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Canada Post strike looms

SkyRider

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You can have a parcel delivered to a post office near your work or anywhere in Canada, pick it up there and bring it home.
It's called Flex Delivery.
Thanks. Good to know. Some of us don't live in condos with a concierge. Anyways, Canada Post leaves a card and I pick up the item the next day at my local station.
 

thirdcup

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Are they still called mailmen or the mailman, surprised that hasn't gone gender neutral yet, or has it?
I think the correct term is letter carrier.
 

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Who mails shit anymore.....
I mail birthday cards, sympathy notes, etc. Sending emails for such occasions just does not cut it for me.
As for the strike, fuck'em. The private sector will fill in the void in no time.
 

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Another service that is going to be extinct. Amazon and other mail order companies will simply find other sources for delivery.

Personally I wouldn't care if service was cut back as I only check the mailbox once a week anyways.

Canada Post is a perfect example of a typical government service that can be sourced out and administered in a more realistic wage earning environment.

Hopefully they go on strike...They will quickly learn how unimportant and unessential they are.
Eventually the mail carriers will be replaced by robotics. Mail and parcel delivery is a fantastic application for a self driving car. If that flying drone program doesn't automate delivery, it can be done on the road. Delivery to community mailboxes designed to be fillable by a robot. Automated delivery van that can back up to the mailbox and file deliveries into the correct slots.

You could get twice daily delivery at less cost than once a week with a human carrier.
 

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Another service that is going to be extinct. Amazon and other mail order companies will simply find other sources for delivery.

Personally I wouldn't care if service was cut back as I only check the mailbox once a week anyways.

Canada Post is a perfect example of a typical government service that can be sourced out and administered in a more realistic wage earning environment.

Hopefully they go on strike...They will quickly learn how unimportant and unessential they are.
Sorry, but you sound like one of those 'right wing' corporate bastards that would like to keep wages low and offer few if any benefits to your workers while you reap maximum profits.
 

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Those of us that believe in reducing the wage gap and the growing social inequality which has grown immensely in this country according to statistics over the past twenty years!
 

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Those of us that believe in reducing the wage gap and the growing social inequality which has grown immensely in this country according to statistics over the past twenty years!
Doesn't seem like overpaying for mail delivery will make you any better off.
 

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Eventually the mail carriers will be replaced by robotics. Mail and parcel delivery is a fantastic application for a self driving car. If that flying drone program doesn't automate delivery, it can be done on the road. Delivery to community mailboxes designed to be fillable by a robot. Automated delivery van that can back up to the mailbox and file deliveries into the correct slots.

You could get twice daily delivery at less cost than once a week with a human carrier.
I feel that you are being overly optimistic on the state of robotics with respect to self-driving cars. See the Scientific American article (unfortunately behind a pay wall).

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-self-driving-cars-will-really-look-like/
 

SkyRider

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Doesn't seem like overpaying for mail delivery will make you any better off.
Here is the theory. Overpaying postal workers means they have more money to spend so good for the economy.

The only problem is the money to overpay them comes out of your pocket so you have less to spend, bad for the economy.
 

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Sorry, but you sound like one of those 'right wing' corporate bastards that would like to keep wages low and offer few if any benefits to your workers while you reap maximum profits.
No need to apologize. However you sound like a left wing kook that wants everything handed to them just because you are in a union.
 

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The future of letter mail is definitely on the down side but parcel delivery is way up. My cousin is a postie so I follow this stuff a little more. Canada Post is a crown corporation and as almost always posted profits that go to the government all this info is online. Last contract posties lost there sick days plus new employees start at 18$ per hour. In two years minimum wage will be 15$ so it will closer to minimum. This time the company wants to eliminate the pension plan. Last thing I do not know this for sure but he told me the union expects to be locked out in July as this is a good time for the company because volumes down in summer.
 

saxon

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The union is being quite unrealistic in some of their demands, a few of them include raises above the rate of inflation, a total stop of all outside contracted work and restoring all homes across the country to door to door delivery.
 

Ceiling Cat

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It seems to me that the postal workers are taking a big chance, what if they go on strike and it makes no great difference to the public. Many people that are waiting for their checks will go to direct deposit.
 

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It seems to me that the postal workers are taking a big chance, what if they go on strike and it makes no great difference to the public. Many people that are waiting for their checks will go to direct deposit.
They will strike themselves from the employment roles.
A long strike will destroy their model of delivery pushing the public to shift their habits once and for all.
Think about all the junk mail you will not have to throw out.
RIP Canada Post
 

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Doesn't seem like overpaying for mail delivery will make you any better off.
Is it overpaying if they make a profit and perform a service, pay taxes, buy houses and send their kids to college??
 

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I feel that you are being overly optimistic on the state of robotics with respect to self-driving cars. See the Scientific American article (unfortunately behind a pay wall).

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-self-driving-cars-will-really-look-like/
Well I think you can debate WHEN self driving cars will be able to replace mailmen, but I don't think you can debate if. Whether it takes ten years or fifty years, sooner or later they will be good enough to deliver the mail, drive trucks on the highway, drive buses, and provide taxi service.

A city bus for example can stay on a predefined route on pavement and never turn left, for example. Similarly, a transport truck could drive across the country on the interstate system and end its trip at a special lot connected to the highway. A taxi service could ferry you around only in the downtown core and let human drivers take you if you leave that zone . A mail delivery van could follow a predefined route and deliver mail to community mailboxes, all without leaving the pavement and if necessary without turning left if that's still a requirement.

Note that these are applications that can stay on paved roads. The rural bus driver and mailman may survive a little longer than their city brethren.
 
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