Blue Jays: 2016 Edition

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You have to hand it to Alex Anthopoulos for getting Devon Travis for some guy who's floundering in double A right now and also for picking up Marco Estrada for not much more than a dirt sandwich.
It's too bad he couldn't work with Shapiro because I think those 2 would have worked out really well together.
Let's not forget Donaldson for Lawrie.
 

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Has Shapiro or Gibby said this for sure?? Got a link for that??
Well, for one this baseball writer at ESPN seems to think they are angling to cap him at 185 innings to they end of the season and then get him one start for every series they are in in the playoffs.


http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/...rsday-jays-make-right-move-with-aaron-sanchez


Shapiro and Atkins have smartly kept very quiet about their plans for Sanchez since anything they say about Sanchez causes an enormous flood of expert opinion from all the Sparky Andersons out there.
Best to be as quiet as possible and see how things work out.
To me the best move is to do all they can to keep him in the rotation and tell the media nothing.
 

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Let's not forget Donaldson for Lawrie.
Yea, that trade has worked out pretty well since the prospects the A's got haven't really done anything significant at the MLB level yet.

I pretend in my mind that the Syndergaard and Donaldson trades were one big trade all morphed into one and in the end it was Donaldson for Syndergaard
and all the other guys in the deal are just guys of varying ability; but certainly not impact superstars by any means.
 

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gcostanza

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Not Blue Jays news, but Alex Rodriguez & the New York Yankees
have scheduled a press conference for 11 a.m. Sunday.
 

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There is usually better pitching in the post-season (better staffs and smaller rotations), meaning it wouldn't hurt the Jays to learn how to win more of the low scoring squeakers because the big scores do not happen nearly as easily.
This means they need to start playing better small ball but that's not Gibby's style.


No Cola. Also this year's Bautista is a weak shadow of the 2015 Bautista and this alone is HUGE!
First we waited for Tulo then JB to come back from injuries to get back to full strength but offence seems to be what it is. Above avg but not great.

Too many SO, Upton and Smoak are bad, Martin and Pillar are also not good but the team leader is Saunders.
 
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Looks like the end of the line for A Rod.
Should Alex retire, he's leaving about $27,740,000 on the table.
If the Yankees release him, he still gets paid.
 

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Jays have now hit 16 solos home runs in a row.

These Royals nickel and dime you to death. They scored 4 runs so far without a home run.
 

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Looks like the end of the line for A Rod.
4 home runs shy of 700 (yes, I Googled it). Barry Bonds record will stand for a long long time. HOF next?

Damn! Jays lost. Royals scored 4 runs on a bunch of cheapie hits. Why can't we get cheapie hits?

Edit: If A-Rod retires, Albert Pujol will be the active HR leader. He might even catch A-Rod in 3-4-5 years if he plays that long.
 
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ultistar

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Sanchez gave up 4 runs! Throw da bum in the bullpen! :)

I'm liking Barnes, composed pitching with men on base.

NO offence again. I think Gibby must read my advice cuz it happens a few games later, so:

Don't start Smoak and Upton in the same game. Pillar got to 2B w no outs twice and they both struck out. Rallies get killed with those guys back to back.
 

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It was fine in the end, but I agree with you. When that happened last night, I expected the worse. I thought JD would have a shattered face, and blood everywhere.

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I've seen that replay numerous times today and can't get over how scary. It did catch his earflap but also got a lot of his face, a bit puffy today. In hindsight, even the few second he was down, he was squirming/writhing in pain but not unconscious which was a good sign.

If he was knocked out with blood streaming from face, who knows how bad it could have been. That pitcher was throwing 99mph.
 

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Jays have now hit 16 solos home runs in a row.
The 2011 San Francisco Giants hold the MLB record for solo home runs in a row with 21.
 

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It's too bad Sanchez is in his seventh year pitching for the Blue Jays organization and he's still on innings limits because of microscopically tiny increments they allowed him every year in his development.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/john-smoltz-doesnt-like-blue-jays-handling-aaron-sanchez/

This was a few days back before the change in decision, but John Smoltz raises a good point. If they truly had an IP limit, then start him in the bullpen and then move him into the rotation later in the year so he can continue into the stretch run and playoffs. The flip-flopping back and forth is the most dangerous.
Smoltz is a good commentator and of course knows a little something about pitching as a HOF'r.


The bullpen is coming together really nicely right now.
I really like this Danny Barnes. He's brilliant at getting out left handers and is a big upgrade on Loup who had that job last year.
I also have high hopes for Barnes. The bullpen has been good of late, but not sure we have the shutdown guys in high leverage situations YET. Looking at our bullpen: Osuna, Cecil, Grilli, Benoit, Barnes, Biagni, Feldman (mop-up guy).

Osuna is our only true high leverage guy; as Buck/Pat say, even if it's the 8th inning with man on bases with heart of the order up, Gibby should bring in Osuna. Let's another guy handle the 9th against the weaker bottom of the order.

Cecil is rounding into form and looking great against lefties. But still a L/L specialist.

Grilli has been great, but still have some doubts in truly H/L situ. I see Grilli and Benoit as this year's Lowe and Hawkins. Very good, but do you bring them in with the season on the line.

Which leaves Barnes and Biagini. We had Osuna in 2015 and Henke in 1989 come out of nowhere to give us the extra jolt. I think one of these guys have to go on a hot streak, and pitch out of their mind for us to get far in the playoffs.


You have to hand it to Alex Anthopoulos for getting Devon Travis for some guy who's floundering in double A right now and also for picking up Marco Estrada for not much more than a dirt sandwich.
It's too bad he couldn't work with Shapiro because I think those 2 would have worked out really well together.
AA was fearless, he traded Marco for Adam Lind who had a decent year (against righties), but yeh we fleeced both deals. But give credit to Shapiro for re-signing Marco who was a FA and avail to all teams.
 

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But give credit to Shapiro for re-signing Marco who was a FA and avail to all teams.
True, but other teams weren't prepared to give up it's 1st Round Pick as signing compensation and give him at least $15.8 mil a year (minimum qualifying amount) based on one solid season of work.

Happ was the real gem of a signing (3/$36).
 

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True, but other teams weren't prepared to give up it's 1st Round Pick as signing compensation and give him at least $15.8 mil a year (minimum qualifying amount) based on one solid season of work.

Happ was the real gem of a signing (3/$36).

Very true. And that Qualifying Offer is going upto $16.7 this year. Gives us some hope for re-signing some of our numerous FA's
 

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Should Alex retire, he's leaving about $27,740,000 on the table.
If the Yankees release him, he still gets paid.
Yankees announce they will allow A Rod to play one more game next Friday against the Rays and they will then release him, he will then join the front office as a special adviser.
 

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4 home runs shy of 700 (yes, I Googled it). Barry Bonds record will stand for a long long time. HOF next?

Damn! Jays lost. Royals scored 4 runs on a bunch of cheapie hits. Why can't we get cheapie hits?

Edit: If A-Rod retires, Albert Pujol will be the active HR leader. He might even catch A-Rod in 3-4-5 years if he plays that long.
Albert should pass A Rod in all categories except stolen bases as long as he stays healthy and reasonably productive he still has 5 more years left on his contract after this season.
 

Perry Mason

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As of right now, I think the BJ's have all the talent they need.

Now it is a question of what percentage of the guys can perform the rest of the way at the level of their talent... not more, not less.

And it seems to me that the team that wins the WS is nearly always the team that gets a super hot performance from one or two of their regulars down the stretch. And the BJ's have several candidates for this role, too.

It's shaping up to be another wild ride from here on... and I think it will be impossible to predict because there are too many other very talented teams!

Which also means that baseball has done a pretty good job of spreading the talent around... not like the old days when 3 or 4 teams like the Yankees would dominate.

Perry
 
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