If I remember correctly, it was Shapiro / Atkins who signed Estrada to an extension, and signed Happ as a free agent. Without those two pitchers I expect that the Jays would be battling Tampa for last place in the division.
Blue Jays: 2016 Edition
- Thread starter Perry Mason
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Barry Davis has become the BaBa Booey of the Toronto Blue Jays. Jackie looking lovely as ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1LqAHmfC6g
TOFTT from Boom Bats:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljSINZ2UcRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1LqAHmfC6g
TOFTT from Boom Bats:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljSINZ2UcRc
Kevin Pillar is a major league centrefielder - all of whom would catch almost all of the balls he catches..but yes there have been a few remarkable catches. He is a decent hitter sometimes, but way too often shows a lack of discipline and thought - particularly in late inning situations - I wish he would deal with his batting issues more than rushing to every mike he sees. My point is that he is slightly overrated and he isn't as good as he thinks he is.
And were strongly criticised at the time. So they must be feeling good the way things turned out.
I'll give them credit for Happ.
AA got Marco and signing him after the great year he had last year was a no brainer. There was a bit of questioning about whether last year was fluke or not, not much criticism for this one.
Sanchez to stay a starter
Evidently the Jays are going with a 6 man rotation. It sounds reasonable.
Their concern of overworking Sanchez is lessened.
Estrada's back could use some extra rest.
The starters as a group have been very reliable and healthy. This way if one goes down they still have a 5 man rotation without having to move someone in.
Evidently the Jays are going with a 6 man rotation. It sounds reasonable.
Their concern of overworking Sanchez is lessened.
Estrada's back could use some extra rest.
The starters as a group have been very reliable and healthy. This way if one goes down they still have a 5 man rotation without having to move someone in.
Some interesting reading on this and other moves:
http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2016/...e-of-the-job-mark-shapiro-and-ross-atkins-are
means 8 more starts for everyone
they will monitor Sanchez for tired arm IE release point etc
management has listened to the players
Sanchez was smart to keep his mouth shut in public but did not want to go to pen
Liriano agrees to go along with management
I would think two starters go to pen in playoffs
Liriano and ??????
No way it is Dickey as he gives up too many homers
Both Sanchez and Estrada have pen experience but Jays need a left hander so that is Happ
Will be interesting call if nothing else happens
Kudos to management for listening to players
need to keep players involved and happy in the dugout
Just as I predicted in May.
They couldn't very well pull the ERA leader from the rotation and put our 2016 playoff hopes at risk so this was one way to save face.
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Just as I predicted in May.
They couldn't very well pull the ERA leader from the rotation and put our 2017 playoff hopes at risk so this was one way to save face.
take a bow
I was thinking same thing about bringing Hutch up but management feels better with Liriano
Seems obvious move but caught everyone by surprise for some reason
At the beginning of the season management had no idea Sanchez was going to be the best starter in baseball so they had to rethink their decision
If Jays blow too many leads because of bullpen then WTF happens ?
WTF happens if starters do not do well on so much rest ?
Extra days rest can screw up a starter's rhythm as pointed out by Gregg Zaun, everyone but Sanchez have put up mediocre numbers on 5 days rest.
The starters have been very good as a group and all but Dickey were on pace for career highs in IP. We would have to be lottery lucky to think that none of them could not get injured the rest of the season.
Happ looks like he's dealing again.
Gotta say, this Sanchez situation has been a fiasco created by Shapiro/Atkins.
Happ looks like he's dealing again.
Gotta say, this Sanchez situation has been a fiasco created by Shapiro/Atkins.
For a solid defensive player, with some power & speed.
The Blue Jays aren't paying him much next year, San Diego's looking after that.
If you can't make contact, power doesn't mean diddly, which basically means he is a late inning replacement. Forgot, San Diego about San Diego paying salaries just to unload losers. From his performance to date, anything the Jays pay him is too much.
So a player with a higher career OBP than Michael Saunders and a WAR this year of 1.8 which is worth a salary of approx. $15mln to baseball types is actually worthless. Interesting take.
You do realize he's had pretty much a carbon copy of a start
to his Blue Jays career as Ben Revere did last season?
That turned out okay, didn't it?
Upton is a much better player than Revere is/was.
You are right Upton was a good player. Revere was 27 when he came here, Upton will be 32 this month. While the Revere trade was good for the Jays last year, have you seen his numbers this year? Upton has been, at best, mediocre since he left Tampa Bay. So far he has shown nothing offensively since his arrival. Hope you are right but I think this guys glory days are long gone!
