I was just going to post this, as my brother works as a vet in South Africa and travels all around for emergencies and training. What they did in Cincinnati was wrong and they were clueless as to what they were doing. Had they no remembered the case in 1996 of the Gorilla that saved the life of child that fell into a pen? http://abcnews.go.com/US/gorilla-carries-year-boy-safety-fell-enclosure-1996/story?id=39479586
Endangered Gorilla shot to protect young boy
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If only they had the years of experience with gorillas and the degree in primatology that you d... what's that? Oh.
How many times did koko meet robin williams? If just this one occasion, I think a story about her being crushed and not eating for days may be a fabrication or the result of human manipulation.
I don't think one can place any blame on the child. Children don't understand the dangers that certain behavior. Few children would survive in a "natural setting" and they would only do so from sheer luck.
im personally not opposed to zoos. I enjoyed them as a kid and if I had children I'd take them to the zoo. Nothing quite like seeing wild animals up close. Animals exist to feed us, entertain us (this includes companionship pets like dogs), sometimes kills us.
In this world there are 2 kinds of people. Those who respect animals (animal people) and those who don't.
You are the latter.
I'd bet that growing up you never had a dog or a cat in the house. Your parents would not permit it because they said animals very dirty vermin that weren't supposed to be part of a household. Animals were just soulless creatures put on this earth as food for you and your ilk. Since you've never experienced the love of an animal you can't fathom that they have every emotion that you and I have and they are quite capable of rational thought. They know right from wrong. Ask anyone who has ever owned a dog.
I on the other hand am an animal person and I respect all creatures great and small. If given the choice to associate with animal people or non animal people, I will choose to associate with animal people. If someone tells me "I don't like animals". I will feel an automatic sense of being repelled. I view such people as without a sense of morality that I'd rather not know. There have been numerous threads on TERB over the years about posters who have lost a pet. Maybe they had to put down their dog or cat, or the animal died. The emotions in those threads are usually palpable and are something that people who have had pets in their lives can relate to and other posters will post their sympathies and their own stories of similar loss because we want that poster to know that we know how hard it is to lose a cherished pet and that they are not alone in their loss. Animals, whether you understand it or not indeed become part of the family.
I've noted that you sir never offer any condolences. Probably because you simply can't relate to people who care for anything or anyone other than themselves. In fact, in thinking about your posts over the years, other than your repeated mentioning of your wife (who you continually boast about cheating on and that if you ever found out she was doing the same, you would end your marriage), I can't recall you ever sharing any warm thoughts ever about another person in this world. and certainly not about any pet that you may have ever had.
I pity you.
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Experience.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/gorilla-trying-kill-protect-boy-8087981
Dr Emily Bethell, a senior lecturer in Primate Behaviour at Liverpool John Moores University, revealed that the gorilla’s body language showed he was NOT threatening the child.
She gave a commentary over the video which you can see above.
Dr Bethell said: “He was clearly being protective towards the boy.
“There were no signs of the gorilla being aggressive in the sense that he wanted to hurt the boy or anything like that.
“The biggest threat to the boy I would say is obviously when the gorilla moved and dragged him, that could have caused some harm, but the gorilla’s body language is definitely protective.”
http://www.bustle.com/articles/1638...ncinnati-zoo-tragedy-their-opinions-are-mixed
Ian Redmond, chairman of The Gorilla Organization, said that there were other alternatives in addition to tranquilizing that the handlers could have tried:
When gorilla or other apes have things they shouldn't have, keepers will negotiate with them, bring food, their favorite treats, pineapple, or some kind of fruit that they don't know and negotiate with them. I don't know if that was tried or people thought there was too much danger but it does seem very unfortunate that a lethal shot was required.
Would I be in error to assume that you don't eat steak, burgers or meat of any kind ?
That's the most idiotic statement in the history of the world. A complete red herring as a lawyer would tell you.
noooooooooo fuji lol you are terrible!
I can't believe you can even compare a living breathing animal to a man made machine. You were raised all wrong like some kind of robot that
was programed without compassion and respect for life. Im beginning to think you are
an android like Data in star trek. lol
I mean that in the nicest way though haha.
Yes, for some reason they are showing a baby orangutan in the pic but the video is about gorillas.
I agree we don't know how the boy ended up in the cage. All it takes is to see him safe and sound beside you one second and the next second reaching into your purse to take a picture of the gorilla only to look up and see your kid falling into the exibit. Or the boy could've been told not to stand so close but didn't listen. Again we don't know what really happened for him to end up in there. The point is that he was in there and those officials didn't sit there wondering how the kid got in. They saw a dangerous situation and took care of it before the situation even had the opportunity to turn deadly. If you have seen the actual footage you will see the boy trying to escape and the gorilla clearly dragging him back and then man handling him. If you run from a gorilla instead of standing your ground they will charge after you. The kid was only 4 and a 4 year olds first instinct when it is scared of a wild animal is to run. Im sure the officials didn't want to lose an animal, especially one that is endangered but they did what they had to do to keep the boy safe. We'd all be lying to ourselves if we said accidents never happened to us.
Now that I read this I agree that a tranquilizer should probably have been the first choice. Save the child and the animal. As much as the animal was the dangerous part of the situation it still didn't necessarily deserve to die.
The man in the video said that they train for this sort of thing. Which means those officials were trained to use guns instead of a tranquilizer. With either method, the gorilla needed to be dealt with quickly and efficiently.
Do you or don't you? Do you wear leather? Do you live in civilization? It's easy to have weird ideas of animals when you're so far detached from the reality. A lot of self proclaimed "animal lovers" are full of shit.
No disrespect ma'am, but have you ever seen how long it takes to tranquilize a very large animal? I've seen it once done by DNR personnel for a black bear. It's not like in the movies where the animal just falls down. And with the gorilla in such close proximity to the child, who might receive seriously injury if the animal reacts violently because a group of humans shot it with a large tranquilizer gun.
The following video should given you an idea how long it took for a chimpanzee, a much smaller animal (horrible though how it was done by zookeepers).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5-Fy4ULdPg
I believe several sources have confirmed that it simply takes too long to tranquilize a large animal to ensure the boy's safety.
Your inability to follow a logical train of thought doesn't immediately condemn the entire legal system to similar irrational thinking. Actually the law follows logic (as any lawyer will tell you) so when you make a statement granting part of the animal kingdom as one of " God's magnificent and beautiful creatures that shouldn't be destroyed by man " it is completely a fair and logical in determining what specific animals are on your God's magnificent and beautiful creatures list.
My question was a quite simple attempt to determine if cows are on your list. The emotional response from you probably confirms fact that cows are not magnificent nor beautiful to such a degree that we can butcher them in massive numbers and feast on their flesh.
BTW: cunning linguist's follow up regarding leather shoes is just as valid. A surprising amount of vegans lecture on the barbarism of killing animals for food but have no problem wearing carcasses on their feet.
No, it was an idiotic comparison.
In fact, it was a fucking stupid idiotic comparison.
Eating of meet does not give one the right to kill a creature at will just because some other poor creature was killed in the name of being part of the food chain.
Don't believe me?
Head up to Algonquin Park and blast a Moose out of season and without a tag and see what happens to you. When you get arrested, be sure to tell the police that you eat meat.
Your argument is childish at best.
I find the mob mentality even more sad than the shooting. The mother is being mercilessly targeted with hate mail attacks and even a person that has the unfortunate distinction of having the same name is getting targeted too. These days it's important to write smart ass one-liners and comments on social media instead of reading and understand the situation. Beside, we weren't there so how can we really know what happened? The people are more threatening than the animal IMO.
