm: when Uber eliminates drivers, when the TTC does.
A lot of people are going to abandon the subway and GO train system in favor of a shuttle that picks them up at their home and drops them at their work and then drives off to get somebody else.
Seems like a long way in the future but transit system plans are supposed to be about the next twenty years and in that timeframe it will happen.
The Mayor of Toronto is expected to want to attract people to come to Toronto and spend money, not to discourage people from doing so.
How would they lose cash? You are charging a flat fee for parking spots. Most spots are either free as in strips malls etc, or charged like hotels and office towers. Some have paid open air.
Charge X amount per spot, two tiered flat yearly rate. On the property tax. No fuss. And on extra infrastructure. Done.
What happens if I own a parking lot thats only half full most of the time??
Am I still getting charged per spot even though most of the time no cars are parked there??
I think the biggest hurdle is having enough available cars that you can call one up and have it at your door within 10 to 15 minutes. I don't think anyone living out in the suburbs would wait over an hour for a ride to do their daily tasks especially when the weather is lousy.
No, if you bothered to read the link I posted previously, you would note that the annual capital budget is a fraction (about a fifth) of the Operating budget.
Splitting the budget into Operating and Capital is a joke. It should all be just one budget. In case you didn't know, the City of Toronto is forbidden by law to run a deficit to finance its OPERATING budget, but IS permitted to deficit finance its capital works budget. So all they are doing is playing accounting games by shifting sufficient money to ensure that their Operating budget is covered and then deficit financing the Capital budget. FYI, contractors, consultants, etc etc. are all paid from the Capital Works budget.
What would be very impressive if the City passed a law that stated that the ENTIRE budget has to be balanced every year. (Not that that will ever happen.)
What would also be really impressive is if the council could demand that the cops and the TTC take a 10 percent cut on their operating budget without affecting service. It's entirely possible, but it goes against the long tradition of empire building at the City of Toronto.
Why should people in Muskoka pay for roads that are clogged with 416er's during the summer season?
Because there is a benefit for the local community.
Those 905er's are supporting the local Toronto community. Would you rather have most of the downtown businesses relocate to Mississauga, Brampton, Hamilton, etc. and Toronto lose out on that revenue cash cow?
Imagine all those temples downtown are empty and the underground malls are sparse.
Toronto, in its arrogance wants to bite the hand that feeds them.
Another thing to consider is how will technology come into play a decade or two decades from now?
Aside from those few workplaces that require a physical presence (and they are dwindling each year), chances are many of today's workers will be able to work from home or in remote locations thus avoiding this mass exodus in and out of the core each day. Millennials will play a key role in how the future will unfold, how things operate today will be drastically different when they are in control.
Unfortunately Toronto municipal politicians have been at least 20 years behind in turning plans into action. The gridlock and transit issues they face today should have been managed decades ago, but politics got in the way.
Too bad the people of Toronto never had the balls to stand up to their elected leaders. They have been played for decades on end by their elected "leaders" and partisan politics has been the key weapon used against them.
Road tolls? They are nothing but a band-aid solution to the city's current perceived financial woes. Toronto will have bigger problems to face inside of twenty years, mainly the fact that it will no longer be needed by the new generation.
Aside from those few workplaces that require a physical presence (and they are dwindling each year), chances are many of today's workers will be able to work from home or in remote locations thus avoiding this mass exodus in and out of the core each day. Millennials will play a key role in how the future will unfold, how things operate today will be drastically different when they are in control.
Unfortunately Toronto municipal politicians have been at least 20 years behind in turning plans into action. The gridlock and transit issues they face today should have been managed decades ago, but politics got in the way.
Too bad the people of Toronto never had the balls to stand up to their elected leaders. They have been played for decades on end by their elected "leaders" and partisan politics has been the key weapon used against them.
Road tolls? They are nothing but a band-aid solution to the city's current perceived financial woes. Toronto will have bigger problems to face inside of twenty years, mainly the fact that it will no longer be needed by the new generation.
Toronto has for decades been too congested. I personally had to decide where to locate 3 new (medium size) businesses, and I chose Mississauga for all of them. Employees could come from the country, from Toronto (against the traffic) and from the western suburbs. Many prospective employees would not travel to Toronto.
The solution is better public transit, not more barriers to travel.
I believe that more people will choose to relocate their companies as the new generation is not into the whole 1-2 hour trek to an office. Many companies will be forced to either relocate or implement telecommunications in the not too distant future.
In reality, employers will need to take their business to where the human resources are, not the old way as has been done in the past.
